Water car: Engineer sues doctor for ‘trying to undermine’ his invention

[Jango]

Yeap and from the earlier formula we know you need 1 CaC2 to react with 2H20.

So 1kg of CaC2 will work with 2 liters of water

That's 100 rps for 80km (if you believe his figures for what 1 liter would give you)

Maybe Agha sahib was onto something!

Some mods to the engine, and a couple of others, and voila!!!

But wait, you still need electrolysis???

 

[Skull and Bones]

Best of luck to Pakistan for their ground breaking invention.

Now invent a nuclear powered engine, Pakistan has enough enriched uranium, prices will be quite cheap. "Awam ka ek hi sapna, har kisi ke pas ho atom bomb apna".

 

[VCheng]

Maybe Agha sahib was onto something!

Some mods to the engine, and a couple of others, and voila!!!

But wait, you still need electrolysis???

Adding the water kit adds the necessary stylish flourish to the hoax; after all, using water as a power source sounds so attractive!

 

[Jango]

Another suggestion by the great engineer was that some alternate generator can be used for getting power for electrolysis, which then defeats the whole purpose of this thing.

 

[bc040400065]

i think this so called engineer needs to know who he is talking to. dr Atta ur Rehman, a man known throughtout the world for his research in chemistry. i think this fraud engineer has lost his mind. if anyone want to know reality then watch his question answer interview with dr samar mubarakmand, clearly he had no answers to some of the basic questions about his so called invention.

 

[khail007]

These demonstrators are owner of water wells....

 

[forcetrip]

Whens the court date? Beating around this bush seems to be a waste of time.

 

[VCheng]

from: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/world/asia/boast-of-water-run-car-thrills-pakistan.html

Craving Energy and Glory, Pakistan Revels in Claim of Water-Run Car
By DECLAN WALSH
Published: August 4, 2012

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — In a nation thirsting for energy, he loomed like a messiah: a small-town engineer who claimed he could run a car on water.

The assertion — based on the premise that he had discovered a way to easily split the oxygen and hydrogen atoms in water molecules with almost no energy — would, if proven, represent a stunning breakthrough for physics and a near-magical solution to Pakistan’s desperate power crisis.

“By the grace of Allah, I have managed to make a formula that converts less voltage into more energy,” the professed inventor, Agha Waqar Ahmad, said in a telephone interview. “This invention will solve our country’s energy crisis and provide jobs to hundreds of thousands of people.”

Established scientists have debunked his spectacular claims, first made one month ago, saying they violate ironclad laws of physics. But across Pakistan, where crippling electricity cuts have left millions drenched in the sweat of a powerless summer, and where there is hunger for tales of homegrown glory, the shimmering mirage of a “water car” received a broad and serious embrace.

Federal ministers lauded Mr. Ahmad and his vehicle, sometimes at cabinet meetings. The stand-in minister for religious affairs, Khursheed Shah, appeared on television with him and took a ride in his small Suzuki rental, which was hooked up to a contraption that Mr. Ahmad described as a “water kit.” Respected talk show hosts suggested he should get state financing and protection.

The country’s most famous scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan — revered inside Pakistan as the father of the country’s nuclear weapons program and reviled elsewhere as a notorious figure in the international nuclear black market — gave it his imprimatur, too. “I have investigated the matter, and there is no fraud involved,” he told Hamid Mir, a popular television journalist, during a recent broadcast that sealed Mr. Ahmad’s celebrity.

The quest to harness chemical energy from water is a holy grail of science, offering the tantalizing promise of a world free from dependence on oil. Groups in other countries, including Japan, the United States and Sri Lanka, have previously made similar claims. They have been largely ignored.

Not so with Mr. Ahmad, even if he is an unlikely scientific prodigy. Forty years old and a father of five, he graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering in 1990 from a small technical college in Khairpur, in southern Sindh Province, he said in the interview. For most of his career he worked in a local police department. He is currently unemployed.

But he sprang up at a moment when Pakistan was intensely aware of its power shortcomings. Violent riots erupted across Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Provinces recently as temperatures in some places hovered around 110 degrees amid electricity shortages that stretched up to 20 hours per day. Chronic shortages of natural gas, which powers many cars and homes, result in lines snaking from gas stations. Energy politics are expected to play a prominent role in elections set to take place within the next 10 months.

In another measure of the issue, the United States government has donated heavily to electricity generation projects, hoping to win support from Pakistan’s largely hostile public; last week, Congress authorized $280 million for various hydroelectric projects.

News media commentators said the coverage of Mr. Ahmad’s claims was the Pakistani version of Britain’s “silly season,” when journalists and politicians embrace the unlikely during the annual lull in politics. But for established scientists, it was a symptom of a wider, more worrisome, ignorance of science.

It shows “how far Pakistan has fallen into the pit of ignorance and self-delusion,” wrote Pervez Hoodbhoy, an outspoken physics professor, in The Express Tribune, a national English-language daily. He added: “Our leaders are lost in the dark, fumbling desperately for a miracle; our media is chasing spectacle, not truth; and our great scientists care more about being important than about evidence.”

The “water car” is not the first unlikely episode in Pakistani science. In 2010 Atta ur-Rahman, head of the state higher education body, aired views that the United States government was financing a covert science project in Alaska that sought to manipulate the world’s weather and that could set off earthquakes, floods and tsunamis.

Dr. Rahman’s article incited a furious public debate with other scientists, notably Dr. Hoodbhoy, who has also sought to highlight a worrisome decline in academic standards in Pakistan.

Stories of widespread plagiarism, fake qualifications and doctorates granted under dubious circumstances have circulated in academic circles for several years. “We have had a flood of academic garbage,” Dr. Hoodbhoy said. The trend was inadvertently accelerated under the military ruler, Pervez Musharraf, who required all members of Parliament to hold a college degree — prompting some to acquire fake ones.

Pakistan is not lacking in academic talent. With 68 percent of the population under 30, according to the United Nations, education is a preoccupation among parents across the social spectrum. This year 200 Pakistani undergraduates will start at 50 different American colleges under the government-financed Fulbright educational exchange program.

Yet even the country’s academic achievements are mired in the old problems of politics, prejudice and religion.

The work of a Pakistani particle physicist, Abdus Salam, won him a Nobel Prize along with two others scientists in 1979, and it has been credited with paving the way for the discovery of what appears to be the Higgs boson particle, which was announced July 4.

But Dr. Salam, who died in 1996, is largely ignored in his homeland because he was a member of the Ahmadi sect, whose members suffer state-sponsored discrimination and, in recent years, attacks by violent extremists.

For his part, Mr. Ahmad brushed off his critics, claiming to have run the Suzuki for 250 miles on 10 liters of water.

“I am not concerned with theory. I have given a practical demonstration that a vehicle can run on water,” he said. “What more proof do these critics need?”

In a word, more. “Water car” jokes have circulated widely on Twitter, while an Internet comedy group, The Naked Tyrant, rolled out a spoof video featuring a religious man who claimed to make his car run on “pious deeds.”

And, as a reader of one newspaper noted in a letter to the editor: “What is odd is that the only specimen so far on display is the one fitted in his own car.”

Salman Masood contributed reporting.

 

[A.Rafay]

Still going on, Pakistanis at home dont want to know that this is a fraud but they insist that waqar Agha is a credible engineer and cant get him out of their heads.

This is a non efficient type of water kit, already made and sold in america with a manual which can only power a golf Cart, which he has made from scrap things from his backyard And Ofcourse he has copied the idea from them as these things are already available on Internet.

Even a whole guide is available on instructables to build your own home based water generator.

How to assemble a HHO Generator and why it works

THese people are poor waiting to run their motocycles and generators and cars on water as they now even cant afford CNG

Dr. Qadeer Khan’s work inspires me for water-run car: Agha Waqar
Karachi: Pakistani Scientist Agha Waqar Pathan says revolutionary steps of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan inspired him to invent a water-run car.
“I am serious about my invention and it will bring an end to energy crises and load shedding in Pakistan,” The News Tribe correspondent Nazir Siyal quoted him saying.
“Actually revolutionary steps of the government and nuclear scientist Dr. Qadeer Khan help me to convert all power generation units into water fuel kit.”
“Despite spending billions in Thar Coal Power Project, the desired results have not been produced yet,” commented Agha Waqar comparing his project with Thar coal project.
A well-known Pakistani Engineer Agha Waqar Pathan has successfully demonstrated several times running a car on water in presence of Federal Ministers, Scientists, Bureaucrats, Academics and Media persons.
But he complained that the government institutions and authorities were not serious to end energy crises and load shedding.
Replying to critical points raised on his project credibility, Agha was of view such elements did not not want a prosperous Pakistan and revolutionary changes in agriculture, energy sector, automobiles and technology.
Countrywide acknowledgements received to the Engineer Agha Waqar for achieving a crucial milestone of running a car on water, though some professionals say it has yet to be tested scientifically.
He has already successfully driven water car in Khairpur, Larkana, Hdyerabad, Karachi and Islamabad.

 

[A.Rafay]

https://www.facebook.com/WaterCarFraudQomiHeroAghaWaqarSeAghaBekaarBanGya

 

[Awesome]

Adding the water kit adds the necessary stylish flourish to the hoax; after all, using water as a power source sounds so attractive!

Yeah well, his supporters will say that shows good business acumen, to market the product right.

Acetylene powered car won't sell as fast as a water powered car and water is involved...

This is no invention, its been there for 2 decades, some guy just managed to market it and get a large market to be willing enough to take on the risks involved with it.

However if he fails to mention the risks then that's criminal.

You know, more than water-powered car this may just work out better for acetylene powered generators. It may be possible for a country like Pakistan to build devices that run on this power source on a stationary object than say one that fits on a car.

 

[VCheng]

Yeah well, his supporters will say that shows good business acumen, to market the product right.

Acetylene powered car won't sell as fast as a water powered car and water is involved...

This is no invention, its been there for 2 decades, some guy just managed to market it and get a large market to be willing enough to take on the risks involved with it.

However if he fails to mention the risks then that's criminal.

He is just a petty hoaxster. The real criminals are the ones promoting the fraud.

 

[Bratva]

 

[notsuperstitious]

Thanks god its a hoax. Villagers in central India were worried sleepless, as it is they don't have even enough water to drink.

 

[niaz]

He has invented something that is against the all the laws and principles that I have learnt in 45 years as a Chemical Engineer.

He claimed in the Hamid Mir TV talk show that Hydrogen is produced from water. No doubt if you electrolyse water (H2O) you will get Hydrogen. But energy required to split water is more than what you will get when you burn Hydrogen to produce energy/power because of the losses.

I have worked in oil refineries. Standard method producing hydrogen in the refinery as well as world-wide is thru steam reforming of natural gas (methane)

•The first step is to catalytically react methane with steam to form hydrogen and carbon monoxide.

•The carbon monoxide is made to react with steam to form additional hydrogen and carbon dioxide.

•The carbon dioxide and leftover carbon monoxide is removed using one of several adsorption processes, leaving hydrogen.

If this genius has discovered a cheap method of producing hydrogen from water, why stop with car fuel? Run everything including trains and aeroplanes on hydrogen produced from water. Better still, set up a plant near a river and produce unlimited amount of hydrogen to produce unlimited electric power and Pakistan's energy shortage will be no more. Sell this technology to the world and eliminate dependency on fossil fuels.

This is sure way of making more money than Bill Gates and breaking the power of the OPEC cartel in the bargain.

This guy deserves immediate Noble Prize.