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Western Hypocrisy on Russia, Social Media Manipulation

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No doubt, I am labeled a “Kremlin troll” by those who disagree with me, and typically this is followed by accusations that I’m paid to make pro-Kremlin posts. I’m actually an American citizen. Apparently, if you don’t think that the US has the right to go charging around the world like a bull in a china shop, risking nuclear war over the vice president’s right to have his son Hunter Biden be on the largest gas company in Ukraine, ready to plunder Ukraine of over 9 trillion in natural resources, then that makes you a Kremlin troll?

Western Claims
The United States, as well as western media, accuses Russia of employing an army of trolls to engage with social media, in order to influence public opinion. In case you missed it, here are some examples
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It’s almost comical how these papers describe it, as though groups of Russian citizens (who apparently speak flawless English) are crammed into “sweat shops” (if you can actually sweat in St. Petersburg), and paid a paltry sum of $900+ per month in order to slave away at crafting propaganda.

Now, I’m not going to claim that Russia doesn’t do this. They’d be stupid not to. Russia cares about how it is perceived in the world. For crying out loud, they spent 42 billion dollars on the Sochi winter Olympics. They’re going to spend even more on the upcoming World Cup in 2018. The United States has declared economic war on Russia, enforcing sanctions and bullying / browbeating / humiliating / threatening regime change, etc., to any country who doesn’t go along with it. Through its control of western media, the US has engaged in a major propaganda war against Russia. Why wouldn’t Russia come forward to make its own case?

Russia is majorly criticized for giving its own point of view.
Tell me again, western media, how much you value free speech? Tell me how Russia, as a country, should not be allowed to face the countless barrage of allegations against it? Western media was loudly proclaiming Russia’s guilt over MH17 within hours after it occurred, with strong condemnation from the White House, and apparently Russia isn’t allowed to say anything on its own behalf to counter these allegations.

Drawing our attention back to this supposed army of online social media warriors hired by the Kremlin, I’d like to present to you major hypocrisy by the west.

UK Hires 1500 Soldiers to Spread Positive Propaganda on Social Websites
As you can see here:

The British army is creating a special force of Facebook warriors, skilled in psychological operations and use of social media to engage in unconventional warfare in the information age.

Aren’t you happy, citizens of the UK, that your tax dollars has paid for 1500 soldiers to sit there, on social media websites, pretending to be people who they are not, and engaging in propaganda so that you, the average UK citizen, will know the right thing to think when some evidence comes forward that is damning to western interests, and exonerates Russia? Certainly all the news that the west offers should be sufficient for you to make up your mind, without the army lying about its identity and telling you how you should think?

CIA Manipulates Social Media
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Any truth or defense presented by Russia is such a threat, that the CIA has taken precautions so you don’t accidentally believe any of it:

The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.

And, very interestingly, this 2011 article makes a prediction:

The discovery that the US military is developing false online personalities – known to users of social media as “sock puppets” – could also encourage other governments, private companies and non-government organisations to do the same.

Over four years ago, the Guardian predicted that other governments would have to come up with their own social armies,
to fight against the one that the US has been preparing for many years
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I’m going to ask you all a question, and I want you to think about it. When you’re reading some pro-western article online, and the comments are filled with “bravo, excellent post, Russia sucks” types of comments, how do you know that is not the CIA, US Military, or UK Military personnel, or fancy US generated software that isn’t making those posts? Really, how do you know? Because the CIA, US Military and UK government’s employment of these “fake” social media soldiers is a documented fact. Their budget is in the billions of dollars. You know for a fact, thanks to Snowden, that the US government reads, and stores for future posterity, every single thing you do online. Those articles listed above, claiming Russia is funding trolls, said their budget was $250k.

There are 1500 soldiers employed by UK alone. How many online newspapers are there, exactly? How many articles come out every day that are important to US foreign policy? A dozen? Two dozen? Let’s call it 100 articles daily, shall we? That means there are 15 personnel employed by the UK, per article, per day. That also assumes each one only makes a comment on one article. If this is your job, how many posts could you make per day, 50? If that’s true, the UK alone could be responsible for some 75,000+ comments per day! Now throw in the CIA and special military software to do the same type of commenting, perhaps even automated.

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It’s all propaganda folks. Russia has a 1% stake in your daily propaganda, if you so happen to log in to RT news, or see a Russian-made comment on your favorite newspaper. The west feeds you 99% of your propaganda. Seeing that Obama has bombed over 7 countries in the last 6 years, that war is the main export of the US, and that Ukraine has become a total war zone in order to plunder it of its natural resources, are you sure you’re reading the right propaganda?

Western Hypocrisy, Social Media Manipulation | Thick Toast
 
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If you objectively compare the American invasion of Iraq, to the Russian annexation of Crimea, it is obvious which one was worse.

No amount of twisting from American politicians/media is going to change that.

Yet they are still doing their best to get the world to sanction Russia.
 
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India must shown respect to white master and don't use negative attitudes toward US, they love you alot!

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If you objectively compare the American invasion of Iraq, to the Russian annexation of Crimea, it is obvious which one was worse.

No amount of twisting from American politicians/media is going to change that.

Yet they are still doing their best to get the world to sanction Russia.
No seperate nationalistic agenda here, I presume? How is landreclamation in the SOuth China Sea going these days? Making any headway at the game of EEZ-grab? When's the last time Chinese government shut don't internet for its citizens again? Talk about hypocracy....
 
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If you browse the web as an impartial observer, you would notice that propaganda that favors the US and its regime far outweighs those that favor Russia, China, India or others.

Most alternative media (unfortunately) is reactive; they often come out in order to point out the falsifications, injustices, hypocrisies, and shortcomings of the US regime. They are not even proactive. Yet, it is these social media that is seen as trolling, but not the origin of the whole information manipulation, that is, the US regime media.

Sock-puppets are just one example as to how the US regime is actively engaged in online trolling through fake accounts.

When it comes to real-person trolling, just visit any Global Times comment section and see which "side" prevails in terms of numbers, especially with respect to some "sensitive" news that Western media terrorists often uses against China.

My rule of thumb: never trust US regime media and seek news through multiple alternative agencies (Chinese, Russian, Iranian, Latin American etc.)
 
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No seperate nationalistic agende here, I presume?

Not as far as I know.

Like I said, compare the two in objective terms. How many died, which region is worse off today.

And ironically it is only Russia that is getting sanctioned.
 
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Not as far as I know.

Like I said, compare the two in objective terms. How many died, which region is worse off today.

And ironically it is only Russia that is getting sanctioned.
There are several big differences though between the two cases : the US never had the intention of making Iraq part of the US, and it wasn't 'reclaiming' it (based on old glory). Also, the existing 'regimes' weren't in the least comparable either. Which is not to say anything positive about the Iraq invasion. It is just that you are comparing apples and oranges in terms of situations and contexts. That may be what you mean by 'objective terms' but actually not paying attention to situation and context is NOT objective.
 
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There are several big differences though between the two cases : the US never had the intention of making Iraq part of the US, and it wasn't 'reclaiming' it (based on old glory). Also, the existing 'regimes' weren't in the least comparable either. Which is not to say anything positive about the Iraq invasion. It is just that you are comparing apples and oranges in terms of situations and contexts. That may be what you mean by 'objective terms' but actually not paying attention to situation and context is NOT objective.

I'm talking about which is more worthy of being sanctioned?

The one that caused FAR greater damage and turned Iraq into a worse place than Somalia, with endless suicide bombings, or the annexation of former territories based on a voluntary vote?

Voluntary vote compared to invisible WMD's? Around a million civilians dead compared to no civilians dead? Stable Crimea versus ISIS?

You asked me if I am biased from a nationalistic viewpoint, my answer is possibly. Subconsciously maybe, but certainly not intentionally.

Now I put the same question to you, as a European are you biased regarding the Crimea issue?
 
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How is landreclamation in the SOuth China Sea going these days? Making any headway at the game of EEZ-grab? When's the last time Chinese government shut don't internet for its citizens again? Talk about hypocracy....

Wow the South China Sea is just SO relevant to the thread title topic right? :lol: (It's going fine by the way, we're discussing it on another thread).

Talking about bias, I'm not even from Russia or Europe.

I'm from Hong Kong, thus an outside observer to the issues between Russia and Europe. While you are from Europe, which is the party that lost territory (Crimea).
 
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Now I put the same question to you, as a European are you biased regarding the Crimea issue?
Have you stopped beating your wife?

While you are from Europe, which is the party that lost territory (Crimea).
We're all from the world. Ukraine lost territory. Russia (also part of Europe) gained territory. The net balance for Europe is 0.
 
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