We'll help Afghan partners, Hindus and Sikhs come to India: New Delhi

[Bilal9]

At same time, Pakistan is hosting 4+ million Afghans. So, yeah its funny how they are pretending to care about refugees... optics


I am saying they should, but India wont because those refugees are muslims. The public will never accept it, the current government in India would never accept them. Sole reason being the religion of the refugees.

India will take in the minuscule number of sikhs and hindus there, BJP will get political points, then they will run this all over their headlines how they care about Afghans. Job done.

Indian current administration have already openly declared with their CAA/NRC moves that they do not want Muslims as refugees and would rather have their Muslim Indian population just vanish out of thin air. Hindus only in Hindu Rashtra (Nation).

The words "Burbak" and "Ahammuk" come to mind.

How supposed leaders of the largest nation in the world can do this is unfathomable to me.

I am waiting to see how current Hindutva fanatics react to their Hindu nation sheltering Afghan Muslim refugees. This is going to be interesting to watch....

 

[Kuru]

am saying they should, but India wont because those refugees are muslims. The public will never accept it, the current government in India would never accept them. Sole reason being the religion of the refugees.

But Rohingyas are also Muslims and thousands of them are staying here already. How did that happen?

India will take in the minuscule number of sikhs and hindus there, BJP will get political points, then they will run this all over their headlines how they care about Afghans. Job done.

I didn't know the former official of Kandahar Police Tadin Khan was a Hindu or Sikh.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1427083345410752515

 

[magra]

Afghan Muslims not welcome!

That's par for this depraved government and society

Do not twist whats been said. Indian govt is not saying Afghan muslims are not welcome. They only said they will prioritize Afghan Hindus and Sikhs as minorities are more vulnerable under Taliban rule.

Currently there are 80 Afghan security forces training in India (possibly all are Muslim). Also some Afghan cabinet members flew to India recently. I dont think India would send them back.

At same time, Pakistan is hosting 4+ million Afghans. So, yeah its funny how they are pretending to care about refugees... optics


I am saying they should, but India wont because those refugees are muslims. The public will never accept it, the current government in India would never accept them. Sole reason being the religion of the refugees.

India will take in the minuscule number of sikhs and hindus there, BJP will get political points, then they will run this all over their headlines how they care about Afghans. Job done.

Afghan mess is not India's creation. People who are responsible for this mess are NATO, Pakistan, Russia.
We will take in those numbers we are comfortable with. We are under no obligation to take in anyone.

 

[Lincoln]

But Rohingyas are also Muslims and thousands of them are staying here already. How did that happen?


I didn't know the former official of Kandahar Police Tadin Khan was a Hindu or Sikh.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1427083345410752515

Thousands of them are staying while the public loathes and hates them. Forty thousand at most.

Public also doesn't want Afghan refugees. Just wait and watch how many Afghan refugees India takes. You know the answer well.

 

[Kuru]

Thousands of them are staying while the public loathes and hates them. Forty thousand at most.

Public also doesn't want Afghan refugees. Just wait and watch how many Afghan refugees India takes. You know the answer well.

Sir, its 40k or just 40, the point is that the Rohingya Muslims were given refuge in India. This goes against your claim in the post I quoted.

Also, Afghans have already started arriving, I also shared a tweet showing that video.

I dont know why you think that we are a bunch of Muslim haters which we are not really. I dont expect you to change your perception but at least watch the video I shared to know the reality that India HAS ALREADY STARTED RECIEVING MUSLIM AFGHAN REGUGEES.

 

[Chhatrapati]

so why doesnt india also repatriate over 5 million hindus in gulf countries?

arent gulf countries following and interpretation of sharia law?

False equivalents. They're not citizens of middle East, they're indians living and working there. They're free to travel in and out.

 

[xeuss]

Do not twist whats been said. Indian govt is not saying Afghan muslims are not welcome. They only said they will prioritize Afghan Hindus and Sikhs as minorities are more vulnerable under Taliban rule.

Currently there are 80 Afghan security forces training in India (possibly all are Muslim). Also some Afghan cabinet members flew to India recently. I dont think India would send them back.

The willingness of people to whitewash the crimes of this government speaks volumes.

 

[magra]

The willingness of people to whitewash the crimes of this government speaks volumes.

I am not whitewashing anything. I prefer commenting on specific issues and praising or criticizing accordingly. In this specific instance, I see nothing wrong being done by Indian govt. What would you have advised them instead?

 

[Protest_again]

The willingness of people to whitewash the crimes of this government speaks volumes.

The stupidity of yours to expect us to take Muslims when you have 2 other Muslim nations in SOUTH ASIA and 51 countries world over. I don't want any people who could disturb our peace in India. India is a Hindu nation and will stay so. No body cares about your opinion.

 

[Verve]

Afghan Hindus and Sikhs? lol what like all 18 of them? India really needs to keep its mouth shut they have done worse human rights violations than Taliban ever have in IoK. Need to break up India and crush their pathetic veggie fed army.

They'll most likely be killed just as many Hindu migrants from Pakistan were killed in recent years.

 

[xeuss]

I am not whitewashing anything. I prefer commenting on specific issues and praising or criticizing accordingly. In this specific instance, I see nothing wrong being done by Indian govt. What would you have advised them instead?

First, have a humane refugee and asylum policy. India has never had one. There are no legal provisions for refugees or asylum seekers in India.

Second, admit people based on their circumstances or refugee status and not use a religion as a test.

 

[magra]

First, have a humane refugee and asylum policy. India has never had one. There are no legal provisions for refugees or asylum seekers in India.

Second, admit people based on their circumstances refugee status and not use a religion as a test.

In principle I agree with you. On the ground, it may be a tad difficult to scrutinize each individual case. Given the urgent need to bring refugees and not much time to vet, it is a fairly practical assumption that Afghan minorities are at a greater threat than Afghan muslims from the Taliban. Moreover, for Afghan Hindus / Sikhs, India is a natural 2nd home.

For Afghan muslims, there are a host of other countries too where they can go. There is no special appeal for them to come to India. And we cannot intake a very large number anyways, and neither are we obligated to given this is not a mess of our making. If we can only intake limited number, how will we decide which ones to give refuge and which ones to not give.

For the long term though, I agree with you that we should have some guidance policy in place for asylum seekers. Right now, it is very subjective and haphazard which causes confusion and anxiety.

 

[xeuss]

In principle I agree with you. On the ground, it may be a tad difficult to scrutinize each individual case. Given the urgent need to bring refugees and not much time to vet, it is a fairly practical assumption that Afghan minorities are at a greater threat than Afghan muslims from the Taliban. Moreover, for Afghan Hindus / Sikhs, India is a natural 2nd home.

For Afghan muslims, there are a host of other countries too where they can go. There is no special appeal for them to come to India. And we cannot intake a very large number anyways, and neither are we obligated to given this is not a mess of our making. If we can only intake limited number, how will we decide which ones to give refuge and which ones to not give.

For the long term though, I agree with you that we should have some guidance policy in place for asylum seekers. Right now, it is very subjective and haphazard which causes confusion and anxiety.

Thank you for at least acknowledging the discriminatory policy from India. Unless we acknowledge a problem, we cannot fix it (not that you and I are in any position to do anything).

But let me take another opportunity to pick on another point that you have made. This relates to the comment that "India is a natural home for Hindus/Sikhs and Muslims have so many Muslim countries to go to"

This is nothing more than subconsciously parroting the Sanghi narrative that has permeated the Indian narrative, more expressly in the last decade. That being, that India is a country for the Hindus, and Muslims have no place in it. The announcement from the MEA was another enforcement of this.

India is a country for Indians. Those Hindus who live in Afghanistan, South Africa, Caribbean, Malaysia etc have no "religious" right to be in India.

I can't think of any other country in the world that has a religious test for refugees. What is more astonishing that is the majority of the country is okay with it (and so are you - based on your comments). Therefore, when I say "whitewashing", it is this kind of blatant discrimination that is given a pass by the larger society.

 

[Imad.Khan]

An eye opener for Afghans that call India friend

We have been saying this for a while and now Indians are admitting it too

Check this they are finally admitting that they patronize terrorists in other countries

 

[magra]

Thank you for at least acknowledging the discriminatory policy from India. Unless we acknowledge a problem, we cannot fix it (not that you and I are in any position to do anything).

But let me take another opportunity to pick on another point that you have made. This relates to the comment that "India is a natural home for Hindus/Sikhs and Muslims have so many Muslim countries to go to"

This is nothing more than subconsciously parroting the Sanghi narrative that has permeated the Indian narrative, more expressly in the last decade. That being, that India is a country for the Hindus, and Muslims have no place in it. The announcement from the MEA was another enforcement of this.

India is a country for Indians. Those Hindus who live in Afghanistan, South Africa, Caribbean, Malaysia etc have no "religious" right to be in India.

You are misunderstanding my words again.
I never said that Hindus have any 'religious' right to be in India.

But if Hindus / Sikhs / Jains etc anywhere on the globe are in real peril, which country can they afford to turn to if not India. Anyone in trouble seeks to be near people similar to them. India has the highest concentration of Hindus, Sikhs, Jains. So obviously, these persecuted people would feel safest in India than in any other country.

Coming to the question of Muslims. Now, we need to evaluate first whether these Muslims are in peril. If they are in peril, where do they want to go. You are assuming these Afghan muslims want to come to India rather than to go to Pakistan or Dubai or UK/ USA. Moreover, India being not a rich country and an overpopulated country cannot intake a large number of refugees. And in this case, India is under no obligation to take refugees because neither Afghanistan is our direct neighbor nor the mess is our creation.

I can't think of any other country in the world that has a religious test for refugees. What is more astonishing that is the majority of the country is okay with it (and so are you - based on your comments). Therefore, when I say "whitewashing", it is this kind of blatant discrimination that is given a pass by the larger society.

There are many countries with Muslim and Christian majorities.
For Hindus and Sikhs, India is the only country with majority (apart from tiny Nepal). So India becomes a natural home for these if they feel persecution in their home country.
This is similar to how Jews from all around the world gravitated to Israel after 2nd world war.

This does not mean that India should discriminate against Christians and Muslims. They should be evaluated for asylum on a case-by-case basis as well as needed. But as explained, the options available to Christians and Muslims are far greater.