We could have inflicted heavy damage on Pakistan during aerial raid if we had 'tech asymmetry': IAF

[nomi007]

its called '' RUNDI RONA''

 

[Mugwop]

Where is the second pilot?

Where is tech asymmetry?

 

[M.Kamran_Pak]

Strangely, the "holes" appear exactly along the center-line of the roof. I wonder if there is a simpler explanation for that.

So IAF is now new Star Trek.....

 

[loanranger]

How are the IAF officers living with themselves....the lies the fake awards deaths not acknowledged friendly fire....
They have got their plates full... Almost feel sorry for them .

 

[Aadi_1591]

NEW DELHI: If the Indian Air Force possessed high levels of "technological asymmetry", then it would have been able to inflict heavy damage on Pakistan during its unsuccessful aerial raid on February 27, according to an IAF report.

The report analysed various aspects of IAF's air strike on a Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) terrorist training camp in Pakistan's Balakot on February 26 and the subsequent Pakistani retaliation the next day.

India carried out the air strike to avenge the Pulwama attack in which 40 CRPF personnel were killed.

In the report, the IAF said Pakistan Air Force has been consistently enhancing its air defence and offensive capabilities since the Kargil war in 1999 and there was a need for India to bolster its "technological asymmetry" for aerial combat, official sources said sharing details from the report.

At present, Pakistan has some edge with its fleet of F-16 jets with AMRAAM missile fitted with them, said an official.

The sources said the planned induction of Rafale aircraft with deadly Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) and S-400 air defence missile system will provide India a significant advantage over Pakistani Air Force.


"We felt we could not punish the adversaries appropriately. So we need to bolster technological asymmetry so that the enemy does not even dare to come close to the border," said a source.

On the Balakot strikes, the report said the Israeli Spice 2000 precision guided munitions (PGM) fired from Mirage 2000 jets hit five out of the six designated targets in the JeM training facility. However, one Spice PGM did not leave the aircraft because of a drift in the inertial navigation system.

The report said the deception used was successful as Pakistan was caught off guard despite their air force being put on highest alert.
Various packages of jets flew in several directions including a fleet of Jaguars went towards Bahawalpur, a key air base of Pakistan Air Force, sources said.

In the list of possitives from the strike, the IAF talked about accuracy of intelligence inputs, precise selection of targets, demonstration of its ability to carry out precision strikes and its success in maintaining secrecy of the operation though over 6,000 personnel were involved in it.

In its analysis of possible areas for improvement, the IAF sought superior technological asymmetry and air defence system over Pakistan, sources said.

It also talked about the need for procuring new weapons and other platforms for enhancing the IAF's overall combat capabilities.

Induction of Rafale jets along with Meteor beyond-visual-range missile and S-400 air defence missile system will provide India an edge over Pakistan, according to the report.

India is procuring a batch of S-400 air defence system from Russia at a cost of USD 5 billion. India is also buying 36 Rafale fighter jets from France at a cost of Rs 58,000 crore.

During the aerial combat of February 27, IAF pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani F-16s and shot it down before his Mig-21 Bison was downed.

Varthaman was captured by Pakistan and was released after spending nearly 60 hours in Pakistani custody.

The Indian Air Force had on February 28 displayed pieces of an AMRAAM missile, fired by a Pakistani F-16, as evidence to prove that Pakistan deployed the US-manufactured fighter jets during the raid.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...d-tech-asymmetry-iaf/articleshow/69043545.cms


R77, MKI, Mirage?

could have, would have, butts ifs indians are cold hard loosers

 

[GumNaam]

is india crying the shoulda coulda woulda randi rona again thru the new bunghole Pakistan ripped in india's black arse?

 

[Clearly]

If .. yeah many things were possible if..

 

[Mrc]

If we had flying saucers with phasers. ..... .

 

[The Eagle]

I knew that will have to adopt the practice to remind again & again and repeat to our neighbor hence, I have somehow managed to keep account of few mentions/references made from Indian side since 26/2. These accounts/references are based upon events/occasions where Indian Civil/Military/Media have been taking part in their respective domain while being on totally different pages but somehow succeeded to create much needed diversion to calm Indian populace as well as downplay the losses under a falsified event of shooting down an F-16. Here it is...

In-fact on that night when IAF was able to count 300+ bodies; proven out to be there was no target except to run while dropping in hast. Give it a rest & take an off. Beside foreign sources, nobody is buying here what you are trying to sell. Copy paste posts to raise count and nothing else.

There was no target to prove but, the real target was to create never ending confusion, claim with lies without any proof, repeat the same rants & keep insisting that everyone gets tired to debunk those lies.

• It started with stolen pictures when Planet Earth has to intervene & expose,
• then went on to share an under construction building which too was exposed,
• then came the whole set of claim that IAF never cross LoC but used SOW,
• then it was made before public that IAF couldn't reach the point due to heavy wind in opposite direction,
• then came Indian DM openly/on the record relying on social media & random pictures,
• then came the claim that India did not intend to cause casualties rather delivered the message,
• then again there are casualties,
• then Spice is a bomb which in fact not the case,
• then claimed that Spice is a whole set of AI which goes inside building and eliminates targets without causing any damage to the structure/burns,
• then came that this is not the place India hit,
• then came that there were clouds on the that day and missing imagery,
• then came that we did not attack infrastructure to minimize any possible civilian casualty and above all,
• when all the foreign observers are brought to the claimed impact point, area & shown the infrastructure; they all are biased & sided with Pakistan or doesn't have the intellect capacity like India.
• and now it is about that one Spice PGM did not leave the aircraft because of a drift in the inertial navigation system.

I have been saying this before and I will repeat that such kind of destruction & casualties in area as such which is not a Military Zone/Cantt, its not possible to hide anything especially in this day & age of Mobile Phones everywhere.

If any Indian wants to vote Modi, no issue but at-least spare us from all this in good faith and for the sake of humanity.

The list of Indian lies continues & I can recount very few here due to unlimited of them.

• PAF used jamming/EW tactics.
• Anhinandan couldn't listen to ground control hence, went inside Pakistan.
• Radar imagery shows Abhinandan in Mirpur but he was shot down in Bhimbir and arrested there.
• AWACS were at changeover/Turn around shift but images? really.
• IAF had the so-called electronic reading of PAF F-16 but interestingly, couldn't recognize their own MI-17V5 in Budgam.
• Comms jammed/EW active that couldn't recognize their own MI-17 heli but recorded all this that too when AWACS were not there (Hindustan Times reported).
• Pakistan recovered all 4 AAM of MIG-21 from its debris and there is no counter argument instead, IAF keeps repeating drama based upon lies.
• They heard Pakistan Military comms but Abhinandan & IAF Ground Control remained totally deaf & found dumb.
• Only two slides being shared but excuse is made due to security reasons. How could it be a security reason when PAF fleet is complete as all F-16s are accounted for by foreign source.
• It took almost 7 weeks for IAF to come up with what? Just couple of AWACS radar images & readings which more seems to be a good CGI work than real time data recording.
• IAF found a piece of AMRAAM & claimed the downing which ended with that India only highlights the use of F-16 only.

It is literally takes such stamina to lie continuously but I will give it to Modi propaganda house for being consistent & turning Indian Military into a political office for election campaign.

Wait a minute as . Undecided.

• Balakot was not hit but then again, 300+ were killed. Indian Media Mistake.
• BJP says no casualties were intended hence, no kill but delivered the message. Minister Mistake.
• IAF did not reach Balakot but SOW launched due to wind. Nature Mistake.
• Spice-2000 is an AI bomb, goes in without crater damage & eliminate targets. Alleged Camp Mistake.
• Spice 2000 is not a Bomb but a Kit. Professionals Mistake.
• Initial provided Balakot SAT images proven fake/stolen. Google Earth etc Mistake.
• Indian FM relies on SAT images on Social Media, proven wrong/old. Social Media Mistake.
• PAF retaliated at Six Points inside IoK. Israeli Defence Equipment Mistake.
• India doesn't have Rafale to counter PAF. France Mistake.
• MI-17V5 was hit by Israeli SAM.. Israeli Mistake.
• MI-17V5 pilot did not follow SOP claimed six lives. Pilot Mistake.
• Abhinandan did not follow SOP & disobeyed direct orders. Abhinandan Mistake.
• All Indian AWACs were in shift change/Turn around/Change over/Tarmac. AWACs mistake.
• No AWACs but images are available, proven to be doctored. Photo Shop Mistake.
• An AMRAAM Piece is found & not the F-16 wreckage/loss/even a single bolt. PAF Mistake.
• Int'l Observers confirms PAF F-16 fleet count/all accounted for. US, Pentagon, Source Mistake.
• Sweden provided SAAB AW&EC birds. Sweden Mistake.
• F-16 were used. US Mistake.
• SU MKI can dodge 6 AMRAAMs but did not take a single shot. Russian Mistake.
• SU-30 MKI crashed on the same time/day & claimed to be Tech Failure. Russian Mistake.
• Abhinandan did not fire single missile. PAF or Russia Mistake.
• Alan Warnes interviewed CAS, provided with Proof. Alan Warnes mistake.

See India has nothing to do with this all as it is always others mistake. So, I am merely trying to keep the track record of all these claims or call it Indian Facts or meal for domestic consumption along with rants for budget raise in the mix of establishing foundation of confessions to avoid full blown humiliation by not clearly stating the facts in regard to losses into hands of PAF.

This thread aged well and still a subtle reminder that India didn't achieve anything except Modi becoming PM again. Also, a proof how India started to accept failures but slowly and after time when Indians would have already forgotten all this.

 

[GumNaam]

NEW DELHI: If the Indian Air Force possessed high levels of "technological asymmetry", then it would have been able to inflict heavy damage on Pakistan during its unsuccessful aerial raid on February 27, according to an IAF report.

The report analysed various aspects of IAF's air strike on a Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) terrorist training camp in Pakistan's Balakot on February 26 and the subsequent Pakistani retaliation the next day.

India carried out the air strike to avenge the Pulwama attack in which 40 CRPF personnel were killed.

In the report, the IAF said Pakistan Air Force has been consistently enhancing its air defence and offensive capabilities since the Kargil war in 1999 and there was a need for India to bolster its "technological asymmetry" for aerial combat, official sources said sharing details from the report.

At present, Pakistan has some edge with its fleet of F-16 jets with AMRAAM missile fitted with them, said an official.

The sources said the planned induction of Rafale aircraft with deadly Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) and S-400 air defence missile system will provide India a significant advantage over Pakistani Air Force.


"We felt we could not punish the adversaries appropriately. So we need to bolster technological asymmetry so that the enemy does not even dare to come close to the border," said a source.

On the Balakot strikes, the report said the Israeli Spice 2000 precision guided munitions (PGM) fired from Mirage 2000 jets hit five out of the six designated targets in the JeM training facility. However, one Spice PGM did not leave the aircraft because of a drift in the inertial navigation system.

The report said the deception used was successful as Pakistan was caught off guard despite their air force being put on highest alert.
Various packages of jets flew in several directions including a fleet of Jaguars went towards Bahawalpur, a key air base of Pakistan Air Force, sources said.

In the list of possitives from the strike, the IAF talked about accuracy of intelligence inputs, precise selection of targets, demonstration of its ability to carry out precision strikes and its success in maintaining secrecy of the operation though over 6,000 personnel were involved in it.

In its analysis of possible areas for improvement, the IAF sought superior technological asymmetry and air defence system over Pakistan, sources said.

It also talked about the need for procuring new weapons and other platforms for enhancing the IAF's overall combat capabilities.

Induction of Rafale jets along with Meteor beyond-visual-range missile and S-400 air defence missile system will provide India an edge over Pakistan, according to the report.

India is procuring a batch of S-400 air defence system from Russia at a cost of USD 5 billion. India is also buying 36 Rafale fighter jets from France at a cost of Rs 58,000 crore.

During the aerial combat of February 27, IAF pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani F-16s and shot it down before his Mig-21 Bison was downed.

Varthaman was captured by Pakistan and was released after spending nearly 60 hours in Pakistani custody.

The Indian Air Force had on February 28 displayed pieces of an AMRAAM missile, fired by a Pakistani F-16, as evidence to prove that Pakistan deployed the US-manufactured fighter jets during the raid.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...d-tech-asymmetry-iaf/articleshow/69043545.cms


R77, MKI, Mirage?

isreali phalcon awacs & isreali spyder sams? they seem to forget that it will only be the PAF that will be dishing out punishment in this region, we should remind them.

another iaf media barf to screw the starving indian masses out of money!

 

[Trango Towers]

If I had the US airforce under my command I could have single handedly destroyed the Indian airforce

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

isreali phalcon awacs & isreali spyder sams? they seem to forget that it will only be the PAF that will be dishing out punishment in this region, we should remind them.

another iaf media barf to screw the starving indian masses out of money!

By the by, the Jewish folks, by definition, never accept defeat.......

 

[GumNaam]

By the by, the Jewish folks, by definition, never accept defeat.......

of course they won't. admitting defeat would mean that the propaganda they've been selling in the west of being the "superior" race will fall flat in its face.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

of course they won't. admitting defeat would mean that the propaganda they've been selling in the west of being the "superior" race will fall flat in its face.

It's the same problem with these I'countries!!! Hence, they're at the receiving end of insults most of the time by HIS WILL.....

 

[CatSultan]

NEW DELHI: If the Indian Air Force possessed high levels of "technological asymmetry", then it would have been able to inflict heavy damage on Pakistan during its unsuccessful aerial raid on February 27, according to an IAF report.

The report analysed various aspects of IAF's air strike on a Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) terrorist training camp in Pakistan's Balakot on February 26 and the subsequent Pakistani retaliation the next day.

India carried out the air strike to avenge the Pulwama attack in which 40 CRPF personnel were killed.

In the report, the IAF said Pakistan Air Force has been consistently enhancing its air defence and offensive capabilities since the Kargil war in 1999 and there was a need for India to bolster its "technological asymmetry" for aerial combat, official sources said sharing details from the report.

At present, Pakistan has some edge with its fleet of F-16 jets with AMRAAM missile fitted with them, said an official.

The sources said the planned induction of Rafale aircraft with deadly Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) and S-400 air defence missile system will provide India a significant advantage over Pakistani Air Force.


"We felt we could not punish the adversaries appropriately. So we need to bolster technological asymmetry so that the enemy does not even dare to come close to the border," said a source.

On the Balakot strikes, the report said the Israeli Spice 2000 precision guided munitions (PGM) fired from Mirage 2000 jets hit five out of the six designated targets in the JeM training facility. However, one Spice PGM did not leave the aircraft because of a drift in the inertial navigation system.

The report said the deception used was successful as Pakistan was caught off guard despite their air force being put on highest alert.
Various packages of jets flew in several directions including a fleet of Jaguars went towards Bahawalpur, a key air base of Pakistan Air Force, sources said.

In the list of possitives from the strike, the IAF talked about accuracy of intelligence inputs, precise selection of targets, demonstration of its ability to carry out precision strikes and its success in maintaining secrecy of the operation though over 6,000 personnel were involved in it.

In its analysis of possible areas for improvement, the IAF sought superior technological asymmetry and air defence system over Pakistan, sources said.

It also talked about the need for procuring new weapons and other platforms for enhancing the IAF's overall combat capabilities.

Induction of Rafale jets along with Meteor beyond-visual-range missile and S-400 air defence missile system will provide India an edge over Pakistan, according to the report.

India is procuring a batch of S-400 air defence system from Russia at a cost of USD 5 billion. India is also buying 36 Rafale fighter jets from France at a cost of Rs 58,000 crore.

During the aerial combat of February 27, IAF pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani F-16s and shot it down before his Mig-21 Bison was downed.

Varthaman was captured by Pakistan and was released after spending nearly 60 hours in Pakistani custody.

The Indian Air Force had on February 28 displayed pieces of an AMRAAM missile, fired by a Pakistani F-16, as evidence to prove that Pakistan deployed the US-manufactured fighter jets during the raid.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...d-tech-asymmetry-iaf/articleshow/69043545.cms


R77, MKI, Mirage?

The s-400 sucks I think we saw that Libya, Syria and Armenia.