Was the Bangladeshi MIG 29's necessary?

[damiendehorn]

you want to say that those BD living in india are all above 55 , and you want me ask the next generation who just dream & looks to same oppertunity to go to india ...

No i am talking about IN Bangladesh, stop trying to divert the topic, bring in the crap about 15 million BD in india. You said majority Bangladeshis support india, sorry to disappoint you, but you need to come to Dhaka and find out how the people actually feel.

 

[luckyyy]

No i am talking about IN Bangladesh, stop trying to divert the topic, bring in the crap about 15 million BD in india. You said majority Bangladeshis support india, sorry to disappoint you, but you need to come to Dhaka and find out how the people actually feel.

lets ask you you only , where you will choose for your future venture , isn't it india only..

 

[damiendehorn]

majority of bangladeshis are pro-india...

here you go just to remind you what you said.

 

[damiendehorn]

lets ask you you only , where you will choose for your future venture , isn't it india only..

No! I already have a venture in Bangladesh; we outsource web solutions from the UK to developers in Bangladesh, and a knitwear factory with 2000+ employs. So you see why would I need to look at india?

 

[luckyyy]

No! I already have a venture in Bangladesh; we outsource web solutions from the UK to developers in Bangladesh, and a knitwear factory with 2000+ employs. So you see why would I need to look at india?

!)coz europe slowing down
2)europe allowed duty free import to pakistani textile
3) coz india considering give duty free entry to textile from BD..

all BD road leads to india , including your , better makeup you mantality , it will be helpfull to you in future..

 

[damiendehorn]

Let's see I charge £55 per man hour for project management/design/development, with a min project spend of £10,000 here in the UK (our 2010 billing were in excess of £455,000) and exported garments £3m plus through Arcadia, and you want me to reduce my margins to export to india?

The truth is we already have a well developed client relationship and we don't have the capacity to expand to india yet (may be in the future).

 

[luckyyy]

Let's see I charge £55 per man hour for project management/design/development, with a min project spend of £10,000 here in the UK (our 2010 billing were in excess of £455,000) and exported garments £3m plus through Arcadia, ?

The truth is we already have a well developed client relationship and we don't have the capacity to expand to india yet (may be in the future).

you have to reduce margine to export to europe now..
neither you can compete with cheap/subsidize chinese taxtil nor stand anywhere after dutyfree prices to pakistani taxtile , next few years will be hard for BD textile export to europe.....

 

[damiendehorn]

you have to reduce margine to export to europe now..
neither you can compete with cheap/subsidize chinese taxtil nor stand anywhere after dutyfree prices to pakistani taxtile , next few years will be hard for BD textile export to europe.....

luckyyy, you don't have a clue about this industry do you? We are already taking market share from chinese manufacturers, infact we are the most cost effective production source in the world right now. Anyway when you have done your research, come to Bangladesh and my cousin ill be happy to give you a guided tour.

Right now though I am concentrating on the IT side of the business and brand dev.

 

[Zabaniyah]

India is a shark and you are a fish...stay beside us you will stay safe..confront us you will be devoured.

This is a defense forum, not a forum for nationalistic extremism.

US is now happy with C-17 globe masterIII deal...

India will make Russia happy with the Mi28 attack heli deal...

Indo-Russia relations not depend on a single deal, during the past we inducted french made mirages, it didn't affected our relations at that time.

I was replying to eastwatch's previous post about the rumor that Russia got very angry at India over the fighter jet competition, which made absolutely no sense at all regarding Indo-Russ relations (read eastwatch's post).

I don't know what the fuss is about over India invading Bangladesh. Yes, there are longstanding issues between India and Bangladesh, but no need for additional expensive jets as far as Bangladesh is concerned.

After all, what is it worth fighting for when it comes to invading Bangladesh? Saddam invaded Kuwait in order to control oil resources in the region. He failed miserably.

Allow me to elaborate for the sake of the "fanboys" here:
Bangladesh is a long way away from benchmarking the same standards as the Military of India, it would be politically and financially foolish to invest in the Bangladesh military order to match with India. Let alone nuclear weapons, to which we aren't even close in terms of technology, organization and finance!

After all, India is nuclear armed. And under no circumstances can Bangladesh have a bargaining chip to counter India, especially seeing from how things have been going in Bangladesh for the past 40+ years. I have seen how Bangladesh's atomic agency has been run, boy it is a sad story.

Israel is different, and they are very smart and strong as well. Not a bunch of hoodlums as in Bangladesh.

In fact, if India dares militarily invade Bangladesh, it would in fact compromise India's security. All sorts of shenanigans will take place in West Bengal and Assam. And there are those hujis we have come to fear. We all know what happened in Iraq. And then, there is the UNSC.

So, considering the costs relative to the benefits: Would India military invade Bangladesh? The simple answer is no. Most Indians states would oppose reunification anyways.

Bangladesh also happens to be the largest contributor to UN peacekeeping. And we should be very proud of that.

Although, it would make more sense to replace BAF's aging fleet of A-5s. FC-1 and the FC-10 are good options.

There are more effective and efficient ways to counter Indian influence. And that starts at home with the commitment of all Bangladeshis. Not just a small group of people. Everyone has his/her role to play in the well-being of the country, not just the military. And that is an important part of democracy.

 

[Zabaniyah]

you have to reduce margine to export to europe now..
neither you can compete with cheap/subsidize chinese taxtil nor stand anywhere after dutyfree prices to pakistani taxtile , next few years will be hard for BD textile export to europe.....

The EU and US already gave duty free access to Bangladeshi made garments. Bangladesh produces the highest quality garments in the world.

And the subject is about defense. Why bring this up??

Think before you say something stupid.

 

[Roybot]

You need to get a reality check mate, go to dhaka and ask around. The truth is those over 55 the majority still have good feelings to india, the older generation still remember the war of independence, but these are dying out fast, real fast. The younger generation who will take over soon have really bad impression of india, lots of negative media news, etc.

So you see, the passage of time is not on your side, either india decides to bring in policies that get them better preception or except the reality.

How does it matter to India. Lot of countries have bad opinion about America, does America give a damn? No it doesn't. If you really think India needs Bangladesh more than Bangldesh needs India then I just have one word for you, delusion.

Having said that though, I would like India to mend its ties with Bangladesh. The right way, no appeasement though.

 

[damiendehorn]

There are more effective and efficient ways to counter Indian influence. And that starts at home with the commitment of all Bangladeshis. Not just a small group of people. Everyone has his/her role to play in the well-being of the country, not just the military. And that is an important part of democracy.

Very true, but we are a very young nation with a lot of problems to solve, most of our own making unforunately. Give it time, things will change, i used to travell to Thailand a lot durring the late 80s and have witnessed the development there, a lot parallels our own dev now, so just give it time, we will get there.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Very true, but we are a very young nation with a lot of problems to solve, most of our own making unforunately. Give it time, things will change, i used to travell to Thailand a lot durring the late 80s and have witnessed the development there, a lot parallels our own dev now, so just give it time, we will get there.

Hey, so is India

I love Bangkok. To me, it is the most beautiful city in the world. And yes, it has made tremendous advances.

As far as Bangladesh goes, I don't see much of a future unless there is a change in leadership. Khaleda Zia is just so hallow and weak. Hasina is evil - seriously.

 

[damiendehorn]

Well, I have to say I prefer London, though Bangkok was fun. How long have you been there? Are you a student or working?

Off topic what is the price of 1500 sf flat there now?

 

[damiendehorn]

Getting back to topic, the mig29s were a waste of resources, very poor decision. I hope this gov is smart enough to avoid the same mistake...Should rather concentrate on economic dev, once we have wealth to afford these toys in say 10-15 years hen purchace them, but now a few mid/long range sam systems with refurbished f16s would be enough.