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We could have inflicted heavy damage on Pakistan during aerial raid if we had 'tech asymmetry': IAF

I knew that will have to adopt the practice to remind again & again and repeat to our neighbor hence, I have somehow managed to keep account of few mentions/references made from Indian side since 26/2. These accounts/references are based upon events/occasions where Indian Civil/Military/Media have been taking part in their respective domain while being on totally different pages but somehow succeeded to create much needed diversion to calm Indian populace as well as downplay the losses under a falsified event of shooting down an F-16. Here it is...

In-fact on that night when IAF was able to count 300+ bodies; proven out to be there was no target except to run while dropping in hast. Give it a rest & take an off. Beside foreign sources, nobody is buying here what you are trying to sell. Copy paste posts to raise count and nothing else.

There was no target to prove but, the real target was to create never ending confusion, claim with lies without any proof, repeat the same rants & keep insisting that everyone gets tired to debunk those lies.

  • It started with stolen pictures when Planet Earth has to intervene & expose,
  • then went on to share an under construction building which too was exposed,
  • then came the whole set of claim that IAF never cross LoC but used SOW,
  • then it was made before public that IAF couldn't reach the point due to heavy wind in opposite direction,
  • then came Indian DM openly/on the record relying on social media & random pictures,
  • then came the claim that India did not intend to cause casualties rather delivered the message,
  • then again there are casualties,
  • then Spice is a bomb which in fact not the case,
  • then claimed that Spice is a whole set of AI which goes inside building and eliminates targets without causing any damage to the structure/burns,
  • then came that this is not the place India hit,
  • then came that there were clouds on the that day and missing imagery,
  • then came that we did not attack infrastructure to minimize any possible civilian casualty and above all,
  • when all the foreign observers are brought to the claimed impact point, area & shown the infrastructure; they all are biased & sided with Pakistan or doesn't have the intellect capacity like India.
  • and now it is about that one Spice PGM did not leave the aircraft because of a drift in the inertial navigation system.

I have been saying this before and I will repeat that such kind of destruction & casualties in area as such which is not a Military Zone/Cantt, its not possible to hide anything especially in this day & age of Mobile Phones everywhere.

If any Indian wants to vote Modi, no issue but at-least spare us from all this in good faith and for the sake of humanity.

The list of Indian lies continues & I can recount very few here due to unlimited of them.

  • PAF used jamming/EW tactics.
  • Anhinandan couldn't listen to ground control hence, went inside Pakistan.
  • Radar imagery shows Abhinandan in Mirpur but he was shot down in Bhimbir and arrested there.
  • AWACS were at changeover/Turn around shift but images? really.
  • IAF had the so-called electronic reading of PAF F-16 but interestingly, couldn't recognize their own MI-17V5 in Budgam.
  • Comms jammed/EW active that couldn't recognize their own MI-17 heli but recorded all this that too when AWACS were not there (Hindustan Times reported).
  • Pakistan recovered all 4 AAM of MIG-21 from its debris and there is no counter argument instead, IAF keeps repeating drama based upon lies.
  • They heard Pakistan Military comms but Abhinandan & IAF Ground Control remained totally deaf & found dumb.
  • Only two slides being shared but excuse is made due to security reasons. How could it be a security reason when PAF fleet is complete as all F-16s are accounted for by foreign source.
  • It took almost 7 weeks for IAF to come up with what? Just couple of AWACS radar images & readings which more seems to be a good CGI work than real time data recording.
  • IAF found a piece of AMRAAM & claimed the downing which ended with that India only highlights the use of F-16 only.
It is literally takes such stamina to lie continuously but I will give it to Modi propaganda house for being consistent & turning Indian Military into a political office for election campaign.

Wait a minute as . Undecided.

  • Balakot was not hit but then again, 300+ were killed. Indian Media Mistake.
  • BJP says no casualties were intended hence, no kill but delivered the message. Minister Mistake.
  • IAF did not reach Balakot but SOW launched due to wind. Nature Mistake.
  • Spice-2000 is an AI bomb, goes in without crater damage & eliminate targets. Alleged Camp Mistake.
  • Spice 2000 is not a Bomb but a Kit. Professionals Mistake.
  • Initial provided Balakot SAT images proven fake/stolen. Google Earth etc Mistake.
  • Indian FM relies on SAT images on Social Media, proven wrong/old. Social Media Mistake.
  • PAF retaliated at Six Points inside IoK. Israeli Defence Equipment Mistake.
  • India doesn't have Rafale to counter PAF. France Mistake.
  • MI-17V5 was hit by Israeli SAM.. Israeli Mistake.
  • MI-17V5 pilot did not follow SOP claimed six lives. Pilot Mistake.
  • Abhinandan did not follow SOP & disobeyed direct orders. Abhinandan Mistake.
  • All Indian AWACs were in shift change/Turn around/Change over/Tarmac. AWACs mistake.
  • No AWACs but images are available, proven to be doctored. Photo Shop Mistake.
  • An AMRAAM Piece is found & not the F-16 wreckage/loss/even a single bolt. PAF Mistake.
  • Int'l Observers confirms PAF F-16 fleet count/all accounted for. US, Pentagon, Source Mistake.
  • Sweden provided SAAB AW&EC birds. Sweden Mistake.
  • F-16 were used. US Mistake.
  • SU MKI can dodge 6 AMRAAMs but did not take a single shot. Russian Mistake.
  • SU-30 MKI crashed on the same time/day & claimed to be Tech Failure. Russian Mistake.
  • Abhinandan did not fire single missile. PAF or Russia Mistake.
  • Alan Warnes interviewed CAS, provided with Proof. Alan Warnes mistake.

See India has nothing to do with this all as it is always others mistake. So, I am merely trying to keep the track record of all these claims or call it Indian Facts or meal for domestic consumption along with rants for budget raise in the mix of establishing foundation of confessions to avoid full blown humiliation by not clearly stating the facts in regard to losses into hands of PAF.

Su30 MKI mini AW&EC failed, Russia mistake.
 
It looks like all your information from Balakot has come from the Internet and not official sources.

I agree that couldn't keep track for every single presser or claims coming from India be it Political Leadership, Military or Online Analysts. However, any addition is welcome. Most of these claims are being made by officials and Internet is only source to read such news as compare to print media which wouldn't be able to write everything. Care to share further statements? I merely tried to gather everything any Indian says bet it online unknown officials, known & declared officials as well as Military statements.

Su30 MKI mini AW&EC failed, Russia mistake.

Well, I will call it keyboard warriors mistake.

You call it JeM camp, we call it Madrassa, Intl Media saw it as Madrasa....so each to his own understanding.....bottom line is building intact, madrassa is still open and running.....students are still there.....so the bottom line is even after India and it's Armed Forces going through a shit storm of humiliation at the international platform achieved nothing.....i get it you folks are frustrated

Well, firstly Planet Earth has to expose them by stating otherwise and then pictures of under construction building of Girls Higher Secondary School were shared but proven propaganda and in the end, I think it was stated that there were too many clouds on that day hence, Sat couldn't take picture while Pakistan being lucky. What make you or anyone else think that we can counter or even argue such approach.
 
@The Eagle correct me if am wrong but i have read two news articles on same news, none of the two mentioned F-16 kill as positive :what:.....after all that was their ‘official’ randi rona since day 1
Kia ye khula tazad nhn?:rolleyes:
 
@The Eagle correct me if am wrong but i have read two news articles on same news, none of the two mentioned F-16 kill as positive :what:.....after all that was their ‘official’ randi rona since day 1
Kia ye khula tazad nhn?:rolleyes:

That is the point here. Even, they have no some Israeli secrete team (claimed on some online feel good place) to prove F-16 kill in view of available DATA/Radar. The genius author even forgot that IAF already claimed it by showing a piece of AMRAAM though, being laughed at. So AWACS drawings are too confessed as some troll attempt hence, Israelis to invent some in this regard.
 
So you read anything on the Internet and you believe it. And then you call me a fool. Talk about clueless.

Most of what Eagle posted has nothing to do with the Indian govt or IAF.
You're a strange sort of guy, you know that? Do you all suffer from some sort of genetic mental disorder?

You call it JeM camp, we call it Madrassa, Intl Media saw it as Madrasa....so each to his own understanding.....bottom line is building intact, madrassa is still open and running.....students are still there.....so the bottom line is even after India and it's Armed Forces going through a shit storm of humiliation at the international platform achieved nothing.....i get it you folks are frustrated
Utterly frustrated, to the point they resort to fantasy in their rundi rona state.
 
They are classified but there are many other images on the net and media.
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Only blind idiots can interpret the image to see their imagination. Its no better than people seeing god name in clouds.

https://graphics.reuters.com/INDIA-KASHMIR/010090XM162/index.html

Look at the images in the link and that image is than verified by their ground visit.
 
I agree that couldn't keep track for every single presser or claims coming from India be it Political Leadership, Military or Online Analysts. However, any addition is welcome. Most of these claims are being made by officials and Internet is only source to read such news as compare to print media which wouldn't be able to write everything. Care to share further statements? I merely tried to gather everything any Indian says bet it online unknown officials, known & declared officials as well as Military statements.

There are very few things that have actually come out in the open.

Here's a quote from someone very reliable:
True, inaccuracies being the operative word for the whole episode in public domain.

This is in reference to everything that's happened since the Balakot strikes.

So all you are doing is trying to link up made up stories to the GoI. Official info released by India has only been extremely limited, and through press conferences, primarily by the IAF. Pretty much everything else you have heard is simply unsubstantiated. Most media houses are latching on to anything they can find "from sources" and release it hoping that it will turn out to be true. There's no penalty for fake news after all. Even most politicians, save a few, like opposition leaders, know the full story. And those who know aren't talking.

All reliable news from India has come only from the IAF press conferences. Everything else is simply unsubstantiated. So look up whatever IAF said and that's the Indian story.

At the end of the day, one airforce is quietly celebrating and the other is offering official excuses publicly one after the other.

What excuses?
 
If IAF is not even capable to hit some undefended tin sheds, perhaps India needs to invest in mercenary pilots rather than more fancy gadgets to merely do stupendous artistry over the Rashtrapati Bhavan.
May I suggest for the mercenaries - the Last Afgans.....
 
There are very few things that have actually come out in the open.

Here's a quote from someone very reliable:
True, inaccuracies being the operative word for the whole episode in public domain.

This is in reference to everything that's happened since the Balakot strikes.

So all you are doing is trying to link up made up stories to the GoI. Official info released by India has only been extremely limited, and through press conferences, primarily by the IAF. Pretty much everything else you have heard is simply unsubstantiated. Most media houses are latching on to anything they can find "from sources" and release it hoping that it will turn out to be true. There's no penalty for fake news after all. Even most politicians, save a few, like opposition leaders, know the full story. And those who know aren't talking.

All reliable news from India has come only from the IAF press conferences. Everything else is simply unsubstantiated. So look up whatever IAF said and that's the Indian story.

I am not even trying to link anything to GoI let alone made up stories. I have merely managed to memorize the continuous & unlimited Indian claims be it Media or GoI or even IAF/Military. However, that took a lot of energy & time for me to gather all that at single place but at-least, I am seeing progress as you are now relying upon IAF press briefing only. So, whatever being said by Ministers or over the internet by anyone from India is not substantiated nor reliable rather an attempt to divert from facts and confuse Indian masses more than before.

Do you believe that what really happened by doing so? Exactly the same what I said that these claims are being made through different sources & domains merely on purpose to confuse people more & divert their attention from the facts or even before they could ask some real questions. In fact Elections are knocking on the door hence, it was the only way to advance with pro Modi election campaign.

So all that new findings of unsubstantiated news & claims; shall be taken down by Indian authorities rather than convincing anyone else to not to rely during a fact check reply. IAF pressers are merely wordings and lastly, seen couple of drawings. On other hand, world has seen enough evidence. Even the piece of AMRAAM is treated something in regard to taking down an IAF bird contrary to Indian push of shooting down F-16. This twist of yours by disowning media hype and uncontrolled politicians is yet another addition to the story like in the end, denying all what happened. Every single Indian story is being shared by Media or there is some secrete domain that you know and we aren't able to see. However, all I can find that most of sources even from Pakistan side are not paying much attention except for one or two statements and that is just because due to fake news industry of India.
 
They are classified but there are many other images on the net and media.
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Don’t you find it odd that not a single neutral expert has backed India’s claim in any of the major aspects of the skirmish; from the Balakot “strike” to the F-16 claim? The entire world is questioning and debunking India’s claim. Yet Indians like yourself continue to religiously hold on to an internationally debunked claim. Give it a rest, friend. Game over.
 

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