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“We are not seeking hostility with India for the next 100 years" pakistan's New security policy seeks ‘peace’ with India

Indian should listen with open ears and eyes:
Indeed we do not want war with any neighboring country, we want peace. If you take it as our weakness, just dare for any adventure like 29Feb and we will give you a befitting reply on our own terms and time, with pretty advanced warning and not coward style so-called 'Surgical Strikes'.
Well I think all India wants now is to butcher Kashmiris in peace. What to expect from them anyways.
 
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Just 2 years back, it used to be-

"Jo Modi ka yaar hai, woh gaddar hai"

"We won't restore ties with India until India reverses it's decision on Kashmir"

"Normalising relations with India at present would be a major 'betrayal' to Kashmiris"

"Pakistan 'will go to any lengths' to support occupied Kashmir's cause"

"'All of Pakistan stands by you,' PM Imran tells Kashmiris on Black Day"

"Modi committed 'strategic blunder' by revoking occupied Kashmir's status"

"I want to tell the Kashmiri people that whether the world stands with them or not, Pakistan will."

"PM Imran calls on Pakistanis to partake in Kashmir Hour every week to send message of solidarity"


Now this-

"The original 100-page policy, which would be kept under wraps, leaves the door open for trade and business ties with India without final settlement of the longstanding Kashmir dispute provided there is progress in the talks between the two nuclear-armed neighbours"

"We are not seeking hostility with India for the next 100 years"


Effectively Kashmir and Kashmiris thrown under the carpet for 100 years. :laugh:

This is what happens when you are an economic dustbin, and (s)elect a slimy motor mouth whose right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
 
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ISLAMABAD:
Peace with immediate neighbours and economic diplomacy will be the central theme of the country’s foreign policy in the new National Security Policy, scheduled to be unveiled on Friday.
The original 100-page policy, which would be kept under wraps, leaves the door open for trade and business ties with India without final settlement of the longstanding Kashmir dispute provided there is progress in the talks between the two nuclear-armed neighbours, an official in a background briefing to journalists said on Tuesday.

“We are not seeking hostility with India for the next 100 years. The new policy seeks peace with immediate neighbours,” the official said, adding if there was a dialogue and progress in it, there would be a possibility of normalising trade and commercial ties with India as it had happened in the past.
Relations between Pakistan and India have been at a virtual standstill since August 2019, when India revoked the special status of the disputed territory. Pakistan, in reaction to the Indian move, downgraded diplomatic ties and suspended bilateral trade with India.
In February last year, there were some hopes of a breakthrough when the two sides agreed to restore the ceasefire understanding along the Line of Control (LoC) but the process could not make further headway.
Also read: Cabinet approves Pakistan’s first-ever National Security Policy: NSA

'From geo-strategic to geo-economics'

As the new national security policy seeks a shift in Pakistan’s approach from geo-strategic to geo-economics, there is a renewed optimism of a possible thaw with India. “Economic security will be the central theme of the new national security policy,” the official disclosed. Similarly, economic diplomacy and peace with immediate neighbours would be the central theme of the country’s foreign policy. “But geo-economics does not necessarily mean we overlook our geo-strategic and geo-political interests,” the official stressed, saying the longstanding Kashmir dispute with India has been identified as a ‘vital national policy’ issue for Pakistan.

The official, however, clarified that there were no prospects of rapprochement with India under the current Modi-led government in New Delhi. The new policy will be formally launched by Prime Minister Imran Khan on Friday, the official added. According to the official, this would be the first-ever codified national security policy that would cover both internal security as well as foreign policy. “Only a part of the national security policy will be made public,” the official clarified, saying in the rest of the world such policies often remained classified.
The official said though Pakistan did have defence, foreign and internal policies, the new policy would act as an “umbrella document” providing direction for the future. It took seven years to prepare this policy, which was started by then-national security adviser Sartaj Aziz in 2014.
“Inputs were taken from all the federal, provincial institutions as well as military and other departments,” the official maintained.

However, the official when asked said the opposition was not taken on board since the policymaking was the domain of the executive. Nevertheless, the official admitted that such a document would need a consensus. “For this purpose, we are ready to sit with opposition on this,” the official added.
When National Security Adviser Dr Moeed Yusuf briefed the parliamentary committee on national security a few weeks ago, the opposition boycotted the session.
When asked to comment on the implementation of the policy, the official said the classified document lays out a complete implementation mechanism and the prime minister will review the progress on a monthly basis. The policy will be reviewed every year and at the time of change of government, according to the official. The official said the issue of political stability was also taken care of in the new national security policy. Pakistan has a checkered history with no elected prime minister having ever been able to complete his/her five-year term.
The new policy also deals with the issue of militant and dissident groups and advocates dialogue with ‘reconcilable elements.’ Similarly, the policy has identified “intellectual expression” as key for the progress and prosperity of society. On the internal front, the new policy identifies five key areas that include population/migration, health, climate and water, food security and gender mainstreaming.




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This is nothing new.

This has been Pakistan's position all through history, otherwise Pakistan would have attacked in 1962 when India was getting a beating from China, and at it's weakest.

The only times Pakistan went to war with India was when it felt pushed into a corner.

This is an old Pakistani position, now being expressed in a policy framework. For the past four decades Pakistan has had Afghan mess to the west, Indian mess to the east, and Iranian mess to the south-west. Now that things have changed, including the fact that China is able to support Pakistan with technology and investment, this allows Pakistan to pursue it policies without impediments. And, the fact that Pakistan is domestically a lot more secure in capabilities and capacities then it has ever been.
 
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Just 2 years back, it used to be-

"Jo Modi ka yaar hai, woh gaddar hai"

"We won't restore ties with India until India reverses it's decision on Kashmir"

"Normalising relations with India at present would be a major 'betrayal' to Kashmiris"

"Pakistan 'will go to any lengths' to support occupied Kashmir's cause"

"'All of Pakistan stands by you,' PM Imran tells Kashmiris on Black Day"

"Modi committed 'strategic blunder' by revoking occupied Kashmir's status"

"I want to tell the Kashmiri people that whether the world stands with them or not, Pakistan will."

"PM Imran calls on Pakistanis to partake in Kashmir Hour every week to send message of solidarity"


Now this-

"The original 100-page policy, which would be kept under wraps, leaves the door open for trade and business ties with India without final settlement of the longstanding Kashmir dispute provided there is progress in the talks between the two nuclear-armed neighbours"

"We are not seeking hostility with India for the next 100 years"


Effectively Kashmir and Kashmiris thrown under the carpet for 100 years. :laugh:

This is what happens when you are an economic dustbin, and elect a slimy motor mouth whose right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

This is why peace with India is never possible.. Thank you once again. I keep telling my fellow PDF'ers
This is nothing new.

This has been Pakistan's position all through history, otherwise Pakistan would have attacked in 1962 when India was getting a beating from China, and at it's weakest.

The only times Pakistan went to war with India was when it felt pushed into a corner.

This is an old Pakistani position, now being expressed in a policy framework. For the past four decades Pakistan has had Afghan mess to the west, Indian mess to the east, and Iranian mess to the south-west. Now that things have changed, including the fact that China is able to support Pakistan with technology and investment, this allows Pakistan to pursue it policies without impediments. And, the fact that Pakistan is domestically a lot more secure in capabilities and capacities then it has ever been.

Maybe that is what is wrong.. I have been advocating for an exlusive offensive doctrine.. Get the Afghan's on board create interoperality between the forces and in the next war god-willing we will attack India unilaterally or not but it has to be purely offensive attacking from multiple axes..

But we need to ethablish our stragetic depth and create installations there prepare for them a bait and eventually we will catch the fish.. Digging our way deep into the mountains creating a fortress unlike anything seen before.. Once preparation is home send a letter to India simply saying ''Hand over the key to Delhi''

Re-creating a Muhammad of Ghor like scenario but the preparations and installations has to be in place
 
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This is why peace with India is never possible.. Thank you once again. I keep telling my fellow PDF'ers


Maybe that is what is wrong.. I have been advocating for an exlusive offensive doctrine.. Get the Afghan's on board create interoperality between the forces and in the next war god-willing we will attack India unilaterally or not but it has to be purely offensive attacking from multiple axes..

But we need to ethablish our stragetic depth and create installations there prepare for them a bait and eventually we will catch the fish.. Digging our way deep into the mountains creating a fortress unlike anything seen before.. Once preparation is home send a letter to India simply saying ''Hand over the key to Delhi''

Re-creating a Muhammad of Ghor like scenario but the preparations and installations has to be in place
How many Afghans do you think will come? Plus they won't be as effective as they were against the Americans because this time they'll be the invading force, they'll only come, if they do, in the name of Kashmiris
 
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How many Afghans do you think will come? Plus they won't be as effective as they were against the Americans because this time they'll be the invading force, they'll only come, if they do, in the name of Kashmiris

A well drilled and oiled Afghan that is modernized conventionally nothing on god's earth can stop them and most certainly not the indians this much I am confident of just like I know day is followed by night..

Not in the name of Kashmiris but in the name of ending a menance to civilization to enforce a permement quite. We need to sign defense treaty with the Afghans and increase our military cooperation with them and even sale them arms including JF-17s to start with and keep going from there on.. They will never betray these treaties we sign with them even if it is against them just like Mullah omar chose war instead of handing over one person
 
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Just 2 years back, it used to be-

"Jo Modi ka yaar hai, woh gaddar hai"

"We won't restore ties with India until India reverses it's decision on Kashmir"

"Normalising relations with India at present would be a major 'betrayal' to Kashmiris"

"Pakistan 'will go to any lengths' to support occupied Kashmir's cause"

"'All of Pakistan stands by you,' PM Imran tells Kashmiris on Black Day"

"Modi committed 'strategic blunder' by revoking occupied Kashmir's status"

"I want to tell the Kashmiri people that whether the world stands with them or not, Pakistan will."

"PM Imran calls on Pakistanis to partake in Kashmir Hour every week to send message of solidarity"


Now this-

"The original 100-page policy, which would be kept under wraps, leaves the door open for trade and business ties with India without final settlement of the longstanding Kashmir dispute provided there is progress in the talks between the two nuclear-armed neighbours"

"We are not seeking hostility with India for the next 100 years"


Effectively Kashmir and Kashmiris thrown under the carpet for 100 years. :laugh:

This is what happens when you are an economic dustbin, and elect a slimy motor mouth whose right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Pakistan should follow China's policy. Bide your time, build up your economy and financial reserves, as well as your military. Keep building until no one can challenge you anymore.

Besides, this policy of peace with India is nothing new, and has been the policy since the birth of Pakistan.
 
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Good move/decision by pakistan. Hope Pak military also obey the same policy. It will improve life of common people in both countries a lot.
 
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Basically the Generals are saying that they don't want to fight cause they would rather buy and sell DHA plots, and buy different colored bangles.
 
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After announcing a blanket ban on Indian imports in 2019... Pakistan has already allowed Pharma imports from India, I wonder how much time will it take for Imran Khan to take a U-Turn on cotton, wheat and sugar also? :bounce:
Pakistan should follow China's policy. Bide your time, build up your economy and financial reserves, as well as your military. Keep building until no one can challenge you anymore.

Besides, this policy of peace with India is nothing new, and has been the policy since the birth of Pakistan.
If this happens, then it's the best news for India.
Because you aren't going to succeed in emulating a Chinese model. And will antagonise everyone else. It's a win-win for us!
 
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Just 2 years back, it used to be-

"Jo Modi ka yaar hai, woh gaddar hai"

"We won't restore ties with India until India reverses it's decision on Kashmir"

"Normalising relations with India at present would be a major 'betrayal' to Kashmiris"

"Pakistan 'will go to any lengths' to support occupied Kashmir's cause"

"'All of Pakistan stands by you,' PM Imran tells Kashmiris on Black Day"

"Modi committed 'strategic blunder' by revoking occupied Kashmir's status"

"I want to tell the Kashmiri people that whether the world stands with them or not, Pakistan will."

"PM Imran calls on Pakistanis to partake in Kashmir Hour every week to send message of solidarity"


Now this-

"The original 100-page policy, which would be kept under wraps, leaves the door open for trade and business ties with India without final settlement of the longstanding Kashmir dispute provided there is progress in the talks between the two nuclear-armed neighbours"

"We are not seeking hostility with India for the next 100 years"


Effectively Kashmir and Kashmiris thrown under the carpet for 100 years. :laugh:

This is what happens when you are an economic dustbin, and (s)elect a slimy motor mouth whose right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Ajit Doval once said, “Don’t punch above your weight, don’t punch below your weight, increase your weight and punch proportionately!”.

I’m glad we’re on the right path.
 
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Pakistan should follow China's policy. Bide your time, build up your economy and financial reserves, as well as your military. Keep building until no one can challenge you anymore.

Besides, this policy of peace with India is nothing new, and has been the policy since the birth of Pakistan.
Yeah but it's not like India's going to sit there stagnant, they already have an advantage due to sheer size. We will never have that kind of advantage over them unless a miracle happened and Pakistanis fixed their toxic habits and corruption was erased from the ground up. And then launch proxies against India during all of that to destabilise them and prevent growth.

And that's just not going to happen, if anything India will do that, not us (is already doing this)
 
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And that's just not going to happen, if anything India will do that, not us (is already doing this)

Size is nothing but bs.. We will only fight there armed forces... Honestly one of the reasons our stragetic depth is so important for us but we have advantage today hence why in our next conflict we are completely going all in.. We can mobilize 3m and the AFG 2m.. We move in suddenly one morning... Multiple axes and first strike will be Tarain for symbol signal..

This could be a quite quick and surprising complete conquest then most people would realize but it all comes down to our intention and what we seek because a defensive war itself is not feasible hence offensive is the only logical way hence our defense is offense and the preparations and everything involving that has to be offensive geared hence one of our most important foreign policy is good relations with our stragetic depth
 
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Yeah but it's not like India's going to sit there stagnant, they already have an advantage due to sheer size. We will never have that kind of advantage over them unless a miracle happened and Pakistanis fixed their toxic habits and corruption was erased from the ground up. And then launch proxies against India during all of that to destabilise them and prevent growth.

And that's just not going to happen, if anything India will do that, not us (is already doing this)
Pakistan can and should push India and China towards hostility, this will distract India and prioritize China to assist Pakistan.

Meanwhile, Pakistan can concentrate on building its economy, while India is distracted. Pakistan can also be subtle on pushing India's faultlines.
 
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Pakistan can and should push India and China towards hostility, this will distract India and prioritize China to assist Pakistan.

Meanwhile, Pakistan can concentrate on building its economy, while India is distracted. Pakistan can also be subtle on pushing India's faultlines.

Pakistan doesn't need to push them together in order to deter India they won't miscalculate anyways they are completely deterred anyways. We just need to ethablish friends on our behind western border namely Afghanistan that is the main key to the solution..
 
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