wat if TTP says they will drop their arms if we pull out of US WoT?

[Ahmad]

Taliban are the failed policy of pakistan, GoP never thought that the Taliban would attack its own creator.

 

[SMC]

Taliban are the failed policy of pakistan, GoP never thought that the Taliban would attack its own creator.

Kid, you do not have any idea what you're talking about. I really mean NONE. ZERO. Stop being an armchair expert - which is what you are. The people who are attacking Pakistan were not created or nurtured by Pakistan.

 

[Ahmad]

Kid, you do not have any idea what you're talking about. I really mean NONE. ZERO. Stop being an armchair expert - which is what you are. The people who are attacking Pakistan were not created or nurtured by Pakistan.

what do you think how they came into existence? they were there long before the swat and SW operations, they used to fight in Afghanistan in great numbers(thanks to allah alot of them got killed there), it is strange to think that the effective and strong ISI and PA(that the pakistanis claim to be) were not aware of what were happening in their NW areas and FATA.

 

[SMC]

TTP is not the group that fought in Afghanistan. That was Afghan Mujhaideen who later became Afghan Taliban.

 

[Ahmad]

TTP is not the group that fought in Afghanistan. That was Afghan Mujhaideen who later became Afghan Taliban.

Stay un informed.

 

[gogbot]

Kid, you do not have any idea what you're talking about. I really mean NONE. ZERO. Stop being an armchair expert - which is what you are. The people who are attacking Pakistan were not created or nurtured by Pakistan.

let me breakdown what happened.

US created Taliban

Pakistan supported Taliban

Taliban cause societal breakdown in Afghanistan and tribal areas of Pakistan, Pak was busy on the other side of the country.

Taliban meet Kashmir militants though ISI

Kashmir Militants become full blood terrorists cells declaring twisted Jihad against India. Under Taliban teaching.

US comes back to kill Frankenstine(taliban)

Taliban leadership weakens.

Societal breakdown leads to fundamentalism In Areas within Pakistan.

This TTP appears magically, to combat Pakistan and its pro American Government.

Taliban does nothing to help Pakistan. i wonder why ?

 

[SMC]

Wrong information. TTP has been there for a while - even before 9/11 - but never had support or power. They were able to get support from Lal Masjid siege and funding through india to make them pretty strong. If you knew demographics of Tribal areas, you'd know that TTP and Afghan Taliban are in fact enemies of each other.

 

[gogbot]

Wrong information. TTP has been there for a while - even before 9/11 - but never had support or power. They were able to get support from Lal Masjid siege and funding through india to make them pretty strong. If you knew demographics of Tribal areas, you'd know that TTP and Afghan Taliban are in fact enemies of each other.

Then where is the Taliban now ?

 

[SMC]

I am not sure what you're trying to ask. TTP come mostly from South Waziristan. They are surrounded by Afghan Taliban in north and west (at least that's how it was before rah-e-nijat).

 

[Comet]

weather TTP gives this offer or not, I think we should get out of this WoT stuff.

 

[gogbot]

I am not sure what you're trying to ask. TTP come mostly from South Waziristan. They are surrounded by Afghan Taliban in north and west (at least that's how it was before rah-e-nijat).

well you say TTP is not only a separate entity but also the enemy of the Taliban.

Shouldn't they then fight TTP.

This afghan taliban is also In Pakistan

TTP is also In Pakistan

we all know TTP is fighting Pakistan.

What is the other Taliban doing ?

where are they ?

 

[Spitfighter]

JESUS CHRIST!

That thing looks like it could take down an elephant!!

what kind of spider is that? a black widow?

 

[TruthSeeker]

Scientists have unearthed a completely new species of spider hiding in sand dunes on the Israel-Jordan border.

With a legspan that stretches 5.5 inches, the spider, called Cerbalus aravensis, is the biggest of its type in the Middle East. “It is rare to find a new species of spider — at least around this part of the world — which is so big,” said biologist Uri Shanas of the University of Haifa-Oranim in Israel, who discovered the arachnid.

Read More Giant Spider Species Discovered in Middle Eastern Sand Dunes | Wired Science | Wired.com


This spider may have been created by Hezbollah!

 

[Spitfighter]

^^ goddamn that thing is ugly!

I think the first spider can easily take the other one down though with its proxy army of tiny spiders

 

[EjazR]

The group named TTP was formed in late 2007 primarily in response to the Lal Masjid operations as well as continued drone attacks in Waziristan areas.

A good discussion by retired Pakistani officers is here on the origins of TTP

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/37342-jirga-episode-ttp-origins-retired-officers.html