We will crack Patriot missiles (Putin)

[BHAN85]

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-12-15/russia-threatens-u-s-against-sending-patriots-to-ukraine-an-escalation-of-the-conflict

Russia Threatens U.S. Against Sending Patriots to Ukraine: ‘An Escalation of the Conflict’​

Officials in Moscow warned the U.S. would get sucked into the war in Ukraine if it sends Kyiv a new sophisticated American missile system.

They said it was an escalation, now they think its just a minor nuisance and can be cracked. Which is it?

In the short term it will damage Russia.

In the long term it could damage USA customers of military expensive weapons.

If something like this story repeats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident with all the expensive western military hardware sent to Ukraine.

USA is protected by two oceans. Even if Russia reverse engineering and hack all American military hardware, it wont damage USA.

But customers like GCC, Japan, South Korea and Europe will be fck up.

No.

It's dangerous lack of imagination in these things.

Nobody imagined this before happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident

Except Iran.

Iran doesnt swallow American phallacies of authority, and arrogant lies.

And they were sucessful.

They did it because they didnt know it was impossible, like the famous quotes say

 

[Foinikas]

In the short term it will damage Russia.

In the long term it could damage USA customers of military expensive weapons.

If something like this story repeats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident with all the expensive western military hardware sent to Ukraine.

USA is protected by two oceans. Even if Russia reverse engineering and hack all American military hardware, it wont damage USA.

But customers like GCC, Japan, South Korea and Europe will be fck up.


It's dangerous lack of imagination in these things.

Nobody imagined this before happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident

Except Iran.

Iran doesnt swallow American phallacies of authority, and arrogant lies.

And they were sucessful.

They did it because they didnt know it was impossible, like the famous quotes say

Bro,the thing is that this might piss off the Russians. Because if I remember correctly,they had threatened with nuclear weapons if the Ukrainians got Patriot?

 

[BHAN85]

Bro,the thing is that this might piss off the Russians. Because if I remember correctly,they had threatened with nuclear weapons if the Ukrainians got Patriot?

I didnt see that.

But yes, Kremlin feelings about Patriot in Ukraine are mixed between angry and invigorated.

I think they should be happy.

Capture all the Western advanced weapons they can, and reverse engineer it. It's a gift to Russia.

In fact, I think USA wants war in Eurasia in general, and Europe in particular. It will be useful to decrease raw materials and energy consumption.

And they must prefer Europe victory, but in the worst case, a war with Russia victory is also something good to USA twisted interests.

 

[Foinikas]

Capture all the Western advanced weapons they can, and reverse engineer it. It's a gift to Russia.

In fact, I think USA wants war in Eurasia in general, and Europe in particular. It will be useful to decrease raw materials and energy consumption.

Bro so far the ones capturing equipment by the hundreds are the Ukrainians...

 

[BHAN85]

Bro so far the ones capturing equipment by the hundreds are the Ukrainians...

They need foreign help to reverse engineer it, so we see news about that.

Russia doesnt need help to reverse engineer it, and they dont need to publish news about that, they dont say a thing.

But non-news doesnt mean non-happened.

 

[Hack-Hook]

No. They couldn't crack the HIMARS and the patriot is another story all together.

himras is mobile patriot not so mobile . and don't forget if Yemen managed to destroy a patriot launcher , I wonder what stop Russia from doing so

In the short term it will damage Russia.

In the long term it could damage USA customers of military expensive weapons.

If something like this story repeats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident with all the expensive western military hardware sent to Ukraine.

USA is protected by two oceans. Even if Russia reverse engineering and hack all American military hardware, it wont damage USA.

But customers like GCC, Japan, South Korea and Europe will be fck up.

if such thing happen , they come and claim it was supposed to fell in enemy hand so we built it with of the shelf component and its not that advance

 

[RescueRanger]

Russia should just be quiet

 

[Hack-Hook]

They need foreign help to reverse engineer it, so we see news about that.

Russia doesnt need help to reverse engineer it, and they dont need to publish news about that, they dont say a thing.

But non-news doesnt mean non-happened.

the question is why reverse engineer it , i taught patriot at best is equal to S-300 and S-400

 

[Broccoli]

himras is mobile patriot not so mobile . and don't forget if Yemen managed to destroy a patriot launcher , I wonder what stop Russia from doing so


if such thing happen , they come and claim it was supposed to fell in enemy hand so we built it with of the shelf component and its not that advance

Russian recce capabilities are bad so they would be struggling to find Patriots stationed near Kyiv and has to rely on human spies.

 

[BHAN85]

the question is why reverse engineer it , i taught patriot at best is equal to S-300 and S-400

Copy is just one option.

Another are search for bugs and disable it remotely.

RQ-170 allowed Iran to copy it.

But it also allowed Iran to cleanly disable RQ-170 without waste own missiles.

Do you imagine a electronic warfare with the enemy knowing all the backdoors/bugs of expensive killing flying machines? You can disable a whole army with no economic cost for you.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Copy is just one option.

Another are search for bugs and disable it remotely.

RQ-170 allowed Iran to copy it.

But it also allowed Iran to cleanly disable RQ-170 without waste own missiles.

Do you imagine a electronic warfare with the enemy knowing all the backdoors/bugs of expensive killing flying machines? You can disable a whole army with no economic cost for you.

Iran was not producing anything in class of RQ-170 at the time so it benefitted Iran. russia is producing things in class of patriot .

 

[PakFactor]

Russia should just be quiet

As they say. The empty vessels make the most sound.

 

[BHAN85]

Iran was not producing anything in class of RQ-170 at the time so it benefitted Iran. russia is producing things in class of patriot .

I said, one useful thing from reverse engineering is copy things.

The another thing is search bugs and shoot down cheaply through electronic warfare, without waste own missiles.

The second is useful for any foe army of Western weapons customers.

Iran landed RQ-170 using only electronic warfare. Even without copy that technology, it's useful to shoot down without use missiles. Cost of land endless amount of RQ-170 for Iran through electronic warfare: zero.

Electronic warfare has no waste of bullets, of ammo, of missiles, of anything but electric energy.

If Russia reverse engineer all Western expensive advanced weapons, they could win a war with zero cost.

 

[Damir877]

They did kind of say that about HIMARS and M777 as well.From what can be seen both are still operational in significant numbers.The only thing Russians were able to capture in significant numbers are Javelin and NLAW launchers and missiles.
I assume we will soon see Russian made versions of both.

 

[Broccoli]

They did kind of say that about HIMARS and M777 as well.From what can be seen both are still operational in significant numbers.The only thing Russians were able to capture in significant numbers are Javelin and NLAW launchers and missiles.
I assume we will soon see Russian made versions of both.

If Russia could manufacture Javelin style top-attack ATGM it would have done so already on it's own.

Every Javelin requires somewhat sophisticated seeker and microchips.