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Valid points raised.

Its for the ppl of Pak to decide if they wish to brush Zia under the carpet or remember him to prevent another Zia emerging from the shadows to lead the country to darkness.


DAWN.COM | Columnists | We must never forget Ziaul Haq

By Kamran Shafi
Tuesday, 30 Mar, 2010


We are told that Ziaul Haq, yes the very same Ziaul Haq at whose door the responsibility of unleashing the demons responsible for most of our present travails can and should be placed, is to be excised from the nation’s history by his name being struck off the list of Pakistani presidents.

One has to immediately ask if this act will also take away the spectre of religious extremism that the man gave birth to and nurtured until it became a scourge that we Pakistanis have to face every moment of our lives; or that the baradari (clan) politics he (re-)introduced will simply go away; or that it will automatically rid the country of his horrendous Hudood Ordinances under which tens of poor women have been horribly violated and hundreds of our minority brothers and sisters have been murdered and tortured and jailed?

No, a thousand times no. Instead of removing his name from the squalid history of our poor country, Ziaul Haq’s name must be kept alive so that succeeding generations are reminded of the tyrant and his doings that so completely destroyed Pakistan and its social fabric.

Statues of the dictator, resplendent in his general’s uniform gongs, ribbons, medals, sashes, toshdans and all, should be raised in all the major cities of Pakistan with his crimes against the people inscribed in large letters on marble plaques at the base of the statues.

Rather than forgetting the man, the government should periodically run paid advertisements in the newspapers and on television stations enumerating his acts that have brought the country to near ruin.

Indeed, these ads could be run immediately after another heartrending bombing carried out by the religious terrorists who can rightly be called ‘Zia’s grandchildren’; bombings that kill and maim and terrorise even women and children. No, friends, we must never forget the dictator and what he did to us.

On to other matters; first to the NRO. Enough already, as the Americans say. I was absolutely against the NRO when it was first mooted as a way that would facilitate Benazir’s return to the country, as also the return of others from her party who had been charged with wrongdoing by Musharraf’s dictatorship.

It was akin to throwing the dictator a lifeline I thought, when he was weakened by the lawyers movement against the dismissal of the superior judiciary. In hindsight I was wrong: if there hadn’t been an NRO, Musharraf would still have been sitting at the top of the heap; the political parties would still have been out in the cold, and let alone being restored, the judges would still have been under house arrest.

No NRO, no giving up his uniform (his ‘second skin’, remember?), no political parties; no political parties, no elections; no elections, no parliament; no parliament, no political manoeuvring; no political manoeuvring, no long march; no long march, no restoration of judges, and so on and on and on.

Seriously, does anyone think that Musharraf could have been dislodged by the lawyers backed by a handful of ‘civil society’? On deep reflection, I think not. So, enough already on the NRO. The point has been made that it was a bad law: can we just let go of it now; give elected people the chance to complete their terms and the people the chance to vote them out in the next election? As I have said before, if this government does not complete its term, neither will the next.

And another thing. Will everyone stop hounding the so-called ‘NRO beneficiaries’? Everyone and Charlie’s Aunt knows that in most cases trumped-up charges were made against their detractors by successive Pakistani governments, dictatorships and others.

However, if those who are demanding action now that the NRO has been declared null and void feel they must go on regardless, it is their moral duty to also demand that the armed forces and the judiciary be made accountable under the same accountability laws too. Let us have no holy cows.

Enough already on the Kerry-Lugar Bill, now law, too. Look at it this way: since the army high command which started it all (‘furious’ was a term used to describe the feelings of the brass hats), has just been to Washington D.C. and sued (as in beg for something) for this and that and the other, is it not time that others who thought that the Kerry-Lugar law took away Pakistan’s ‘sovereignty’ stopped criticising it? It is a perfectly worded law, may it live long.

A word on the judicial crisis. The slapping of a senior civil judge (in court, mark) by a lawyer in Faisalabad, and before that the thrashing of journalists and police officials by other lawyers in the Lahore courts, should make it very clear to My Lords of the superior judiciary that the sense of conquering all before them is turning very ugly indeed.

It ought to be realised that lawyers are not storm-troopers, ready to attack all comers, even judges sitting on the bench, at the slightest provocation. This will not happen unless it is realised that lawyers, as also the judiciary, are mortal too, that they are not all-powerful. And this will not happen unless the judiciary sets parameters for itself and says clearly that there are matters of governance that should be left to the elected parliament and the government that comes from parliament.

The judiciary should look back and see the trials and tribulations it has come through, the many ups and downs it has seen, mainly downs. It should look back and see the many episodes that did not exactly paint it in a kindly light, more than anything else the judicial murder of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto at the behest of the man we must never forget.

It needs to understand more than anything else that it was only a civilian dispensation that gave it back the freedom so cruelly taken from it by an army dictator. The very best start to this will be My Lord the Chief Justice immediately recusing himself and his office from any committee set up to appoint judges. If he sends the message that parliament, which embodies the peoples will is supreme, he will go down in history as a truly great man.
 
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i liked that guy... sadly his efforts were overshadowed by the politics... atleast he did more for the country than mush!!!!
 
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i liked that guy... sadly his efforts were overshadowed by the politics... atleast he did more for the country than mush!!!!

Seriously? He really did more for Pakistan. He gave us the greatest gifts of all. Militancy, increased US and Saudi influence, Kalashnikov culture, 5 million Afghan refugees, increased (and ever increasing) opium and drug trade and what not.
 
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Yeah! He should be remembered for his "great efforts". Why removed his name? His name should be the first in the list so that our upcoming generations could remember this devil forever.
 
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There are things good and bad about Zia. Or one can say the bads takeover the goods of a person. But anyhow the Question Must we never forget Zia? is valid and to learn from History and our past experiences, we mustn't forget the weak points of our policies lest others use them again.

Not only Zia but similarly Ayub, Yahya and Even Musharraf.

Bad and good qualities should always be remembered, must continue the goods done without discrimination anbd biasness, and should try to avoid the bads at all costs.

KIT Over
 
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Seriously? He really did more for Pakistan. He gave us the greatest gifts of all. Militancy, increased US and Saudi influence, Kalashnikov culture, 5 million Afghan refugees, increased (and ever increasing) opium and drug trade and what not.
Did you had any other choice rather then not going to war with russia??? with russians knocking at your door??

militancy n opium etc definitely sprung up but it was due to untimely death of his n civilian govt.s after him didnt manage to handle the afghan issue. If it would've been handled properly by them things would've been different.

After Liaqat Ali Khan can you name any one leader/dictator in pakistan's history on whose character fingers cant be raised??? apart from malik mairaj khalid n zia???
 
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This sums it all up

Statues of the dictator, resplendent in his general’s uniform gongs, ribbons, medals, sashes, toshdans and all, should be raised in all the major cities of Pakistan with his crimes against the people inscribed in large letters on marble plaques at the base of the statues.

Rather than forgetting the man, the government should periodically run paid advertisements in the newspapers and on television stations enumerating his acts that have brought the country to near ruin.

Indeed, these ads could be run immediately after another heartrending bombing carried out by the religious terrorists who can rightly be called ‘Zia’s grandchildren’; bombings that kill and maim and terrorise even women and children. No, friends, we must never forget the dictator and what he did to us.
 
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militancy n opium etc definitely sprung up but it was due to untimely death of his n civilian govt.s after him didnt manage to handle the afghan issue. If it would've been handled properly by them things would've been different.
The military backed its ever ready idea of finding proxies and supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan. We made them our proxies and the hegemonic ambitions gave its proponents the goody feeling of power. Supporting the Taliban only backfired for us. Alongwith our every ready militancy supporting friend Saudi Arabia, we were the only countries to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government in Afghanistan and supported their armed campaign throughout the civil war.

Zia ul Haq did more damage ideologically, politically, economically, religiously and socially to this nation than all others could have combined to do so.. I won't like going into much debate. We clearly have polarized opinions and his glorification in our curriculum books only leads people to argue irrationally when evaluating him.

After Liaqat Ali Khan can you name any one leader/dictator in pakistan's history on whose character fingers cant be raised??? apart from malik mairaj khalid n zia???
Without going into the debate whether they were "leaders" or not, the following people occupied the slots of the head of the executive or head of the state and were hardly controversial:-

  1. Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry
  2. Nurul Amin
  3. Feroz Khan Noon
  4. Muhammad Khan Junejo
 
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As i said elsewhere, successive governments of the day implement their policies as they deem fit. Albeit it may have transpired during his tenure but entirely blaming Zia for the so called Kalashnikov or Heroine culture is unjust as these were a snow ball effect after Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. If anything we should remember him as the man who ensured for Pakistan to cross the nuclear threshold while the world's attention was diverted towards Afghanistan and also for his cricket diplomacy with India and the verdict he delivered upon Rajiv Gandhi.
He was also the leader, who after decades of sanctions, managed to secure the release of American Arms including the first batch of F-16s much to Indra Gandhi's disappointment.
 
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One thing that I can ascertain from this is the fact that all secularists hate Zia. And idiotically place all blame for the ills in society on him.

What's ironic is that None of their proofs have any factual basis. It's pure sloganeering and propaganda that we often hear in the PPP's camps.


Drug culture is one example that the secularists use. It happens due to open border with Afghanistan, so long's the border is open drugs will continue to flow into Pakistan. Literally impossible to close the border.


These are the same people that provide the much needed cloud for nefariously corrupt and incompetent political leaders.


Beating a dead horse serves them very well as it diverts public attention from the REAL issues of today.
 
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As i said elsewhere, successive governments of the day implement their policies as they deem fit. Albeit it may have transpired during his tenure but entirely blaming Zia for the so called Kalashnikov or Heroine culture is unjust as these were a snow ball effect after Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. If anything we should remember him as the man who ensured for Pakistan to cross the nuclear threshold while the world's attention was diverted towards Afghanistan and also for his cricket diplomacy with India and the verdict he delivered upon Rajiv Gandhi.
He was also the leader, who after decades of sanctions, managed to secure the release of American Arms including the first batch of F-16s much to Indra Gandhi's disappointment.

Sir, i suggest that we should look at the motivation and reasons for bashing Zia ul Haq constantly by these media personell and figures.

THey'll completely overlook all the good things he has done for Pakistan. But that's one of their purpose. Beating a dead horse apparently hides away their sins and wrongdoings from Public's minds temporarily.



PPP used to distribute anti-Zia pamphlets back in the days, rather than opening educational or health centres to serve the public or to build their reputation on, my uncle who was a PPP insider told me once, he quit PPP for good a while back.
 
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make his statue put it at all airports during haj season, make sure every pakistani going for haj gets to stone his statue three times before boarding the aircraft
 
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As i said elsewhere, successive governments of the day implement their policies as they deem fit. Albeit it may have transpired during his tenure but entirely blaming Zia for the so called Kalashnikov or Heroine culture is unjust as these were a snow ball effect after Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. If anything we should remember him as the man who ensured for Pakistan to cross the nuclear threshold while the world's attention was diverted towards Afghanistan and also for his cricket diplomacy with India and the verdict he delivered upon Rajiv Gandhi.
He was also the leader, who after decades of sanctions, managed to secure the release of American Arms including the first batch of F-16s much to Indra Gandhi's disappointment.

The US looked the other way as we developed our nuclear program, but was it enough that we bleeded only this out of the US? It is similar to our cooperation with the US in the WoT. We could have negotiated for far more from them.

Somehow the opium trade is rejected as a legitimate argument. Militant organizations and armed rebels have used drug trade and extortion throughout the world to fund their campaigns. The Taliban use it and justify producing opium and selling drugs.

Without going into how a 90 day promise turned into a 3623 day rule that only ended with his sad demise (SC validation is in invalid argument as he promised 90 days himself), Zia's shadow was visible in us trying to produce proxies for the struggle in Kashmir throughout the '90s.

The point on the F-16s is valid and duly noted.
 
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What's ironic is that None of their proofs have any factual basis. It's pure sloganeering and propaganda that we often hear in the PPP's camps.
Yes, the oppose him but so do independent minded people.


Drug culture is one example that the secularists use. It happens due to open border with Afghanistan, so long's the border is open drugs will continue to flow into Pakistan. Literally impossible to close the border.
As I said in the post above, Taliban have used and continue to use drug money and extortion to fund their campaigns. They are involved heavily in it and we have been huge victims of our support of the Taliban, not to mention the uncontrolled influx of refugees unlike Iran which controlled them.


These are the same people that provide the much needed cloud for nefariously corrupt and incompetent political leaders.
The usual pointless digression off the topic. Saying A is wrong does not mean one is justifying B.

Beating a dead horse serves them very well as it diverts public attention from the REAL issues of today.
Discussing the ghost of Zia is not diverting attention from the real issues of today. There are much more extensive debates going on the forums regarding present and future issues.
 
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