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We are ready for war, but choose to walk path of peace: Pak army

why you guys are so serious its funny Indian army chief drink a bit and say something and in Pakistan millions start cleaning and oiling their guns in homes as war is coming next day :lol:

And you're proud of the fact that those millions of Pakistanis have to fight a war instead of their own army?

What do we take in our own Military for? Just to show off?

When civilians take to the front, the war is already lost.
 
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Pakjabis and their nautanki after poking by Gen. Rawat :P hehehe
lajjwal Mahiwal sannu himat deo haye haye :lol:
keep it up :tup:
 
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Every war was won by pakistan and lost only area of kargil and east pakistan .



Jokers from some drama ?
Lol .....Ha ha ha ..:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
Send them to take kashmir.
Go and read the Barkha Dutt Books revelas unknow facts and how india was begging to America
to intervene. We hold you from five areas in Kargil .So when Bill Clinton phoned Vajpayee in June 1999, three weeks into the war, and promised that he was working on Pakistan to pull back its soldiers from Indian territory, a sceptical Indian Prime Minister – a man who knew how to make masterful use of silence – did not respond. Later, Clinton would say of him, ‘that guy’s from Missouri big time’, after the American state known for the disbelieving demeanour it preferred to adopt when confronted with a tricky situation.Pakistan’s beleaguered prime minister was on the hotline to Washington. On 2 July, Nawaz Sharif pleaded with Bill Clinton for his personal intervention. Twenty-four hours later, at fifteen minutes past five, even as fireballs formed luminous red clouds over Tiger Hill, Sharif was packing his bags to leave for America.But now we have different situation in our diplomacy , we have Imran Khan who can't lay down in front of America and can't put down our Army face. That is why, India don't like Imran Khan . We learn enough bad lesson from Nawaz's civilian government in matters of foreign policy and strategic affairs.
 
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Go and read the Barkha Dutt Books revelas unknow facts and how india was begging to America
to intervene. We hold you from five areas in Kargil .So when Bill Clinton phoned Vajpayee in June 1999, three weeks into the war, and promised that he was working on Pakistan to pull back its soldiers from Indian territory, a sceptical Indian Prime Minister – a man who knew how to make masterful use of silence – did not respond. Later, Clinton would say of him, ‘that guy’s from Missouri big time’, after the American state known for the disbelieving demeanour it preferred to adopt when confronted with a tricky situation.Pakistan’s beleaguered prime minister was on the hotline to Washington. On 2 July, Nawaz Sharif pleaded with Bill Clinton for his personal intervention. Twenty-four hours later, at fifteen minutes past five, even as fireballs formed luminous red clouds over Tiger Hill, Sharif was packing his bags to leave for America.But now we have different situation in our diplomacy , we have Imran Khan who can't lay down in front of America and can't put down our Amry face.
India had blockaded Pakistan via navy. So, Pakistan retreated to avoid fuel shortage and economic collapse

You are free to believe anything else
 
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India had blockaded Pakistan via navy. So, Pakistan retreated to avoid fuel shortage and economic collapse

You are free to believe anything else
its all hypothetical IN navy played important role.
even though the PK naval version of Babur is not developed, the version of land platform can still be used, firing from the ports. In your india Media propaganda Navy got the medal but you guys forgot about our land cruise missile capcity at that time.We are small in land size as comapre to india but not very weak nation.
 
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No it wasn't

Yes, it was.

The intentions for retreating from their eastern wing by Yahya administration in Pakistan was conveyed to the United Nations on 10 December 1971,[2] and a formal surrender was submitted and accepted when the Commander of Eastern Command and Governor of East Pakistan, Lieutenant-General A.A.K. Niazi, signed an instrument of surrender with his counterpart, Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, GOC-in-C of Eastern Command, on 16 December 1971.:136[3]

The surrender ultimately culminated in the conclusion of liberation efforts in East as India accepts the unilateral ceasefire to end its war efforts in the western theatre on 17 December 1971.:136[3] The surrender was the largest surrender that the World had witnessed since the end of World War II,:17[4][5] with Indian Army taking approximately ~90,000—97,000 Pakistani servicemen as war prisoners in East.

and why do you think its still 1971? there is no mukti bahini to sabotage defenses this time

What can I say to an ignorant or a biased person who doesn't know whether the Mukti Bahini needed Indian support and training or the other way around?

Indian army 'backed out' of Pakistan attack
By Siddharth Srivastava

NEW DELHI - Reluctance for battle by an ill-prepared army could have resulted in India not launching an attack on Pakistan in the aftermath of the Pakistan-linked terror attack in the Indian city of Mumbai on November 26 in which nearly 200 people died.

High-level government sources have told Asia Times Online that army commanders impressed on the political leadership in New Delhi that an inadequate and obsolete arsenal at their disposal mitigated against an all-out war.

The navy and air force, however, had given the government the go-ahead about their preparedness to carry out an attack and repulse any retaliation from Pakistan.

Over the past few weeks, it has become increasingly apparent from top officials in the know that the closed-door meetings of top military commanders and political leaders discussed the poor state of the armory (both ammunition and artillery), and that this tilted the balance in favor of not striking at Pakistan.

According to senior officials, following the attack on Mumbai by 10 militants linked to Pakistan, India's top leadership looked at two options closely - war and hot pursuit.

Largely for the reasons cited above, the notion of an all-out war was rejected. Hot pursuit, however, remains very much on the table.

The government sources say that a framework for covert operations is being put in place, although India will continue to deny such actions. Crack naval, air and army forces backed by federal intelligence agencies will be involved. The target areas will be Pakistan-administered Kashmir and areas along the Punjab, such as Multan, where some of the Mumbai attackers are believed to have been recruited.

The coastal belt from the southern port city of Karachi to Gwadar in Balochistan province will also be under active Indian surveillance.

Thumbs down to war
Following the Mumbai attack, New Delhi's inclination was to launch a quick strike against Pakistan to impress domestic opinion, and then be prepared for a short war, given the pressures that would be exercised by international powers for a ceasefire to prevent nuclear war breaking out.

The expectation of New Delhi was that the war would go beyond the traditional skirmishes involving artillery fire that take place at the Kashmir border, essentially to check infiltration by militants, or the brief but bloody exchanges at Kargil in 1999.

It was in this context that the army made it apparent that it was not equipped to fight such a war, given the military's presence along the eastern Chinese borders, and that India was at risk of ceding territory should an instant ceasefire be brokered with Pakistan.

This would have been highly embarrassing, not to mention political suicide for the Congress-led government in an election year. So instead, New Delhi restricted itself to a strident diplomatic offensive that continues to date, and the option of hot pursuit.

The air force, on the other hand, was confident that it was prepared to take on the first retaliatory action by Pakistan, expected at forward air force bases along India's borders in Rajasthan, Gujarat and Indian-administered Kashmir. The role of the navy in the operations was not clearly defined, but it was to cover from the Arabian Sea.

Not ready to fight
Various experts, former generals and independent reports have voiced concern over the past few years about the state of preparedness of the Indian army.

For example, the Bofors gun scandal of the 1980s stymied the army's artillery modernization plan, with no induction of powerful guns since the 1986 purchase of 410 Bofors 155mm/39-caliber howitzers. The army has been trying to introduce 400 such guns from abroad and another 1,100 manufactured domestically, without success.

The latest report by the independent Comptroller and Auditor General said the state's production of 23mm ammunition for Shilka anti-aircraft cannons and 30mm guns mounted on infantry combat vehicles lacked quality. Further, supply was nearly 35% short of requirements.

India's huge tank fleet is in bad shape due to a shortage of Russian spare parts, while indigenous efforts, such as the main battle tank Arjun, have failed.

Signs of trouble emerged during the Kargil war when it was revealed that India's defense forces were dealing with acute shortages in every sphere.

In remarks that underscored the problems, the then-army chief, V P Malik, said his forces would make do with whatever was in hand, given the fears of a full-scale war that was eventually avoided due to pressure by America, then under president Bill Clinton.

The Kargil review committee report noted, "The heavy involvement of the army in counter-insurgency operations cannot but affect its preparedness for its primary role, which is to defend the country against external aggression."

Although there have been attempts to hasten India's overall defense modernization program, estimated at over US$50 billion over the next five years, gaping holes need to be plugged, including corruption and massive delays in the defense procurement processes.

India's defense expenditure has dipped below 2% of gross domestic product for the first time in decades, despite experts pegging 3% as adequate.

Other defense arms are in dire need of enhancement. Fighter jet squadrons are much below required strength, while the bidding process for medium fighter planes has only just begun and may take a few years to complete.

Meanwhile, the prospects of an India-Pakistan conflict are not over. India's army chief, General Deepak Kapoor, said last week that Pakistan had redeployed troops from its Afghan border to the western frontier with India. "The Indian army has factored this in its planning," Kapoor said.

Siddharth Srivastava is a New Delhi-based journalist. He can be reached at sidsri@yahoo.com.

Ok, now this is utter stupidity. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of articles on the web (and PDF itself) claiming the superiority of one army or the other. Simply cutting and pasting a particular article with a specific intent doesn't prove anything. I can also cut and paste many such articles and extend this discussion to many pages on the PDF. But that is a wastage of my resources and the bandwidth.
 
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Yes, it was.

The intentions for retreating from their eastern wing by Yahya administration in Pakistan was conveyed to the United Nations on 10 December 1971,[2] and a formal surrender was submitted and accepted when the Commander of Eastern Command and Governor of East Pakistan, Lieutenant-General A.A.K. Niazi, signed an instrument of surrender with his counterpart, Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, GOC-in-C of Eastern Command, on 16 December 1971.:136[3]

The surrender ultimately culminated in the conclusion of liberation efforts in East as India accepts the unilateral ceasefire to end its war efforts in the western theatre on 17 December 1971.:136[3] The surrender was the largest surrender that the World had witnessed since the end of World War II,:17[4][5] with Indian Army taking approximately ~90,000—97,000 Pakistani servicemen as war prisoners in East.



What can I say to an ignorant or a biased person who doesn't know whether the Mukti Bahini needed Indian support and training or the other way around?


Ok, now this is utter stupidity. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of articles on the web (and PDF itself) claiming the superiority of one army or the other. Simply cutting and pasting a particular article with a specific intent doesn't prove anything. I can also cut and paste many such articles and extend this discussion to many pages on the PDF. But that is a wastage of my resources and the bandwidth.
This highly exaggerated figure is sustained by Indian, Bangladeshi, international and even Pakistani media. Many Pakistani politicians, out of spite for army, keep on repeating the cliched figure. Ironically, this propagated number has remained unchallenged and is also widely believed in Pakistan, as few accounts have been written to challenge it and today reportedly 65% of Pakistanis are younger than 35 years of age who have no idea of what happened, 45 years ago, in 1971.
But the funny thing is: Pakistan, in December 1971, could not have more than 45,000 soldiers on ground in former east-Pakistan. So where the magical figure of 93,000 came from?
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.

It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.

This one corp was pitched against three corps of Indian Army from the West and North West and another two corps from the North East and East, a total of five Indian Corps plus 175,000 Indian backed and trained Mukti Bahini and many thousands of Awami League miscreants. When the total number of Pakistan army troops ranged between 34,000 to 45,000 how could 93,000 soldiers surrender?

From time to time various officers and commentators have attempted clarifying the myth but the power of first narrative is such that still the figure of 93,000 POW’s sticks in popular imagination.
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.

The figure of 93,000 also included children, women, civil administration officials and staff, non-combatant troops such as nurses, doctors, cooks, barbers, shoemakers, carpenters, and others. The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of an Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.
The total figure, a mix of soldiers and civilians was deliberately floated by Indians, and later by Bangladeshis to support their case for victimization. In Pakistan, a clever Bhutto used this for various reasons of his own politics. No one ever wanted to clarify. In reality, the actual number of Pakistani troops who surrendered on 16th December 1971 was only around 34,000. We had a history of Pathetic politicians and stupid media. Indians simply repeat lies 10000 times, no matter how ridiculous. Pakistan Army fought amazingly in 1971, for almost a year, against impossible odds., no army in the world could fight such war what Pakistani army was fighting in 1971 wish I would be part of it.
 
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This highly exaggerated figure is sustained by Indian, Bangladeshi, international and even Pakistani media. Many Pakistani politicians, out of spite for army, keep on repeating the cliched figure. Ironically, this propagated number has remained unchallenged and is also widely believed in Pakistan, as few accounts have been written to challenge it and today reportedly 65% of Pakistanis are younger than 35 years of age who have no idea of what happened, 45 years ago, in 1971.
But the funny thing is: Pakistan, in December 1971, could not have more than 45,000 soldiers on ground in former east-Pakistan. So where the magical figure of 93,000 came from?
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.

It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.

This one corp was pitched against three corps of Indian Army from the West and North West and another two corps from the North East and East, a total of five Indian Corps plus 175,000 Indian backed and trained Mukti Bahini and many thousands of Awami League miscreants. When the total number of Pakistan army troops ranged between 34,000 to 45,000 how could 93,000 soldiers surrender?

From time to time various officers and commentators have attempted clarifying the myth but the power of first narrative is such that still the figure of 93,000 POW’s sticks in popular imagination.
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.

The figure of 93,000 also included children, women, civil administration officials and staff, non-combatant troops such as nurses, doctors, cooks, barbers, shoemakers, carpenters and others. The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.
The total figure, a mix of soldiers and civilians was deliberately floated by Indians, and later by Bangladeshis to support their case for victimization. In Pakistan, a clever Bhutto used this for various reasons of his own politics. No one ever wanted to clarify. In reality, the actual number of Pakistani troops who surrendered on 16th December 1971 was only around 34,000. We had a history of Pathetic politicians and stupid media.Indians simply repeat lies 10000 times, no matter how ridiculous. Pakistan Army fought amazingly in 1971, for almost a year, against impossible odds.

I wanted to respond in a different way but then I read your comment "Indians simply repeat lies 10000 times, no matter how ridiculous". I had to change my response because I know Pakistan is not a saint either. In fact, they lied about much worse things. The world is now calling Pakistan's bluff though.

Pakistan Army fought amazingly in 1971, for almost a year, against impossible odds., no army in the world could fight such war what Pakistani army was fighting in 1971 wish I would be part of it.

Yeah right. Pakistan is the best army. One Pakistan soldier is equal to 10 Indian soldiers........heard this BS many times. India either defeated or had the upper hand in all of the previous wars. Pak PM had to run to the USA for saving his face.
 
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I wanted to respond in a different way but then I read your comment "Indians simply repeat lies 10000 times, no matter how ridiculous". I had to change my response because I know Pakistan is not a saint either. In fact, they lied about much worse things. The world is now calling Pakistan's bluff though.
I think you need to read a book The Dead Reckoning by a Bangladeshi journalist Ms. Sharmila Bose, I’m sure it will change your opinion about the figures you mentioned 93000 soldiers surrender and second, your media also accept it how they change the people minds with fake propaganda. recently India has been blasted as "irresponsible" from all over the world after senior military figure of indian army claimed he was ready to call the "nuclear bluff" presensted by pakistan. so world calling to whom Bluffing india or pakistan ?
https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/Media-and-issues-of-responsibility/article13059658.ece
 
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I think you need to read a book The Dead Reckoning by a Bangladeshi journalist Ms. Sharmila Bose, I’m sure it will change your opinion about the figures you mentioned 93000 soldiers surrender and second, your media also accept it how they change the people minds with fake propaganda.
https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/Media-and-issues-of-responsibility/article13059658.ece

Nah! I don't need to read any books because my objection was not about the number 93000. Your sweeping statement "Indians simply lie" is BS. Didn't Pakistan lie about anything? Some topics are out of the scope of this forum but some of Pakistan's lies are abhorrent, to say the least.
 
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This highly exaggerated figure is sustained by Indian, Bangladeshi, international and even Pakistani media. Many Pakistani politicians, out of spite for army, keep on repeating the cliched figure. Ironically, this propagated number has remained unchallenged and is also widely believed in Pakistan, as few accounts have been written to challenge it and today reportedly 65% of Pakistanis are younger than 35 years of age who have no idea of what happened, 45 years ago, in 1971.
But the funny thing is: Pakistan, in December 1971, could not have more than 45,000 soldiers on ground in former east-Pakistan. So where the magical figure of 93,000 came from?
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.

It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.

This one corp was pitched against three corps of Indian Army from the West and North West and another two corps from the North East and East, a total of five Indian Corps plus 175,000 Indian backed and trained Mukti Bahini and many thousands of Awami League miscreants. When the total number of Pakistan army troops ranged between 34,000 to 45,000 how could 93,000 soldiers surrender?

From time to time various officers and commentators have attempted clarifying the myth but the power of first narrative is such that still the figure of 93,000 POW’s sticks in popular imagination.
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.

The figure of 93,000 also included children, women, civil administration officials and staff, non-combatant troops such as nurses, doctors, cooks, barbers, shoemakers, carpenters, and others. The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of an Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.
The total figure, a mix of soldiers and civilians was deliberately floated by Indians, and later by Bangladeshis to support their case for victimization. In Pakistan, a clever Bhutto used this for various reasons of his own politics. No one ever wanted to clarify. In reality, the actual number of Pakistani troops who surrendered on 16th December 1971 was only around 34,000. We had a history of Pathetic politicians and stupid media. Indians simply repeat lies 10000 times, no matter how ridiculous. Pakistan Army fought amazingly in 1971, for almost a year, against impossible odds., no army in the world could fight such war what Pakistani army was fighting in 1971 wish I would be part of it.
Pak forces in the East Pak were without any armored, artilerry, air etc. support amidst a highly hostile populace who were providing the enemies with all possible logistics, intelligence etc. support!! Not to mention the Indian/Soviet support for full fledged insurgency with 100K+ terrorists!!! Every movement of the Pak army, even at the platoon level, were widely known to the Indian/Soviet High comand to a detailed degree!!! And, they’re cutoff from the mainland Pak by 1200 miles of the Indian territory without naval or air backup!!! If I were at the Pak high command I would have removed the Pak forces much earlier from BD for simply it’s not worth fighting for the folks who are basically the bossom friends of Pak’s arch enemies!!! BD folks were ready to give up “Saya-i Huda-I Zul Jelal” and Ay-Yildiz (Sitara ve Hilal), the very symbols of Islam and Muslims for a thousand years, and replace them with the Hindu symbols!!! Allah-u Azimushshan had left them with the Hindus; hence, Pak had no business there...
 
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just read this article and see how in Indian society the lie flourish.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/growing-tide-fake-news-india-171210122732217.html

See? You absolutely vindicated my statement. The kind of lies and fake news you are talking about are everywhere. Yep, Indian media spreads a lot of such fake news and influences people. This issue exists in many other countries too.

But what kind of lies Pakistan told the world? Compared to that, the lies of the Indian society are like badam halwa.
 
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I wanted to respond in a different way but then I read your comment "Indians simply repeat lies 10000 times, no matter how ridiculous". I had to change my response because I know Pakistan is not a saint either. In fact, they lied about much worse things. The world is now calling Pakistan's bluff though.



Yeah right. Pakistan is the best army. One Pakistan soldier is equal to 10 Indian soldiers........heard this BS many times. India either defeated or had the upper hand in all of the previous wars. Pak PM had to run to the USA for saving his face.
Yes Pak PM run to USA becuase when Bill Clinton phoned Vajpayee in June 1999, three weeks into the war(Pak Army hold you from five areas and only solution remain for india only to begging to USA ), and promised that he was working on Pakistan to pull back its soldiers from Indian territory.

See? You absolutely vindicated my statement. The kind of lies and fake news you are talking about are everywhere. Yep, Indian media spreads a lot of such fake news and influences people. This issue exists in many other countries too.

But what kind of lies Pakistan told the world? Compared to that, the lies of the Indian society are like badam halwa.
But here's the problem: the Indian tolerance for dishonesty and lie severely erodes any concept of accountability. Also, the Indian tolerance for dishonesty and lie severely erodes any concept justice. How can complex professional systems be put into place if people aren't willing to fess up to their shortcomings or change their behaviours in the face of suboptimal performance or outright failures? It may be a leap to ask anyone to embrace the notion that it is okay to fail but not okay not to try in the first place, but anyone should at least be able to accept responsibility for shortcomings. That's how we grow. We learn more from our failures than our successes and it's important to acknowledge when we've done wrong so we can do it right (or at least better) next time.
 
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Yes Pak PM run to USA becuase when Bill Clinton phoned Vajpayee in June 1999, three weeks into the war(Pak Army hold you from five areas and only solution remain for india only to begging to USA ), and promised that he was working on Pakistan to pull back its soldiers from Indian territory.


But here's the problem: the Indian tolerance for dishonesty and lie severely erodes any concept of accountability. Also, the Indian tolerance for dishonesty and lie severely erodes any concept justice. How can complex professional systems be put into place if people aren't willing to fess up to their shortcomings or change their behaviours in the face of suboptimal performance or outright failures? It may be a leap to ask anyone to embrace the notion that it is okay to fail but not okay not to try in the first place, but anyone should at least be able to accept responsibility for shortcomings. That's how we grow. We learn more from our failures than our successes and it's important to acknowledge when we've done wrong so we can do it right (or at least better) next time.

No. When you talk about accountability and trust, Pakistan is a joke in the world now. India is very well respected.
Many countries directly or indirectly expressed their concern about Pakistan's rogue behavior. The only reason countries are showing patience is because of your nuclear weapons.

The kind of rebuke and insults Pakistan received from the world will force any country to do serious introspection. But Pakistan still believes in victory with the help of certain assets. It is a shame beyond words.
 
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