Wazirstan and Mughal empire

[Samandri]

Prince Bahadur Shah (Son of Aurangzeb) on his conquest of Bannu made Syed Hassan as the governor of Dawar tribe in 1696 and imposed upon the tribes an annual tribute of Rs. 12,000. For some time the new governor continued his governorship, but with difficulties. When the Mughal Administration fell into disorder, the Dawars shook off the imperial yoke.
Prince Bahadur Shah made Isalat Khan the governor of Bannu. When the prince went away from Bannu, the Bannuchis, Dawars and Marwats revolted against Isalat Khan and he was besieged in the fort along with his soldiers. Isalat Khan fought for some days but finally he was subjugated and sent away to Mianwali with escort. The news of defeat reached to Bahadur Shah at Jalal Abad in 1699. The prince sent message to Isalat Khan to wait for his help at Dara Tangey (Mainwali).
Bahadur Shah sent a royal decree to Mir Ibrahim and Hazir Khan, Fauijdar of Bangash tribe, to help Isalat Khan. When they reached to Boland Khel (Thal), a message came from Syed Hassan (Governor of Dawar tribe) that he was also besieged and that they should come with great care. The Kurram route was blocked by Kabul Khel Wazirs from Boland Khel to the shrine of Khwaja Abdullah Baba. The army was dispersed and could not reach Bannu. The news reached Bahadur Shah at Kabul and he ordered the army commanders to do according to the best of their abilities in suppressing the revolt and that he would supply the commodities.
Next year, Bahadur Shah went to Kohat from Peshawar and passed the summer season at Zeran (Koh-e-Sufed). There he made a plan to attack Bannu and to construct a road from Zeran to Gandamak.
These objectives were not achieved by Bahadur Shah. He sent an army from Boland Khel to Bannu to crush the revolt. They were on their way to Bannu when Kabul Khel Wazirs attacked them and the army was routed. The commander of the army called the Wazir Maliks for reconciliation. The outcome was not good and all the Maliks were put to sword. It made the Wazirs very ferious and in reaction they attacked the army at Boland Khel and crushed it bitterly. The royal commander ran away to Dara Samand (Hangu). When Bahadur Shah was informed about the incident, he pulled out the army to Kabul.
In the autumn of 1701-02, Prince Bahadur Shah set out on the Khost route for Dawars and after entering it, found the route blocked by the Wazirs, Dawars, and other Pushtoons. He could not get on, but it was an effective arrangement of Mohammad Nasir Khan (Army Commander) that Bahadur Shah succeeded in reaching Bannu with his forces. Subsequently, after having passed the winter in Bannu, the Prince set out for Kabul. On reaching the Hassan Tangi, all the Pushtoon tribes of that area, the Wazirs, Dawars and Khostwal came out and occupied the pass to block his way. He sent troops in advance who attacked them but the Pukstoon tribes repulsed them with considerable losses and there was much fear lest the whole force would be destroyed. The Prince was obliged to treat the Pustoons well and after giving much gold to them, they left the passage clear. But he reached Kabul and lost all equipments.
Olaf Careao tells us in his book ‘The Pathan’ that both Mughuls and Durranis committed forces to dominate them but no empire of which we have any record had ever succeeded in subjugating the tribes of Waziristan.
Source: (A Concise History of Afghanistan in 25 Volumes, Volume 1 By Hamid Wahed Alikuzai, page 290)
History of Pashtuns

 

[Tameem]

@Samandri Lala, i heard "Qiyamt" only falls on humanity but not on Pushtuns.....is that correct?

 

[dil_dil]

@Samandri Lala, i heard "Qiyamt" only falls on humanity but not on Pushtuns.....is that correct?

Yes true.

 

[Samandri]

@Samandri Lala, i heard "Qiyamt" only falls on humanity but not on Pushtuns.....is that correct?

Paa ji, jo cheez tum logo ko qayamat lagti hey, wo hamaray liye sirf azmaish hoti hey..................

Waise waziristan ki history Pakistan hi ki history hey, apna dil barra karo chauhdry

 

[dil_dil]

Paa ji, jo cheez tum logo ko qayamat lagti hey, wo hamaray liye sirf azmaish hoti hey..................

Waise waziristan ki history Pakistan hi ki history hey, apna dil barra karo chauhdry

I was reading Wazir tribe history on wiki, seem like British also gave them hindu rajput origin. I know British used to give every Pakistani tribe rajput title/origin but still interesting lol

 

[Samandri]

I was reading Wazir tribe history on wiki, seem like British also gave them hindu rajput origin. I know British used to give every Pakistani tribe rajput title/origin but still interesting lol

Its H.Bellow who theorized about various Pashtun tribes that they are of Rajput origin, he even concluded that Marwats are Rajputs.

I think there is another expaination, Pashtuns have blood of white huns in them.......same might be the case with Rajputs, some say that are mixed people of Gujjars and White huns

 

[dil_dil]

Its H.Bellow who theorized about various Pashtun tribes that they are of Rajput origin, he even concluded that Marwats are Rajputs.

I think its the other way around, Pashtuns have blood of white huns in them or are descended from them.......same might be the case with Rajputs, some say that are mixed people of Gujjars and White huns

Wow never knew about that, so this rajput origin theory is not limited to punjabi tribes. And rajput is just a title not race, i guess if pashtuns converted to hinduism some 800 years ago instead of Islam then today they would be considered rajputs and kashtriyas.

Punjabi ''rajputs'' have nothing to do with Rajasthan, maybe this make them fake ones. But few tribes like Bhattis and some others were mostly knows as rajputs. Because real rajputs are only supposed to come from Rajasthan or have ancestry from Rajasthan rajputs in last 800-900 years when this title started to be used.

This also most likely make 90% of Indian rajputs as not real because they mostly live outside Rajasthan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Wow never knew about that, so this rajput origin theory is not limited to punjabi tribes. And rajput is just a title not race, i guess if pashtuns converted to hinduism some 800 years ago instead of Islam then today they would be considered rajputs and kashtriyas.

Punjabi ''rajputs'' have nothing to do with Rajasthan, maybe this make them fake ones. But few tribes like Bhattis and some others were mostly knows as rajputs. Because real rajputs are only supposed to come from Rajasthan or have ancestry from Rajasthan rajputs in last 800-900 years when this title started to be used.

This also most likely make 90% of Indian rajputs as not real because they mostly live outside Rajasthan.

There are also sikh rajputs.. i.e banda bahadur singh one of their religious figures... also it has nothing to do with living in rajhistan... its probably coz those groups conquered or settled in territories outside the region...

 

[dil_dil]

There are also sikh rajputs.. i.e banda bahadur singh one of their religious figures... also it has nothing to do with living in rajhistan... its probably coz those groups conquered or settled in territories outside the region...

Used as title, for exemple potohari rajput tribes are living there long before rajput title was invented some 900 years ago. These lands were never conquered by Rajasthan or any other rajput.

If you read British sources and also Indian one, its clear they make ''rajput''as race which we now know is bs. And they also try to explain and make them originally from Rajasthan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Used as title, for exemple potohari rajput tribes are living there long before rajput title was invented some 900 years ago. These lands were never conquered by Rajasthan or any other rajput.

If you read British sources and also Indian one, its clear they make ''rajput''as race which we now know is bs. And also try to explain and make them originally from Rajasthan.

Rajputs were the original people who dominated the indian region in the ancient times... they probably are from the same stock but assimilated in the regions they settled in.. the ones in Punjab assimilated here.. the others in their respective regions....For eg... Pashtun soldiers that stayed back in india.. do their descendants look exactly like Pashtuns today? As for inventing titles... well i doubt that happened.. considering there were rajputs even before afghan invasions and so on... so to say that they are fake or that british gave them the Rajput title is total BS.

 

[dil_dil]

Rajputs were the original people who dominated the indian region in the ancient times... they probably are from the same stock but assimilated in the regions they settled in.. the ones in Punjab assimilated here.. the others in their respective regions....For eg... Pashtun soldiers that stayed back in india.. do their descendants look exactly like Pashtuns today?

Hmm you are confusing something. Rajasthani rajputs are 900 years old. You mean ancient kashtriyas of Rig Vedic era? No one knows their current day exact tribe because they indeed assimilated with other people. I was writing about Rajasthani rajputs and when rajput title was started to be used. Ancient kashtariyas (more like invading aryans) were limited to punjab and from there they spread out.

But rajputs are supposed to come from Rajasthan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hmm you are confusing something. Rajasthani rajputs are 900 years old. You mean ancient kashtriyas of Rig Vedic era? No one knows their current day exact tribe because they indeed assimilated with other people. I was writing about Rajasthani rajputs and when rajput title was started to be used. Ancient kashtariyas (more like invading aryans) were limited to punjab and from there they spread out.

But rajputs are supposed to come from Rajasthan.

Whatever rocks your boat man.. im not an expert.. nor i think are you... anyways.. TC.


P.S: Rajputs in Rajhistan were there since much longer.. google...

 

[Sam_Bajwa]

There are also sikh rajputs.. i.e banda bahadur singh one of their religious figures... also it has nothing to do with living in rajhistan... its probably coz those groups conquered or settled in territories outside the region...

Banda singh the great warrior was not a punjabi he was a Dogra born in Poonch (J&K) another great warrior born at the same place is me .

Its H.Bellow who theorized about various Pashtun tribes that they are of Rajput origin, he even concluded that Marwats are Rajputs.

I think there is another expaination, Pashtuns have blood of white huns in them.......same might be the case with Rajputs, some say that are mixed people of Gujjars and White huns

Gujjars are surely the descendants of the huns can't say about the Pathans
Rajputs are of aryan stock although some clans may be of different origin .

 

[Narashima]

Hmm you are confusing something. Rajasthani rajputs are 900 years old. You mean ancient kashtriyas of Rig Vedic era? No one knows their current day exact tribe because they indeed assimilated with other people. I was writing about Rajasthani rajputs and when rajput title was started to be used. Ancient kashtariyas (more like invading aryans) were limited to punjab and from there they spread out.

But rajputs are supposed to come from Rajasthan.

even gujjars claim their ancestry in mount abu in rajasthan.

 

[farhan_9909]

Prince Bahadur Shah (Son of Aurangzeb) on his conquest of Bannu made Syed Hassan as the governor of Dawar tribe in 1696 and imposed upon the tribes an annual tribute of Rs. 12,000. For some time the new governor continued his governorship, but with difficulties. When the Mughal Administration fell into disorder, the Dawars shook off the imperial yoke.
Prince Bahadur Shah made Isalat Khan the governor of Bannu. When the prince went away from Bannu, the Bannuchis, Dawars and Marwats revolted against Isalat Khan and he was besieged in the fort along with his soldiers. Isalat Khan fought for some days but finally he was subjugated and sent away to Mianwali with escort. The news of defeat reached to Bahadur Shah at Jalal Abad in 1699. The prince sent message to Isalat Khan to wait for his help at Dara Tangey (Mainwali).
Bahadur Shah sent a royal decree to Mir Ibrahim and Hazir Khan, Fauijdar of Bangash tribe, to help Isalat Khan. When they reached to Boland Khel (Thal), a message came from Syed Hassan (Governor of Dawar tribe) that he was also besieged and that they should come with great care. The Kurram route was blocked by Kabul Khel Wazirs from Boland Khel to the shrine of Khwaja Abdullah Baba. The army was dispersed and could not reach Bannu. The news reached Bahadur Shah at Kabul and he ordered the army commanders to do according to the best of their abilities in suppressing the revolt and that he would supply the commodities.
Next year, Bahadur Shah went to Kohat from Peshawar and passed the summer season at Zeran (Koh-e-Sufed). There he made a plan to attack Bannu and to construct a road from Zeran to Gandamak.
These objectives were not achieved by Bahadur Shah. He sent an army from Boland Khel to Bannu to crush the revolt. They were on their way to Bannu when Kabul Khel Wazirs attacked them and the army was routed. The commander of the army called the Wazir Maliks for reconciliation. The outcome was not good and all the Maliks were put to sword. It made the Wazirs very ferious and in reaction they attacked the army at Boland Khel and crushed it bitterly. The royal commander ran away to Dara Samand (Hangu). When Bahadur Shah was informed about the incident, he pulled out the army to Kabul.
In the autumn of 1701-02, Prince Bahadur Shah set out on the Khost route for Dawars and after entering it, found the route blocked by the Wazirs, Dawars, and other Pushtoons. He could not get on, but it was an effective arrangement of Mohammad Nasir Khan (Army Commander) that Bahadur Shah succeeded in reaching Bannu with his forces. Subsequently, after having passed the winter in Bannu, the Prince set out for Kabul. On reaching the Hassan Tangi, all the Pushtoon tribes of that area, the Wazirs, Dawars and Khostwal came out and occupied the pass to block his way. He sent troops in advance who attacked them but the Pukstoon tribes repulsed them with considerable losses and there was much fear lest the whole force would be destroyed. The Prince was obliged to treat the Pustoons well and after giving much gold to them, they left the passage clear. But he reached Kabul and lost all equipments.
Olaf Careao tells us in his book ‘The Pathan’ that both Mughuls and Durranis committed forces to dominate them but no empire of which we have any record had ever succeeded in subjugating the tribes of Waziristan.
Source: (A Concise History of Afghanistan in 25 Volumes, Volume 1 By Hamid Wahed Alikuzai, page 290)
History of Pashtuns

Bannu was part of Mughal empire?i though KPK was not under mughal.