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ISLAMABAD: The uneasy truth of Pakistan’s less-than-trusting relationship with the US was acknowledged by a key member of the federal cabinet on Tuesday when Defence Minister Khawaja Asif drew a large question mark on the reliability of Washington as a friend of Pakistan.

“The Americans have been our friends for a long time – since the 60s and the 70s – but their reliability is relative,” he told a packed audience at the Institute of Strategic Studies.

He did not stop there. “American foreign policy has been disastrous for this region,” he said, referring to South Asia and the Middle East, adding that, “for all times to come, the geography of this region has been changed”.

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Mr Asif warned that Pakistan had to be very careful. “We are still paying the price for our intervention in Afghanistan. The disintegration of this region on sectarian and ethnic lines is in process.”

He said that US ‘disappointment’ with Pakistan’s contribution to the ‘war on terror’ was unjustified. “We’ve had a historic relationship with the US since independence. It has had its highs and lows,” he said.

“Recently, the COAS had an extensive visit to the US. It was a good visit and we need to pursue this relationship and build the trust that is not there 100 per cent, at least,” he said, admitting that Islamabad did not necessarily see eye-to-eye with Washington in the context of the continuing war on terrorism.

He also called the recent US Defence Department statement about the objectives of the military operation in the tribal areas “very discomforting”.

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“This shows that despite our sacrifices, the Americans still do not trust us completely. That is sad, but it should be clear that Pakistan’s national objectives are paramount for us,” he said.

“The Islamic State (IS) was propped up to fight against the regime in Syria and now the world looks on in horror. We may feel the repercussions [of the US foreign policy failure] in the region for many years,” Mr Asif said.

He said that US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel -- who stepped down just after two years in office – was the latest casualty of the failure of US foreign policy in the region.

During his remarks, Mr Asif took pains to note that he was airing his own opinion and that what he was saying did not necessarily reflect government policy. But the way he framed his points, it seemed as if he was building a case for an alliance with another global power, one that was nothing like the untrusting US.

Regional powers

After the world became unipolar, he said, global instability had only increased. Advocating multi-polarity as ideal for a global balance of power, he said that Russia and China were the two largest powers in the region. “We should seek solutions to regional problems from our own shores, not from across the pond,” he said.

He called Russia “an emerging superpower”, one that was economically well-established despite sanctions against it. “Being in the same region, Pakistan must have a sound relationship with Russia,” he said.

He said that Pakistan had recently concluded a very important agreement with Russia; one which would allow it to purchase armaments from the Russian Federation. The arms that Pakistan was getting from Russia were going to be used primarily for anti-terrorism operations, Mr Asif said.

“Pakistan must pursue its own national security goals; we don’t want to antagonise our neighbours, countries of the region and greater powers,” he said.

The defence minister began his history lesson with Afghanistan, saying, “[Pakistan’s] intervention or interference in Afghanistan in the 80s was more of a proxy war and we were the proxy”. Pakistan as a nation, he said, still continued to pay the price for that.

He said, “Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, right at the outset, pledged that there will be no interference in Afghan affairs from our side. In the last two to three weeks, we’ve seen COAS go to Afghanistan and the Afghan president visiting Pakistan. The PM told Ashraf Ghani that we must start anew, turn a new page. The Afghan president responded: ‘No, we have to start a new book’.”

“Without peace in Afghanistan, there can be no peace; peace will be very elusive in Pakistan,” he said, adding that the situation in Afghanistan was also a matter of national security for Pakistan. “We cannot live in isolation or forget what is happening next door,” he said.

India

Talking about India, he said, “[Pakistan’s] peace overtures have been misconstrued as weakness by our eastern neighbour, but I believe that our problems can be solved through peace and negotiations.”

“When PM Nawaz Sharif came to power, he pledged to work with India. It was alright in the beginning… but since the last few months, things have deteriorated on the border,” he said.

Referring to the sharp Indian reaction to a recent meeting between Pakistani diplomats and Kashmiri leaders in New Delhi, Mr Asif said, “The reaction has been rather overstated and the way India reacted to this meeting was a setback to peace efforts.” Following the meetings, India cancelled secretary-level talks with Pakistan, which the minister said was “harmful for both countries”.

“We still wish and strive for peace with India and will resume the process of building a lasting friendship between the two countries,” he said, adding that he hoped that the Saarc summit would yield “something less butter"

Washington not a reliable friend: Asif - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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Mr.Asif if US was not a friend then why was PA Chief Raheel in America recently?
If this man is making all these mendacious statements because he thinks Russia has become Pak's new BFF then I'm sure Russia must be sniggering at Pak right now, for it knows its game well.
Mr. Defence Minister should 've been careful with his words.Lolzz
 
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Mr.Asif if US was not a friend then why was PA Chief Raheel in America recently?
If this man is making all these mendacious statements because he thinks Russia has become Pak's new BFF then I'm sure Russia must be sniggering at Pak right now, for it knows its game well.
Mr. Defence Minister should 've been careful with his words.Lolzz

General Raheel did give a wish list to pentagon guys but the Unreliable Americans
have not responded favorably and here people are celebrating the delivery of more F16s
 
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Mr.Asif if US was not a friend then why was PA Chief Raheel in America recently?
If this man is making all these mendacious statements because he thinks Russia has become Pak's new BFF then I'm sure Russia must be sniggering at Pak right now, for it knows its game well.
Mr. Defence Minister should 've been careful with his words.Lolzz


A sudden visit from Russian Minister is now become a reason for celebration in PakGovt.They actually think they should have to jump from US camp to Russian Camp.
But Pak military knows the seriousness of situation.
Top to bottom of Pak Govt and its leadership is considerably vulnerable to sabotaging of US agencies and the influence of US aid in Pak budget and IMF /WB support.
The minister is just dreaming thats all.
 
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The opportunity has come for Pakistan and its two neighbors to make a fresh start and focus towards the economic and social prosperity of their region. Let historic hostility and mistrust be just that-a chapter in history. This region has so much potential in terms of economic growth that it seems such a waste to witness it bleed at the hands of militancy. These militant groups, regardless of what soil they operate on or what ethnicity they belong to, have no religion or identity other than that of ruthless mercenaries who are murdering their own countrymen and hindering foreign investment and trade. We are there to support the Afghan National Security Forces as they battle the militants inside Afghanistan, and with the Pakistani military's operation against the militants in Pakistan, we can greatly dismantle these threats.

The new Afghan leadership has extended a hand of partnership, and, as we have said before, the Pakistani military and the ANSF have our support in their battles against militancy; the time is right to move forward towards regional peace and prosperity.

Haroon Ahmad
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We need to stop thinking that US was, is, can be or will be Pakistan's friend. This is a complete lie. US is the contemporary empire while we are its long term client state. The best we can hope for is to either elevate the transactional relationship to a partnership level or scrap it altogether.
 
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Finally someone is grasping the futility of having an alliance with a nation ready to betray on each occassion. Lets not forget the Presler Amendment, the moment we were not needed in Afghanistan they brutalized us. US is a terrorist country and behaves like a mafia.

Clemenceau said something about the Americans which is very very true. Centcom is just a robot. Comments you find in one place you find in the other as well. In fact their only purpose is for the terrorists to remain. What else would justify their occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

We Pakistanis truly need to ask ourselves a simple question. Is there any guarantee that in the next few years US isn't going to abandon us as they did after Soviet Afghan war? We need an alternative foreign policy. We have become far too dependent on the USA.
 
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We need to stop thinking that US was, is, can be or will be Pakistan's friend. This is a complete lie. US is the contemporary empire while we are its long term client state. The best we can hope for is to either elevate the transactional relationship to a partnership level or scrap it altogether.

There are no friends or enemies in international geopolitics, only aligned or opposed national interests, so you pose a fair comment. Just how will Pakistan raise itself to a "partnership" level, or how will it wean itself off US support, are the real important questions, to which you should provide some answers, if possible. Either outcome is not very likely and the transactional relationship is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.
 
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Your request for military aid includin. More falcon block 52 have Bern denied hence the guy is suggesting the USA is not reliable.

Obl in Pakistan any body . Need to look at ourselves first and ask why is usa not reliable
 
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There are no friends or enemies in international geopolitics, only aligned or opposed national interests, so you pose a fair comment. Just how will Pakistan raise itself to a "partnership" level, or how will it wean itself off US support, are the real important questions, to which you should provide some answers, if possible. Either outcome is not very likely and the transactional relationship is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.

There were three pillars of Pakistan's transactional relationship with the US.

One was security the Second one was economic assistance and Third was food. In regards to security Pakistan no longer needs the US to defend itself since we have our nuclear deterrent and the fact that we are producing a lot of military gear by ourselves. Right now Pakistan imports ultra high tech systems for which there are multiple suppliers available. For instance we can buy Ukrainian, European or Chinese aircrafts to replace our C-130s if the US is unwilling to sell their replacements.

In regards to economic assistance, we need to fix our economy and become independent of US assistance, IMF and WB. That can be done by joining hands with the newly formed Asian Bank and by greater economic management. Some economists have suggested that if Pakistan can collect taxes from 15% of its population it would no longer need any foreign economic assistance.

In regards to food, we are already independent.
 
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Your request for military aid includin. More falcon block 52 have Bern denied hence the guy is suggesting the USA is not reliable.

Obl in Pakistan any body . Need to look at ourselves first and ask why is usa not reliable


F-16 blk 52's were bought from our own money genius wake up stop living in a fantasy world full of hate .... for the last time.
 
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It is a well known fact that the US is a reliable friend only to Usrael and the EU (a.k.a NATO).
Both areas that Pakistan's minister of defense has pointed to in the article above have in a way or another, the presence of Usrael in them, if one follows the time track of events in both areas, one can see it very clearly. And we all know that Usrael is a Jocker in the card game politics the west is playing in those regions. One also can see this entity as a four faceted Jocker for the global game.
 
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There were three pillars of Pakistan's transactional relationship with the US.

One was security the Second one was economic assistance and Third was food. In regards to security Pakistan no longer needs the US to defend itself since we have our nuclear deterrent and the fact that we are producing a lot of military gear by ourselves. Right now Pakistan imports ultra high tech systems for which there are multiple suppliers available. For instance we can buy Ukrainian, European or Chinese aircrafts to replace our C-130s if the US is unwilling to sell their replacements.

In regards to economic assistance, we need to fix our economy and become independent of US assistance, IMF and WB. That can be done by joining hands with the newly formed Asian Bank and by greater economic management. Some economists have suggested that if Pakistan can collect taxes from 15% of its population it would no longer need any foreign economic assistance.

In regards to food, we are already independent.


I will accept that Pakistan, as a nuclear state, has the means keep itself secure, undoubtedly.

However, the rest of your post does not measure up. Even though a few alternatives might be available, US-supplied military equipment remains the first preference for Pakistan's military. The less said about the economic dependence, the better, at least for another decade or two. And finally, Pakistan is only barely able to meet its food needs right now, and increasingly likely to fall short with its ever increasing population and lack of water resources.

Therefore, the relationship is likely to stay substantially the same for the time being.
 
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