We can join hands with Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri and other parties to end Inflation:Imran Khan

[Leader]

PTI is the largest party and others are looking to join hands with it. PTI is already in alliance with JI and joining TUQ won't hurt. None which TUQ has said so far gives any personal or party benefit to him. You can disagree with the complete agenda or their mindset but on Democracy, Election Commission and Inflation, they are on the same page as PTI. On these 3 points, the more power you have, the better and effective you would be.

I only fear the backstabbing. TuQ is fully capable of doing that. he did so last year with his own people, by compromising with ppp.

 

[pkuser2k12]

No - reply needed

Thats what i should have done but anyways....

Again - You have to make institutions strong to kick in butt of goons and mafias, not start doing businesses which you have to bailout and feed cronies by bombarding mango man with indirect taxes. Sugar & Flour mills mafia is there because your CCP is not empowered enough to created competitive environment not because of privatization. Ever wonder why other countries don't have these problem? because their regulatory bodies are doing their work.

Regulating bodies cant do anything here because they are servant of political parties and help and facilitate them

i gave you examples

LOL!!! I don't think we can clear our import bills by telling poetry to our creditors.

and also cant pay by what you are suggesting

ghar bech kar sarak par aa jao

What steps they have agreed? Can you tell us? If it's privatization of white elephants, increasing tax revenues than i don't see any problem, IMF say it or not, it's what we need to do asap, there is no other way - All i am interested is that privatization yield maximum benefit and transparent, and govt. and tax revenue is increased by blocking leakages, widening direct tax net not by imposing more indirect taxes.

Privatization failed before in every era whether its ppp,pmln or army dictators it was unsuccessful we would not be here and after privatization is done we get a penny of tax and give a rupee for a chawani product

privatization is the ultimate monopoly of private seths,elite class and politicians

Do you understand that you have to prove that you are economically doing well and can pay back loans, and in international loans if you agree to work for interests of international powers than you can get favor. So, when PPP came into power, Pakistan was economically in better condition and PPP worked hard for 5 years to protect interests of foreign powers. Now it's time to start paying installments of the loans your appriciated PPP have taken - and yes you will get installment of IMF loan to pay the installments of PPP's loans.

pmln is here because of watching foreign interests they put them here thinking otherwise is ding ding

Again - I am all up for privatization of white elephants only thing i want is transparent process. Infect Bhutto's policy of nationalization pushed Pakistan decades behind economically and these organizations are used by politicians to favor their relatives and friends and bribe mango man with jobs without fearing any losses because after all it's same mango man who have to pay GST & surcharges to bailout. It's better to end this foolish cycle once for all.

And i am all against i told you all the history of "transparent privatization" is a joke and nothing else

Today you have media who is looking for news, If you see any discrepancy highlight the issue. It's not 90's with only state TV channel and controlled news papers and no social media.

lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


we have media from 2002 "azad media" "freeeeeeeeeeeeee media" "enlightened media" who keeps watch that india,afghanistan usa and natos interests don't get hurt

They themselves have to pay 3.2 billion rupees of taxes and start to malign anyone who only says some words against them

Its thanks to them first supporting Musharaf,then ppp and now pmln and 7 to 12 drama on tv

If they were soooo effective Pakistan would not have been here

Is it not responsibility of PTI as opposition party not let this happen again and press govt. for reforms and institution building ? Or PTI's aim is also come into power and appoint their people?

They don't listen to PTI or anyone else Nawz and Zardari are there to "nawaz" there people and nothing else

and when PTI will try to fulfill its responsibility you and likes of you will spin it in another direction and "freeeeeeeeeeeee media" will take the charge

 

[Sugarcane]

Thats what i should have done but anyways....





Regulating bodies cant do anything here because they are servant of political parties and help and facilitate them

i gave you examples







and also cant pay by what you are suggesting

ghar bech kar sarak par aa jao







Privatization failed before in every era whether its ppp,pmln or army dictators it was unsuccessful we would not be here and after privatization is done we get a penny of tax and give a rupee for a chawani product

privatization is the ultimate monopoly of private seths,elite class and politicians







pmln is here because of watching foreign interests they put them here thinking otherwise is ding ding







And i am all against i told you all the history of "transparent privatization" is a joke and nothing else







lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


oh my God we have media from 2002 "azad media" "freeeeeeeeeeeeee media" "enlightened media" who keeps watch that india,afghanistan usa and natos interests don't get hurt

They themselves have to pay 3.2 billion rupees of taxes and start to malign anyone who only says some words against them

Its thanks to them first supporting Musharaf,then ppp and now pmln and 7 to 12 drama on tv

If they were soooo effective we would not have been here







They don't listen to PTI or anyone else Nawz and Zardari are there to "nawaz" there people and nothing else

and when PTI will try to fulfill its responsibility you and likes of you will spin it in another direction and "freeeeeeeeeeeee media" will take the charge

To sum up, If i extend your logic than political parties & military rules have been proven disastrous for this country again n again in last 65 years. So, it's better to ban all political parties, nationalize everything and start following China's one party communist modal.

 

[pkuser2k12]

To sum up, If i extend your logic than political parties & military rules have been proven disastrous for this country again n again in last 65 years. So, it's better to ban all political parties, nationalize everything and start following China's one party communist modal.

We should not privatize Pakistans institution as its short term policy


Even pmln has a big rift in there party on this issue


We should try to revive them like right now Pakistan railways


There are many institution and business in Pakistan that are private,telecom,textiles,sports,agriculture even they dont pay taxes at all or little tax .see the tax net has fallen in current pnlm tenure compared to last ppp government.there is a thread on pdf about this topic.big Institutions should not be privatized



Its political parties responsibility to govern and if they dont public replaced ppp with pmln if they dont they will replace them with pti if they dont someone else will fill there void


Now there is no monopoly of two parties


The only reason pmln is trying to privatize is not because they have best interests of public but:


They want to sell them like scrape and take share in them via front men and to facilitate corrupt seths


They dont want to work and make them better and just like a lazy man pass them on


If thats the case running government is the hardest task better give parliament to ccp china on contract


They want to monopolize every business a death sentence for poor and middle class


AND MOST IMPORTANT THING SIR G


Nawaz sharif's government wants to give employees of the Institution listed to be privatized "Golden Hand Shake" scheme


meaning they want to downsize labor from these government institution before privatization so that when the private owner takeover they would not to have to fire labour and officers to downsize as every private company does and have backlash from Labor unions



Isnt this just zalalat,ziadati,badmashi,unfair,unjust sir g



Bail out them with money of government of Pakistan so that private bosses should not have to face severe backlash by labor unions when downsizing privatized institutions.


why cant they downsize labor and officers by golden hand shake and keep such important government institutions and run them properly for benefit of Government and public of Pakistan


major reason of loss is over labor and officers but NO


THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THERE BUDDY SETHS AND THEMSELVES

 

[Sugarcane]

We should not privatize Pakistans institution as its short term policy


Even pmln has a big rift in there party on this issue


We should try to revive them like right now Pakistan railways


There are many institution and business in Pakistan that are private,telecom,textiles,sports,agriculture even they dont pay taxes at all.big Institutions should not be privatized



Its political parties responsibility to govern and if they dont public replaced ppp with pmln if they dont they will replace them with pti if they dont someone else will fill there void


Now there is no monopoly of two parties


The only reason pmln is trying to privatize is not because they have best interests of public but:


They want to sell them like scrape and take share in them via front men and to facilitate corrupt seths


They dont want to work and make them better and just like a lazy man pass them on


If thats the case running government is the hardest task better give parliament to ccp china on contract


They want to monopolize every business a death sentence for poor and middle class

How you are sure that PTI will be given next government? How you are sure that role of ECP, Judiciary, Media, Police and bureaucracy will be different in next election? If PTI can't even press govt. for reforms and stop political interference in SECP & CCP than how you think it is capable of forcing govt. for free & fair elections? Media will not support PTI unless PTI start working for interests of foreign powers? So what you will do, compromise on national interest to accommodate interests of foreign powers and business tycoons to get media support? Create mess in country with protests and join hands with Qadari type of people which will either yield no result or can make situation out of control because people are too much frustrated?

What's guarantee that when PTI will come govt. it will deliver? PTI got govt. in KPK and there are still 4.5 years to make claim or pass judgement. If they didn't than again it will by same cycle all change will be that instead of 2 there will be 3 players in circus. So, it's better to ban all democracy drama and make one party communist setup where govt. do all the business.

 

[pak-marine]

We dont need to join hands with likes of Tahir ul Qadri and JI.

we fought this far alone, we can continue alone !!

isnt PTI an ally of Jamat e fasadi ?

 

[pkuser2k12]

How you are sure that PTI will be given next government? How you are sure that role of ECP, Judiciary, Media, Police and bureaucracy will be different in next election? If PTI can't even press govt. for reforms and stop political interference in SECP & CCP than how you think it is capable of forcing govt. for free & fair elections? Media will not support PTI unless PTI start working for interests of foreign powers? So what you will do, compromise on national interest to accommodate interests of foreign powers and business tycoons to get media support? Create mess in country with protests and join hands with Qadari type of people which will either yield no result or can make situation out of control because people are too much frustrated?

What's guarantee that when PTI will come govt. it will deliver? PTI got govt. in KPK and there are still 4.5 years to make claim or pass judgement. If they didn't than again it will by same cycle all change will be that instead of 2 there will be 3 players in circus. So, it's better to ban all democracy drama and make one party communist setup where govt. do all the business.

pti is pushing for fair elections and last time all media was attacking pti still they came on 2nd position


biometric system is tested in kpk recently


once dhadli is enough next time they will no it will be end game and no one will give them chance like this time


i have update my last post sir g kindly see that and reply

isnt PTI an ally of Jamat e fasadi ?

marchayn kyun lag gaen yes we are

 

[pak-marine]

marchayn kyun lag jaen yes we are

mirchi .. aur woh bhi jamat e badnami aur us allies say ... lol .. itna insecure kyu ho raha hai yar i read leaders comments which i replied too he said we are fighting this war alone i wanted to make sure PTI and JI are still allies !

 

[pkuser2k12]

mirchi .. aur woh bhi jamat e badnami aur us allies say ... lol .. itna insecure kyu ho raha hai yar i read leaders comments which i replied too he said we are fighting this war alone i wanted to make sure PTI and JI are still allies !

tension not pti and ji are allies in kpk,in center allies in local body elections in kpk,punjab,sindh and especially with love in karachi

on drone dharna,on mehngai etc etc

ask muni badna of uk not to dance and taunt ji for every evil deed in Pakistan

 

[BATMAN]

We dont need to join hands with likes of Tahir ul Qadri and JI.

we fought this far alone, we can continue alone !!

What is wrong with Dr. Tahir ul Qadri.. can you explain?
As far i know he is 1000 times more learned than Imran Khan.
You recently had a failed jalsa in Lahore, where you collected activists from all over punjab and you talk about fighting.

 

[Not Sure]

May be Imran Khan should get on TV and talk about how he plans to reduce inflation. After all, merely 'joining hands' with someone wouldn't magically reduce inflation of the country. There has to be some plan to increase the worth of work done in the country.

He needs to show what he got, until then, its just talks.

 

[Leader]

What is wrong with Dr. Tahir ul Qadri.. can you explain?
As far i know he is 1000 times more learned than Imran Khan.
You recently had a failed jalsa in Lahore, where you collected activists from all over punjab and you talk about fighting.

possible. but TuQ is not trustable, and he is no leader, but a religious mullah.

isnt PTI an ally of Jamat e fasadi ?

unfortunately.. as I stand, I dont want any alliance or partners, we alone represent Pakistan !

 

[BATMAN]

possible. but TuQ is not trustable, and he is no leader, but a religious mullah.

unfortunately.. as I stand, I dont want any alliance or partners, we all represent Pakistan !

Is it wrong to be religious? He is running campaign against sharif family when Imran Khan was still playing cricket!

 

[Sugarcane]

marchayn kyun lag jaen yes we are

Nawaz sharif's government wants to give employees of the Institution listed to be privatized "Golden Hand Shake" scheme


meaning they want to downsize labor from these government institution before privatization so that when the private owner takeover they would not to have to fire labour and officers to downsize as every private company does and have backlash from Labor unions

Of-course they have to downsize as there is over employment because every politicians have get his people appointed there and why any sane investor will want to go through this mess or put his investment in jeopardy. Thing to be checked it that the golden handshake costs are recovered in process of privatization.

why cant they downsize labor and officers by golden hand shake and keep such important government institutions and run them properly for benefit of Government and public of Pakistan

Downsize so that people can be appointed again? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me but fool me every now and than I am Pakistani.

Rest - Again i am talking about root cause which is institution building and empowerment be it FBR, SECP, CCP or ECP and you are saying that as big companies don't pay taxes (in other words your FBR don't do it's work) and they create monopoly/mafia (in other words your SECP & CCP don't do it's work) so govt. should start doing these business? Brilliant idea sir - Big land lords also don't pay taxes what's next? Govt. should start growing Chawal, Gandum, Gajjar Mooli? Media don't pay taxes, so govt. should nationalize all media houses? Hotels don't pay taxes, should govt. start hotel business?

 

[Leader]

Is it wrong to be religious? He is running campaign against sharif family when Imran Khan was still playing cricket!

nothing wrong, but he is no leader. secondly TuQ and Sharifs had Murshad-Mureed relation