West Asia: Why U.S., Turkey oppose Syrian operation in Idlib

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

also only stupid Syrian traitors including Assad Regime will believe that Russians will take into account the interests of the Syrian people

The US and Russia are same sh1t

Yes but it is not Russia bombing the ordinary syrian people but US and US supported terrorists.
And it is definitely better to live under one united gov not under severals.
We chinese knew it well back to 60 years ago when there were communist gov,KMT gov,semi indepentdent govs which allow the Jap invaision cause much more deaths,.....
Today Under CCP leadership ,no one dare to invade China, not even by Yankees!

 

[Zhukov]

So the crux of the matter is, Syrian Government want to push through the final phase of operation against Jihadis ( name them whatever you like people just fighting in the name of Islam for all reasons but to clear aim). Idlib is their last safe heaven.
Obviously they will run back to Turkey when Syrian Army will push through and they don't have the resources to fight back the Syrian Army.
And that will place turkey in a dilemma. It cannot Allow these radicals into turkey and make turkey unstable as it is evident from the history of these Religious radical militias they can never know piece.
Neither can Turkey start operation against them as its against the narrative turkey have been working on in Syria.
So Best Strategy for Turkey is to try to contain them in Idlib. As they are not Hurting Damascus Government from Idlib and Northern Allepo.
An Syrian Government is Persisting on its policy of not giving away one inch of Syria.
Rest is just Propaganda paint it however you want.

My humble Opinion is Turkey should start an operation along with Russians And Syrians against only Extreme Radical Groups and Force other groups under the influence of Turkey for a reconciliation with Syrian government. thats the only way out i guess. And then Join Forces with Syrian Government against The Kurdish problem that is a National Security Threat for both Turkey and Syria. Erdogan must let his Ego Down a bit. Its not about victory anymore. Its about Solving this mess.

 

[sammuel]

And that will place turkey in a dilemma. It cannot Allow these radicals into turkey and make turkey unstable as it is evident from the history of these Religious radical militias they can never know piece.
Neither can Turkey start operation against them as its against the narrative turkey have been working on in Syria.
So Best Strategy for Turkey is to try to contain them in Idlib.

I take it only about 1 from 100 is actually a fighter , the rest are civilians.

If idlib is attacked in the same manner that other areas in syria was attacked than Turkey would have an additional 2-3 million refugees to take , in addition to the 2-3 million refugees they already house.

I am sure you can understand why they would want to avoid that at all cost ...


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[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

So there are no plans to take back the areas captured by SDF?

SDF does not go after Damascus and kill Assad. They are no threat to Assad plus they are mainly on the other side of the river.

If idlib is attacked in the same manner that other areas in syria was attacked than Turkey would have an additional 2-3 million refugees to take , in addition to the 2-3 million refugees thr already house.

That's no excuse. No one asked them to take refugees. Israel and Russia have no refugees. It is their state policy. If Turkey don't want refugees, then don't take refugees. Hitler was killed despite millions of refugees in WW2, but what has to be done has to be done. Like I said, it'll get a whole lot worse before it gets any better.

 

[T-Rex]

Yes but it is not Russia bombing the ordinary syrian people

Communist propaganda machine at work again!

And it is definitely better to live under one united gov not under severals.

Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, all of them were champions of this kind of 'united government!

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[RoadRunner401]

Precision...

HTS is an emanation of various Armed group, with a good part coming from the Nusra Front...
The Nusra Front was indeed aligned to AQ ideology BUT broke from it in the early stage and To this Day is anti-AQ ideology...

Many ppl, may think it's the same, that both are Radical Islamist groups... And they are right...But in the core they aren't quite AQ doctrine and their "To the End action" something HTS doesn't.

Anyway. Idlib is important for all side in Syria..;and therefore it's Future is the Key of Syria Future and the Reshuffle or not of the Regional political landscape.


ASSad wish, But With the US, it's difficult.
ASSad and Co see Turkey as weaker than the US and therefore more easily breakable... That's why they decided to go to Idlib first...

Even The small pocket in Al tanf, where, there is almost no one...Assad and Ally didn't dare to move an inch in... or Deir ez Zor etc...

ASSad need SDF indirect Support for now... Whatever in North Aleppo or Near the Euphrates limit and Qamishli...

You sound like a perfect candidate to buy the Brooklyn bridge.

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[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Communist propaganda machine at work again!



Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, all of them were champions of this kind of 'united government!

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indians' tiny brain can not understand what is united gov and what is chaos !

 

[T-Rex]

indians' tiny brain can not understand what is united gov and what is chaos !

There's no difference between assad's 'united' government and Hitler's 'united' government. Your big fvckin brain cannot see it because you're wearing Uighur glasses.

 

[SubWater]

There's no difference between assad's 'united' government and Hitler's 'united' government. Your big fvckin brain cannot see it because you're wearing Uighur glasses.

What ????
Strong central gov is good and Syrian government is legitimate in the eyes of world base on international rules.

 

[T-Rex]

What ????
Strong central gov is good and Syrian government is legitimate in the eyes of world base on international rules.

And Hitler's strong central government was also good till Hitler started screwing your Russian godfather's mother. As for the illegitimate despot, the Syrian people have given their verdict in Idlib, you can keep your international rules to yourself.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

What ????
Strong central gov is good and Syrian government is legitimate in the eyes of world base on international rules.

This T-rex guy is an Indian disguished as BD people.
My love for Pakistan and BD not weakened but renforced!!!
Typical Indian tactics！

There's no difference between assad's 'united' government and Hitler's 'united' government. Your big fvckin brain cannot see it because you're wearing Uighur glasses.

Yes and India is still on UK empire time,i am sure about it before 1962.

 

[T-Rex]

This T-rex guy is an Indian disguished as BD people.
My love for Pakistan and BD not weakened but renforced!!!
Typical Indian tactics！

It is you Chinese who had his hand too in imposing indian hegemony upon us, so your so-called love for BD is just another crap you've been selling all day!

 

[925boy]

I take it only about 1 from 100 is actually a fighter

If only 1 out of 100 is a fighter, then out of 3million people in Idlib only 3,000 are fighters, which is ridiculous because we already heard reports there were about 70,000 terrorists/fighters in Idlib. You're estimate is waaay off. THe rebels in Idlib have literally because useless to everybody. I dont see any practical benefit they give. Their mandate has expired. I respect and like Turkey, but with regards to Syria, it seems karma has finally caught up with Turkey. Turkey's fate in Syria is tied to Idlib, and Idlib will fall eventually. Assad doesnt want the terrorists/fighters. Why doesnt Turkey just evacuate her own "friends"in Idlib into Turkey? That way the leftovers are the ones Assad can decide their fate. Russia seems a bit impatient also, so that makes me feel its hot rollers for these terrorists soon.

 

[Zhukov]

I take it only about 1 from 100 is actually a fighter , the rest are civilians.

If idlib is attacked in the same manner that other areas in syria was attacked than Turkey would have an additional 2-3 million refugees to take , in addition to the 2-3 million refugees they already house.

I am sure you can understand why they would want to avoid that at all cost ...


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Kindly read my whole post. I said Reconciliation agreement with turkey as guarantor with groups that want to end this conflict. And Reconciliation agreements includes pardon for non combatants and those combatants not proven of war crimes. Turkey have genuine concerns but leaving Idlib with Radicals is not a permanent solution. This will hurt both Turkey and Syria. Syrian Uprising have failed. Their is no point keeping it alive on life support with Turkish taxpayer money.
Kurds are a real threat though which nobody is bothering about

 

[T-Rex]

Kindly read my whole post. I said Reconciliation agreement with turkey as guarantor with groups that want to end this conflict. And Reconciliation agreements includes pardon for non combatants and those combatants not proven of war crimes. Turkey have genuine concerns but leaving Idlib with Radicals is not a permanent solution. This will hurt both Turkey and Syria. Syrian Uprising have failed. Their is no point keeping it alive on life support with Turkish taxpayer money.
Kurds are a real threat though which nobody is bothering about

Those thousands of Syrians who protested in Idlib would rather die than accept that genocidal maniac. No matter how you paint it, that mangy dog won't be allowed to get back Idlib. Putin is of little help in this regard.