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[Cobra Arbok]

That conversation was not with you, why are you so deeply offended?

In fact, I am sure I haven’t talked to you in months.

You came here to create fasad and fitnah and for no other reason.

I am not against Hindus, only radical Hindutva ideologues.

I am also not a fan of Gujurati liars (mostly Hindutva radicals) who claim to be anywhere from Pandits to Rajputs to further colonize Kashmir and East Punjab.

The reason I came was because the OP tagged me, so I felt I should give him my two cents. Everything I have stated is fact. The reason you stopped responding to me is because you know you have no facts to debate me, so you just call me a Hindutwa Muslim-hater.

And you should know that there are a lot of Rajput tribes native to Gujarat. But then again you think gujaratis are like South Indians despite being a western Indo-Aryan people, which shows your ignorance. BTW I am half Tamil, so I know more about Gujaratis and south Indians than you can ever imagine.

That part about Gujaratis "colonizing" Kashmir and Punjab is just hilarious and shows your inferiority complex.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

To call him minor is the height of ignorance.

The only noteworthy Persians would be during the Achaemenid Empire, the likes of Cyrus the Great.

Nader's Empire

After Nader's death in 1747, his nephew Ali Qoli (who may have been involved in the assassination plot) seized the throne and proclaimed himself Adil Shah ("The Just King"). He ordered the execution of all Nader's sons and grandsons, with the exception of the 13-year-old Shahrokh, the son of Reza Qoli. Meanwhile, Nadir's former treasurer, Ahmad Shah Abdali, had declared his independence by founding the Durrani Empire. In the process, the eastern territories were lost and in the following decades became part of Afghanistan, the successor-state to the Durrani Empire.

What was left of his empire was split into the Zand Empire, Durrani Empire, Kartli-Khaketi Kingdom and the Khanates of the Caucasus.

All his treasures were absorbed into the Durrani Empire, which became the Afghani empire.

 

[padamchen]

The only noteworthy Persians would be during the Achaemenid Empire, the likes of Cyrus the Great.

Please don't let the flame of racial inferiority burn you to a crisp.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Cobra Arbok]

This is going to be fun

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

Please don't let the flame of racial inferiority burn you to a crisp.

Cheers, Doc

Re read my post

 

[Cobra Arbok]

The only noteworthy Persians would be during the Achaemenid Empire, the likes of Cyrus the Great.

Nader's Empire

After Nader's death in 1747, his nephew Ali Qoli (who may have been involved in the assassination plot) seized the throne and proclaimed himself Adil Shah ("The Just King"). He ordered the execution of all Nader's sons and grandsons, with the exception of the 13-year-old Shahrokh, the son of Reza Qoli. Meanwhile, Nadir's former treasurer, Ahmad Shah Abdali, had declared his independence by founding the Durrani Empire. In the process, the eastern territories were lost and in the following decades became part of Afghanistan, the successor-state to the Durrani Empire.

What was left of his empire was split into the Zand Empire, Durrani Empire, Kartli-Khaketi Kingdom and the Khanates of the Caucasus.

All his treasures were absorbed into the Durrani Empire, which became the Afghani empire.

He definitely did not have a huge impact on south Asia. After his death, the Marathas would take the territory he once captured, and that would then be taken by the Durranis and later the Sikhs.

 

[padamchen]

Re read my post

Im assuming you've descended from Hindu converts.

There is nothing your civilization has achieved on a global scale that compares to Persians.

Therefore better not to comment. It sounds petty and envious. Nothing profound.

Cheers, Doc

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

Im assuming you've descended from Hindu converts.

There is nothing your civilization has achieved on a global scale that compares to Persians.

Therefore better not to comment. It sounds petty and envious. Nothing profound.

Cheers, Doc

You can assume all the way back to the Zoroaster. Because you're wrong.

 

[Yogijaat]

No matter how you spin it, many Pakistanis are descended from all of these empires and they all revolved around what is now Pakistan (with the exception of the Mughals). Many of them even belonged to the same race (Eastern Iranic) as many Pakistanis for goodness sake.



Wrong, they came from the Steppe.



He is as much a South Indian as he is a Punjabi hero, because of the fact that his ancestors came from the Punjab but he himself was from southern India.



He wasn't a Scythian.



After getting completely crippled by them. They destroyed Gupta trade with Europe and Central Asia, attacked right into the heart of their empire, permanently altered the caste system, almost completely wiped out Buddhism from the region (one of the major religions of the Guptas), and even brought an end to Classical Indian Civilisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta_Empire#Decline_of_the_empire



Wrong, in fact, some factions of the Huns actually outlived the Guptas.



Not just the Gurjara Pratihars, but also the Chauhans, Tomars, Solankis, Chavdas and Mauryans.



For some of them, yes, for others, I doubt it. I've seen far more Muslim than Hindu Chauhans. There are also more Muslim than Hindu Gujjars.

lol, i tell you what original Rajputs are from mount abu, Rajasthan, they are not some Punjabi tribe. The rajputs you find in Pakistan are of non royal lineage, this a big issue in Rajasthana, rajputswith royal lineage don't take others as rajputs.
Secondly, caste/ tribal system is a rigid concept only in Hinduism where inter caste marriage is not allowed and racial purity is maintained. This is not the case with islam, that's why hindu gujjars(real gujjars) don't take muslim gujjars as their own and inter marriage is also strictly prohibited. They even abhor the thought that a gujjar can be a muslim same for rajputs.

 

[padamchen]

Re read my post

Im assuming you've descended from Hindu converts.

There is nothing your civilization has achieved on a global scale that compares to Persians.

Therefore better not to comment. It sounds petty and envious. Nothing profound.

Cheers, Doc

You can assume all the way back to the Zoroaster. Because you're wrong.

You Indics (Vedic and aadimanoos) outnumber us 20 to 1.

Look at the global impact against that backdrop.

Cheers, Doc

lol, i tell you what original Rajputs are from mount abu, Rajasthan, they are not some Punjabi tribe. The rajputs you find in Pakistan are of non royal lineage, this a big issue in Rajasthana, rajputswith royal lineage don't take others as rajputs.
Secondly, caste/ tribal system is a rigid concept only in Hinduism where inter caste marriage is not allowed and racial purity is maintained. This is not the case with islam, that's why hindu gujjars(real gujjars) don't take muslim gujjars as their own and inter marriage is also strictly prohibited. They even abhor the thought that a gujjar can be a muslim same for rajputs.

It's a double edged sword.

You want numbers, you open the gates.

We both know what happens when that happens.

Cheers, Doc

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

You can assume all the way back to the Zoroaster. Because you're wrong.

lol, i tell you what original Rajputs are from mount abu, Rajasthan, they are not some Punjabi tribe. The rajputs you find in Pakistan are of non royal lineage, this a big issue in Rajasthana, rajputswith royal lineage don't take others as rajputs.
Secondly, caste/ tribal system is a rigid concept only in Hinduism where inter caste marriage is not allowed and racial purity is maintained. This is not the case with islam, that's why hindu gujjars(real gujjars) don't take muslim gujjars as their own and inter marriage is also strictly prohibited. They even abhor the thought that a gujjar can be a muslim same for rajputs.

You have done zero ethnic research or human migration study nor can prove anything you say with DNA fact.

Royal bloodline? What on earth is that?

You Indics (Vedic and aadimanoos) outnumber us 20 to 1.

You do realise modern Iranians have no resemblance to ancient Iranians (genetically speaking)

I.e the persians of today are nothing like the people of ancient persia.

That's like saying white British people built stone hedge.

 

[Yogijaat]

Royal bloodline? What on earth is that?

Ask a Rajasthani rajput what does a gol means, he will either ignore it or tell you he is not one of them.

 

[padamchen]

You do realise modern Iranians have no resemblance to ancient Iranians (genetically speaking)

@drmeson disagrees with you

I've (and all Zoroastrians privately) have pretty much said the same on this forum from the earliest Indo-Iranian wars with the likes of @Abii @Shahin Vatani @Surenas and now jokers like @Tokhme khar and @Bahram Esfandiari who "appreciate" our love for our land and going to actually "welcome" us back ....

Cheers, Doc

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

@drmeson disagrees with you

I've (and all Zoroastrians privately) have pretty much said the same on this forum from the earliest Indo-Iranian wars with the likes of @Abii @Shahin Vatani @Surenas and now jokers like @Tokhme khar and @Bahram Esfandiari who "appreciate" our love for our land and going to actually "welcome" us back ....

Cheers, Doc

It doesn't matter what you say or believe. It doesn't change reality.

@drmeson disagrees with you

I've (and all Zoroastrians privately) have pretty much said the same on this forum from the earliest Indo-Iranian wars with the likes of @Abii @Shahin Vatani @Surenas and now jokers like @Tokhme khar and @Bahram Esfandiari who "appreciate" our love for our land and going to actually "welcome" us back ....

Cheers, Doc

Tell me, when do you think Zoroaster lived?

 

[padamchen]

It doesn't matter what you say or believe. It doesn't change reality.



Tell me, when do you think Zoroaster lived?

About 3500 years ago.

Where are you going with his?

Cheers, Doc