Western political decay makes China’s path stand out

[TaiShang]

Western political decay makes China’s path stand out

By Zhang Shuhua, Source: Globaltimes.cn, Published: 2017/2/1

The international community went through the restless year of 2016 in surprise and panic with populism, exclusivism and utilitarianism spreading rampantly. Unlike China and Russia, which emphasize authority of the government, the weakening and even the decline of political clout of Western countries have been apparent.

This sparked a new round of discussion and reflection on democracy and political development. In fact, since the end of World War II, democracy has been the focus of debates in international politics, as well as a weapon and tool of Western countries against other nations.

The disintegration of the Soviet Union and Eastern European countries 25 years ago was partly due to the influence of ideas such as "democracy, freedom and human rights" from the West. However, the Western countries now are mired in "populism and contentious politics" themselves.

The Western political status quo and the complicated and changing world order made China's unique political path stand out.

After the Cold War ended more than 20 years ago, China did not follow the same old disastrous road of the Soviet Union, but, instead, realized economic development and national rejuvenation under the leadership of the Communist Party of China, and maintained the momentum of reform, development and stability.

After the global financial crisis, while the Western economic systems and social governance models ran into trouble, China's was outstanding in dealing with the challenges of the economic recession.

The cornerstone of China's miracle lies in the mutual promotion of political and economic systems. Unlike the polarized mindsets of "democracy/autocracy" and "West/non-West" that some scholars in Western countries continue to be confined to, China's comprehensive and pragmatic political development provides an alternative to the current trend in the international community.

Nowadays, the concept of "democracy", monopolized by the West, has been abused in international political ideologies and practices. Over the years, the US-led Western coalition has never relented in dividing and disintegrating China under the name of "democratization." They make prescriptions of "freedom, democracy and human rights" every now and then by the Western standards, and hope China will follow it accordingly.

Facing the risks and challenges both at home and abroad, particularly Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan and Hong Kong separatists and democratic activists, we must maintain our political composure, and stick to a comprehensive outlook of political development in discourse and theory construction.

The characteristics and advantages of the modern Chinese political development consist of stability, developmental nature, consistency, coordination and inclusiveness.

Stability is embodied in stable political order, orderly political participation, simultaneous implementation of the rule of law and democracy, and effective national governance capabilities.

To advocate "inclusiveness" means we do not object to democracy in a general sense. Instead, the progress of democracy is driven by the concept of comprehensive political development. We resolve social problems and provide political guarantee for the economy through political development.

Compared with the single concept of democracy, political development has a richer and broader connotation. Democracy is an important concept in political development. However, in contemporary China, development of democracy must be pushed forward within the framework of comprehensive political development.

Political development consists of three groups of interdependent and interactive variables and values: democracy (including justice, rights and freedom), rule of law (including stability, rules, and orders), and efficiency (including performance, responsibilities and transparent governance). The ideal political development requires a balance and coordination of all the values.

Unlike some countries which push forward democratization lopsidedly, the process of China's political reform and development takes on a unique comprehensive coordination, progressive developmental nature, and conforms to local conditions.

Comprehensive coordination not only requires an organic unification of values of political development, such as democracy, order and efficiency, but also requires political development to be conducive to economic development and social progress. The progressive developmental nature emphasizes that political development is a vigorous and multifaceted process. It is also stressed that we should take our own path in political reform and democratization based on the circumstances of our country.

In practice, we should improve the overall leadership of the Communist Party of China and the national governance capabilities based on comprehensive political development, in order to fully improve our political development capabilities and international political competitiveness.

The author is director of the Institute of Information Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

 

[ahojunk]

Political development consists of three groups of interdependent and interactive variables and values: democracy (including justice, rights and freedom), rule of law (including stability, rules, and orders), and efficiency (including performance, responsibilities and transparent governance). The ideal political development requires a balance and coordination of all the values.

For many third world countries, the idea of democracy is just the ability to vote. Doesn't matter whether you understand the policies or not, or who you are voting for, just the ability to vote.

Without a balanced development of democracy with "rule of law" and "efficiency", the political system is not functional. Third world countries are open to new ways of control, manipulation and domination by more advanced countries. The new way is subversion, infiltration, color revolution or military invasion. The prerequisite for all these is democracy, which incidentally is the deadliest export.

https://williamblum.org/books/americas-deadliest-export

Don't believe me, look at the before and after pictures.

Interesting enough, when promoting democracy, there is no focus on efficiency (including performance, responsibilities and transparent governance).

With the new system of hegemony, you don't have to control the land, just control the people, the oil and the money.

As a reminder, Hitler was democratically elected by the Germans.

For countries whose social and political systems are not well developed, elections bring chaos not stability.

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This is the view of a lecturer from the University of Melbourne, Australia. I agree with him 100%.
This 2.5 minute video is worth watching.

China doesn't want an "outdated" Western democracy

The University of Melbourne
Published on 7 Dec 2013

China won't adopt a Western- style democracy because Western-style democracies are no longer 'fit for purpose' for the 21st century, argues University of Melbourne academic Mark Triffitt.


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Unfortunately, China is not interested in exporting its political system. The Chinese don't think it will work elsewhere. Lastly, the "Communist Party" is no longer communist, they are more capitalist than any other country. Their political system is constantly evolving. The CCP today is very different to the CCP in 1949.

There is a saying:-
In America you can change the party, but you cannot change the policies.
In China, you cannot change the party but you can change the policies.

 

[Nan Yang]

Western electoral democracy has reached its level of incompetence

 

[TaiShang]

Interesting enough, when promoting democracy, there is no focus on efficiency (including performance, responsibilities and transparent governance).

With the new system of hegemony, you don't have to control the land, just control the people, the oil and the money.

As a reminder, Hitler was democratically elected by the Germans.

For countries whose social and political systems are not well developed, elections bring chaos not stability.

While the US is running a pragmatist democracy at home, it is promoting, exporting emotional democracy. Hence, the contradictions that developing world democracies are lack of performance, responsibility, and efficiency.

China's success is, in my view, its ability to bring together theory and practice; balancing out democracy (or communism) emotionality with scientific pragmatism and practicality.

Altogether, we may call it praxis.

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Upholding the Spirit of a Marxist Political Party

By: Huang Kunming , English Edition of Qiushi Journal
October-December 2016|Vol.8,No.4,Issue No.29

Guiding principles represent the spirit of a political party. As a Marxist party born out of advanced ideas and equipped with scientific theories, the Communist Party of China (CPC) has placed a major emphasis on the guiding role of scientific theories in the development of its cause. Having always regarded theory as the foundation of the Party and the source of its vitality, the CPC has engaged in a constant effort to strengthen itself theoretically. As General Secretary Xi Jinping pointed out in a speech commemorating the 95th anniversary of the founding of the CPC, “Over the past 95 years, the reason why the CPC has managed to complete an arduous mission that no other political force in modern China was able to complete is that the CPC has always taken Marxism as its guide to action, and remained committed to enriching and developing this scientific theory in practice.” If we are to stay true to our cause and continue moving forward at a new historical starting point, it is imperative that we uphold our principles and bolster our supporting foundation, equipping the entire Party with the scientific theories of Marxism and using these theories to navigate a course for China’s development.

I. The foundation of the CPC and the source of its vitality

Marxism, together with Communism and Socialism, constitutes the lifeblood and spirit of communists. Since its founding, the CPC has clearly inscribed Marxism on its banner and identified the realization of communism as its highest ideal. In its 95-year history, the CPC has upheld Marxism in turbulent times, and reaffirmed its Marxist beliefs in the face of trials and tribulations, always upholding and developing Marxism. In modern times, as a torn-apart China teetered on the brink of destruction, many -isms and ideas came and went, and many paths and methods were explored, but to no avail. After much searching and many setbacks, the Chinese people chose Marxism and the CPC. Marxism, like a burning torch, lit up China, giving the humiliated Chinese nation the hope of independence and rejuvenation. Over the past 95 years, the CPC has pursued its Marxist convictions with high consciousness, upheld Marxism with unswerving resolve, and developed Marxism in a scientific and pragmatic manner, allowing it to take root and thrive in China. It is this commitment to developing Marxism during the course of China’s revolution, socialist construction, and reform that has enabled the CPC to navigate intricate and complex situations, develop a common language for the whole Party and a common foundation for the concerted efforts of all Chinese people, and overcome various difficulties on the path ahead, ultimately captivating the world with its historic achievements.

Pursuing development amidst adherence and innovation amidst development constitutes the scientific attitude of Chinese Communists towards Marxism. General Secretary Xi Jinping has noted, “Marxism does not exhaust truth, but rather paves a path towards it.” The ability to evolve with the times is a theoretical characteristic of Marxism. As a scientific truth, the fundamental principles, standpoints, viewpoints, and methods of Marxism provide us with a strong theoretical tool for observing and resolving issues concerning human development.

However, Marxism is also an evolving theory. Marx and Engels pointed out on many occasions that their theories were guidance for action rather than dogma, and that the application of Marxist general principles should depend on specific historical conditions. A true Marxist that abides by the fundamental principles of Marxism can constantly provide new answers to major theoretical and practical questions in accordance with changing conditions.

When we embarked on revolution and socialist construction, we had no prior experience to draw upon. This meant that we needed the courage to write a new chapter of Marxism, to create a new version of scientific socialism, and to endow Marxism with new vigor and vitality. Over the past 95 years, the CPC has overcome one difficulty after another, and achieved one victory after another, enabling China to catch up with the times and the Chinese people to enjoy independence, prosperity, and strength. The key to this success has been the CPC’s commitment to integrating the fundamental principles of Marxism with China’s realities and the features of the times. By constantly adapting Marxism to China’s conditions, we have achieved two historic leaps forward in theory: the first resulting in Mao Zedong Thought and the second resulting in socialism with Chinese characteristics, both of which created new prospects for the development of Marxism.

Mao Zedong, Zhu De, and Zhou Enlai pictured in northern Shaanxi after the Long March, a historic trek that saw the Red Army withdraw from the southern province of Jiangxi to evade the pursuit of the Kuomintang (KMT). XINHUA

With each step forward in theoretical innovation, the CPC has been further empowered. For 95 years, the CPC has remained committed to equipping itself with innovations in theory. Using developments in theory to guide its organization, conduct, system, and anti-corruption endeavors, it has ensured that the theories and practice of the CPC embody the spirit of the times, reflect a mastery of the laws of development, and demonstrate creativeness. In the early days of the CPC, in view of the fact that most Party members were farmers, and that knowledge of Marxism varied greatly within the Party, Mao Zedong emphasized that the fundamental means of preserving the advanced nature of the CPC and its members would be to strengthen Marxist education and raise the political awareness of Party members, so that Party members could be integrated into the CPC not only organizationally but also in the way of thinking. During the Yan’an era (late 1935-early 1948), the CPC achieved unprecedented ideological and organizational unity within the Party through the rectification movement.

In the early days of the People’s Republic of China which was founded in 1949, the entire CPC devoted itself to the study of Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, and other new things in an effort to creatively promote socialist transformation and advance socialist construction. And since the launch of the reform and opening up drive, through successive Party-wide campaigns to study and implement Deng Xiaoping Theory, the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development, and the guiding principles in General Secretary Xi Jinping’s important speeches, Party-member officials have learned about the newest outcomes of the Party’s theoretical innovation in profound depth. The resulting increase in the entire Party’s understanding of Marxist theory has provided scientific guidance and strong impetus for implementing the Party’s line, principles, and policies, and for promoting a grand new undertaking in Party building.

II. A new chapter of Marxism in contemporary China

Chinese Communists are fully aware that the fact we were progressive in the past does not necessarily mean that we are progressive today, and the fact that we are progressive today does not necessarily mean that we will be progressive indefinitely. The tests that the CPC must overcome are far from over, and the dream that we pursue remains on the road in front of us. In the face of new historic mission, the CPC is carrying out a great struggle with many new historical features. Never before have we faced such a rapidly changing situation and environment, such an arduous task in reform, development, and stability, such a large number of problems, risks, and challenges, and such a great test of our capacity to govern. As the CPC’s historic mission, the conditions of its governance, and the makeup and status of political thinking of its members undergo profound changes, the question of how we can respond to the “four tests” (long-term governance, carrying out reform and opening up, developing the market economy, and responding to the external environment) and overcome the “four dangers” (losing drive, incompetence, becoming out of touch with the people, and corruption) has become a major topic facing the CPC at present.

Only by upholding its political guiding principles can CPC march forward in the right direction. Since the 18th National Congress of the CPC in 2012, the CPC Central Committee headed by General Secretary Xi Jinping, guided by its commitment to upholding and developing socialism with Chinese characteristics, has rallied the whole Party and people of all China’s ethnic groups in a dedicated effort to open up new prospects for governance and new horizons for the causes of the CPC and the country. During this process, the CPC, through practice and innovation, has constantly deepened its understanding of the laws of governance by a communist party, of the laws of socialism, and of the laws governing the development of human society. On this basis, it has formed a series of new concepts, ideas, and strategies with regard to national governance, and creatively developed a Marxism for 21st-century China that will guide our efforts to advance the cause of Chinese socialism and carry out a new undertaking in Party building.

The new concepts, ideas, and strategies of the CPC Central Committee with regard to governance are mainly embodied in General Secretary Xi Jinping’s important speeches. These include the Chinese dream of national rejuvenation; the five-pronged overall plan for the development of Chinese socialism; the Four Comprehensives; China’s new development principles; core socialist values; the new normal of economic development; supply-side structural reform; the Belt and Road Initiative; a new model of international relations based on mutually beneficial cooperation; and a community of shared future for mankind. These concepts constitute the basic hallmarks of the new ideas, thoughts, and strategies in national governance introduced by the CPC Central Committee headed by General Secretary Xi Jinping. Representing the latest theoretical achievements of the CPC, they will serve as a basic guideline for realizing our new goals.

III. Consolidating the theoretical foundation for concerted endeavors

Strengthening the CPC theoretically is akin to forging the Party’s soul and bolstering its foundations. To ensure that the CPC stays at the forefront of the times, it is imperative that we engage in a constant effort to strengthen the CPC theoretically and raise understanding of Marxist theories throughout the whole Party.

The soul and foundation of Chinese Communists is their belief in Marxism, socialism with Chinese characteristics, and communism. As firm believers in the lofty ideal of communism, and practitioners of the common ideal of socialism with Chinese characteristics, Chinese Communists should be devout and determined. They should remain modest and prudent in the face of victory and good fortune, and avoid disillusionment and wavering in the face of difficulty and adversity, always fighting for social progress and fine aspirations. The realization of communism will be an extremely long historical process, one that requires unremitting efforts of generation after generation of communists. Every communist should uphold a determined pursuit of their ideals, convictions, and goals, remain mindful of their goals while keeping their feet firmly on the ground, and engage in practical, devoted efforts. Forging ahead and surmounting difficulties, they should always preserve their vigor, revolutionary zeal, and fighting spirit.

Our firm commitment to our ideals and convictions comes from our clear understanding of theory. General Secretary Xi has repeatedly stressed that, to forge a body that is immune to corruption, we must equip ourselves with scientific theories and establish a common identity. Since the CPC’s 18th National Congress in 2012, with a view to preserving the CPC’s advanced nature and purity, the CPC Central Committee has devoted major efforts to strengthening the Party theoretically. Through a combination of collective education and routine education, it has applied the concepts of developing Marxism in a bid to strengthen the ideals and convictions of Party members and better equip them with theory. All Party members are required to study Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory, the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development, the guiding principles in Xi Jinping’s important speeches, and the new ideas, thoughts, and strategies in national governance introduced by the CPC Central Committee.

By identifying the study of the guiding principles in Xi Jinping’s important speeches as the number one priority in strengthening the Party theoretically, we should grasp and apply the Marxist standpoints, viewpoints, and methodologies embodied throughout Xi’s speeches, ensuring that we genuinely study, understand, believe in, and apply them. We must become more aware of the need to uphold political integrity; keep in mind the overall situation; follow the CPC Central Committee as the core of the Chinese leadership; and act consistently with CPC Central Committee policy. We must insist on reading the original texts of Xi’s speeches and unlocking their inner meaning, and believe in and apply the guiding principles of these speeches, transforming them into positive energy that we can use to enhance our ability, gather our strength, and advance our work.

The purpose of theory is to guide practice and the merit of study lies in practical application. With a view to implementing the theoretical innovations of the Party, we must promote our fine tradition of linking theory and practice, bear in mind the realities of reform, development, and stability and the mindset of officials and members of the public, and transform our scientific theories into outstanding practices that can boost economic and social development, and into theoretical consensus and conscious actions for building a moderately prosperous society in all respects. The problems we face are a sign of the times we live in. For this reason, it is important we raise our awareness of problems and orient our initiatives towards problems. Taking the study of major theoretical and practical issues as the breakthrough point, we should strive to answer Chinese questions using Chinese theories and interpret the Chinese path with Chinese discourse. We need to take substantive steps to address difficulties in reform and development as well as issues of major concern to the public, so as to promote China’s sound and sustainable economic and social development as we are tackling tough challenges.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

For many third world countries, the idea of democracy is just the ability to vote. Doesn't matter whether you understand the policies or not, or who you are voting for, just the ability to vote.

Without a balanced ......

Unfortunately, China is not interested in exporting its political system. The Chinese don't think it will work elsewhere. .

Thank god for little mercies.

 

[tranquilium]

IMO, equating "democracy" and "general vote" is the biggest fallacy in the recent years. The question we have to ask is that "what is democracy" and "why would it be good".

At the fundamental level, the need for survivial and desire for better condition drove the human mind and behavior. We built civilization, invented code of law and concepts of morality not because any kind of divine intervention or random pleasure, but because they have been proven to benefit the overall surivival and betterment of humanity. Similarly, the core concept of "democracy" is the idea that by allowing more people to participate in running of the society, the civilization itself become stronger.

However, it is necessary to remember the mechanic which democracy allows the society grow stronger. In Chinese interpretation, democracy in politics means all members of the population may choose to pursue a political career. This gives a larger candidate pool for selecting leaders of the society. With the larger candidate pool, there is also better chance for people with exceptional skill to appear. Hence why the CCP has such a large membership. This is also why democracy is one of the center theme in Chinese education.

What China does not agree with the western countries is the method for leadership selection. In Chinese concept, a leader should someone who started from the bottom and through effort and skill, rise through the ranks. Their skills and merits will be evaluated by their immediate peers and most importantly, by people who are clearly qualified and experienced in the particular field. This is actually a quite common approach in scientific community and academia. The idea is that only qualified individuals should be able to pass judgement on others.

The western leadership selection method, of course, is different. Now, the western nations are certainly not stupid. The advantage of Chinese meritocracy is easy to understand. However, understanding and actual implementation is not the same thing.

For western civilizations, general election is preferable because they lack a strong central authority for arbitration, so the more immediate concern is getting everyone to work together, rather than getting the most qualified individual on the seat.

To explain the situation in another way - in Chinese culture, many people will be competing for the leadership post, but once the dust settles and the position is decided, the losers would have no choice but to work under the new leader. This means regardless of the situation, everyone would still be working together; therefore, the main focus becomes getting the most qualified individual to the leadership position.

In western culture, the loser from the competition may choose to not work with the new leader. This means even if the leader is the most skilled individual and if a large part of the group easily refused to work the leader, then the actual outcome is worse than the situation where a less qualified, but more popular leader takes position.

This is really the crux of the issue. The cause of this difference lay with history. The Chinese has a unified empire with absolute central authority for thousands of years. The Europeans, on the other hand, only started to transition out of feudalism in 1600s and the difference shows.

 

[TaiShang]

IMO, equating "democracy" and "general vote" is the biggest fallacy in the recent years. The question we have to ask is that "what is democracy" and "why would it be good".

At the fundamental level, the need for survivial and desire for better condition drove the human mind and behavior. We built civilization, invented code of law and concepts of morality not because any kind of divine intervention or random pleasure, but because they have been proven to benefit the overall surivival and betterment of humanity. Similarly, the core concept of "democracy" is the idea that by allowing more people to participate in running of the society, the civilization itself become stronger.

However, it is necessary to remember the mechanic which democracy allows the society grow stronger. In Chinese interpretation, democracy in politics means all members of the population may choose to pursue a political career. This gives a larger candidate pool for selecting leaders of the society. With the larger candidate pool, there is also better chance for people with exceptional skill to appear. Hence why the CCP has such a large membership. This is also why democracy is one of the center theme in Chinese education.

What China does not agree with the western countries is the method for leadership selection. In Chinese concept, a leader should someone who started from the bottom and through effort and skill, rise through the ranks. Their skills and merits will be evaluated by their immediate peers and most importantly, by people who are clearly qualified and experienced in the particular field. This is actually a quite common approach in scientific community and academia. The idea is that only qualified individuals should be able to pass judgement on others.

The western leadership selection method, of course, is different. Now, the western nations are certainly not stupid. The advantage of Chinese meritocracy is easy to understand. However, understanding and actual implementation is not the same thing.

For western civilizations, general election is preferable because they lack a strong central authority for arbitration, so the more immediate concern is getting everyone to work together, rather than getting the most qualified individual on the seat.

To explain the situation in another way - in Chinese culture, many people will be competing for the leadership post, but once the dust settles and the position is decided, the losers would have no choice but to work under the new leader. This means regardless of the situation, everyone would still be working together; therefore, the main focus becomes getting the most qualified individual to the leadership position.

In western culture, the loser from the competition may choose to not work with the new leader. This means even if the leader is the most skilled individual and if a large part of the group easily refused to work the leader, then the actual outcome is worse than the situation where a less qualified, but more popular leader takes position.

This is really the crux of the issue. The cause of this difference lay with history. The Chinese has a unified empire with absolute central authority for thousands of years. The Europeans, on the other hand, only started to transition out of feudalism in 1600s and the difference shows.

Excellent, textbook-level analysis. I am wondering if you could also elaborate on differences between Greek democracy and Roman republic. Comparing them makes sense, in my opinion, because both are offshoots of Western civilization. Comparing them with China's meritocratic model is illogical because these are two distinct civilizations.

From this inter-Western comparison, we may have some great insights into the election process and representation in democracies and republics.

 

[tranquilium]

Excellent, textbook-level analysis. I am wondering if you could also elaborate on differences between Greek democracy and Roman republic. Comparing them makes sense, in my opinion, because both are offshoots of Western civilization. Comparing them with China's meritocratic model is illogical because these are two distinct civilizations.

From this inter-Western comparison, we may have some great insights into the election process and representation in democracies and republics.

Aside from the fact both system eventually got displaced because it is leading the civilization to ruin, there is a key difference between Roman, Athenian elections and their modern day counterpart. In both ancient cases, the eligible elector pool is SMALL. Take Athenians for example, it is estimated that at most between 31,000 and 50,000 people are eligible and even less actually participate in the voting process. Although Romans has a much bigger population, its eligible voting pool never exceed the 100,000 and a 10% participation rate is considered a generous estimation by the historians.

Basically, the entire Roman empires, which span across the Mediterranean, has less people voting than your hometown university electing its student president. There are similar practices throughout the ages. For example, the medieval holy roman empire also hold elections between powerful nobles. The winner is crowned the Kaiser of holy roman empire.

For the Athenian democracy, you need to realize something, the ancient Greeks' definition of citizen is quite different from our definition today. The Athenian was originally ruled by nobility just like every other city state in the region. In fact, the nobility ended up growing so powerful, they enslaved everyone that was not part of the noble family and later reforms basically renamed the nobility and their families citizens. This is why so little percentage of the Athenian population is eligible to vote, because the vast majority of its actual people are slaves. Aside from naming conventions, there really isn't much actual difference between Athenian democracy and medieval alliance between nobles.

 

[Viet]

Chinese run amok again. Western systems have their weaknesses but calling them decay is shameless. 99 pct Chinese on mainland for almost of chinese history of 3,000 years were suffering all sorts of oppressions from the landowners to local authority to the emperor. Most Chinese peasants had no rights only hard work and got exploited. Chinese merchants were treated like thieves and prostitutues. Lots were killed and looted.

Now under communist china, things have turned to positive. But considering the short time span, less than 100 years, it is too early to celebrate.

Western electoral democracy has reached its level of incompetence

Do you feel no shame living in a foreign country while spewing Chinese propaganda?

 

[shadows888]

Chinese run amok again. Western systems have their weaknesses but calling them decay is shameless. 99 pct Chinese on mainland for almost of chinese history of 3,000 years were suffering all sorts of oppressions from the landowners to local authority to the emperor. Most Chinese peasants had no rights only hard work and got exploited. Chinese merchants were treated like thieves and prostitutues. Lots were killed and looted.

Now under communist china, things have turned to positive. But considering the short time span, less than 100 years, it is too early to celebrate.


Do you feel no shame living in a foreign country while spewing Chinese propaganda?

there's sooo many plot holes in your augment. never seen a more cucked asian.

 

[Viet]

there's sooo many plot holes in your augment. never seen a more cucked asian.

Prove what I said is wrong!

Seriously, I wish Chinese would adopt a more humble approach not displaying the arrogance at any opportunity. Where is the Confucian teaching? The people of Germany, France, Italy or England aren't amused by such low propaganda.

The west is decaying. Hurra.

 

[TaiShang]

The west is decaying. Hurra.

"Political" decay, which is perhaps too subtle for you to comprehend.

 

[Viet]

"Political" decay, which is perhaps too subtle for you to comprehend.

What do you see decay in the west?
Because of Trump? Because of Brexit? What? Because of worthless propaganda pieces here and there?

The people in Germany are enjoying the longest period of peace and prosperity in their entire history. They laugh at your decay story.

 

[Mufflerman]

First things first. Democracy is not a Western concept. If China's contempt for Democracy is because they think it's Western, then all I can say is I pity your education system.

Secondly, fresh paint and shiny roads do not reflect general well being of a society. Perhaps you can find a way to correlate general level of discontent in society to the number of protests by its subjects. In other words, take a good fkn hard look in the mirror.

Lastly, please don't drag India into this because of my flag because this article is about how awesome China is. Not about how awesome China is when compared to India.

Side note: Good job with the Iraq and Lybia photos as a case in point because they are quite simply the best functioning democratic systems today.

 

[TaiShang]

fresh paint and shiny roads do not reflect general well being of a society.

They do, angry bird. They reflect ease of transportation, which is important. Other criteria are hygiene, nutrition, food affordability, universal affordable healthcare, decent housing, longevity, retirement benefits, efficient public services, safety for women, etc.

Lastly, please don't drag India into this because of my flag because this article is about how awesome China is.

We consider it an insult to compare China with India. Why keep the threshold so low? We tend to look up to Japan, Korea, Singapore in terms of efficiency and quality.

Good job with the Iraq and Lybia photos as a case in point because they are quite simply the best functioning democratic systems today.

Historically, people studied India to as a case study for dysfunctional governance.

Now some observers propose to include the US and increasingly neo-fascist leaning certain Western states to study the pervert forms of democracy.

What do you see decay in the west?
Because of Trump? Because of Brexit? What? Because of worthless propaganda pieces here and there?

If worthless propaganda (not even just propaganda), you should not be so worked upon. The decay in general indicates a tendency to turn to fascism because of extreme neoliberalism, among others.

The people in Germany are enjoying the longest period of peace and prosperity in their entire history. They laugh at your decay story.

Let the people of Germany speak for themselves. "Longest peace of prosperity in their history" would mean that German people never in their history had a period of peace of prosperity longer than 70 years.

Is that so?

@Götterdämmerung