Was Sheikh Mujib Ur Rahman a Ghadaar of Pakistan, Some Mind Boggling Videos

[SIPRA]

Whenever someone feels bored, he/she opens some ridiculous, controversial and futile thread on PDF, and "halla gulla" starts. Bangladesh is now a sovereign country; it's creation has already been extensively deliberated upon, and there is hardly any benefit in discussing, whether Sheikh Mujeeb was "ghaddar" or not. This is what is precisely called: "Mootar wichon machhiyan taulna".

 

[Goritoes]

Pakistan made a mistake for not electing Bibi Fatima Jinnah, if Ayub Khan was stopped at the moment for using this traitor card and taking over the Govt, Pakistan would've been a whole different country and nation, we have humiliated the women who from the start fought along with Jinnah for the independence of this nation and she was called a Ghaddar in the end, everything Pakistan gets is what they deserve unfortunately.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

Team there were a bunch of moderators and some other members who were interested in seeing the documentary (promo) for Jhara - Winds from the East (About 1971 War). Can u either DM me or let me know who is interested, so I can send where to access. I was sent my access today, and I did inquire if I can share and was given the thumbs up. It is available (promo) to see on a Vimeo link.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Politics is the art of winning people and not alienating them. Hopefully one day all the communities of Pakistan and beyond will UNITE firmly to form a mighty and great nation of REAL Pakistan as envisaged by the Muslims of South Asia.

And we stop supporting corrupt leaders who stashed their illegal money in European markets as well as end dynasty based politics.

 

[Pak Nationalist]

He made this speech post-Agartala conspiracy. The problem was that confederation was not acceptable to West Pakistani intelligentsia, and it would be like asking for one for all federating units today. I, however, believe it was a wrong move. Geography could not have ensured a strong federation. Confederation was the answer. Pakistan lost its 70% export base in 1971. If one views things from a historical perspective. The economic shock of the fall of Dhaka is something we have still not emerged from. Bhutto did the rest by nationalizing corporations that could become Mittals, Ambannis and Tatas of Pakistan had the folly of nationalization not been carried out. Pakistan has not been able to recuperate from these losses since, and today we are trapped in a vicious cycle. I have little hope of us doing any better in the near future.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

He made this speech post-Agartala conspiracy. The problem was that confederation was not acceptable to West Pakistani intelligentsia, and it would be like asking one for all federating units today. Pakistan lost its 70% export base in 1971. If one views things from a historical perspective. The economic shock of the fall of Dhaka is something we have still not emerged from. Bhutto did the rest by nationalizing corporations that could become Mittals, Ambannis and Tatas of Pakistan had the folly of nationalization not been carried out. Pakistan has not been able to recuperate from these losses since, and today we are trapped in a vicious cycle. I have little hope of us doing any better in the near future.

Documentary coming - check out the promo! Lucky enough to see portions of the final product. It is eye opening also nuts why this was not made earlier.

Password: rava1971

 

[Pak Nationalist]

Documentary coming - check out the promo! Lucky enough to see portions of the final product. It is eye opening also nuts why this was not made earlier.

Password: rava1971

Appears to be a very riveting work. When is it being released? Thank you for sharing.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

Appears to be a very riveting work. When is it being released? Thank you for sharing.

I think in Dec in line with the anniversary.
Riveting is exactly it. I was invited for an early preview. It blows my mind, also makes me angry that we never made something like this to counter all the falsehoods and narratives.

 

[khail007]

Going through the history of all the proclaimed GHADAAR politicians, I found one thing in common, all of them fell out with the top man of the Establishment during their era. The cardinal mistake by Sheikh Mujib was that he fully supported the rival candidate(Fatima Jinnah) against Field Marshall Ayub Khan in the presidential elections of 1965. A RED mark was put on his name since then and he was never to be made the PM of united Pakistan.
In the elections of 1970, he got twice as many seats as Bhutto. But greedy Bhutto played as a tool of the establishment against Mujib and acted as a big spoiler in putting him to POWER.
Below are a few videos that might give us a different perspective of Mujib as a leader of United Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1438092591912865793

In 1965 with Madar e Millats election campaign.
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Fatima Jinnah won a landslide from Bengal with the help of Mujib but the results were rigged and Ayub became the president of united Pakistan. The Bengalis never forgot this and became to ponder on the insignificance of their Votes and Rights.
(Many Bengalis came on a Pakistani passport to the UK in the late 60s and many still revere it)
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I KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DID ...

 

[SIPRA]

He made this speech post-Agartala conspiracy. The problem was that confederation was not acceptable to West Pakistani intelligentsia, and it would be like asking for one for all federating units today. I, however, believe it was a wrong move. Geography could not have ensured a strong federation. Confederation was the answer. Pakistan lost its 70% export base in 1971. If one views things from a historical perspective. The economic shock of the fall of Dhaka is something we have still not emerged from. Bhutto did the rest by nationalizing corporations that could become Mittals, Ambannis and Tatas of Pakistan had the folly of nationalization not been carried out. Pakistan has not been able to recuperate from these losses since, and today we are trapped in a vicious cycle. I have little hope of us doing any better in the near future.

We committed only one mistake. When negotiations, between ZAB and SMR, failed in March 1971, to arrive at a consensus, regarding future constitution of Pakistan, on federal basis; Pakistan shall itself have granted independence to EP, instead of going for counter-insurgency operations, with clear indications of an impending un-winnable war with India.

 

[blueazure]

Ofcourse now glorifying Mujib what else to expect from pmln team members
Btw I do recommend you read dead reckoning for a more complete picture

what did mujib do wrong ?

asking a representation based on seats ?

isnt this called democracy ?

im lost here

 

[Falconless]

General Zias of BD and Pakistan were once keen to make a confederation of both countries but India sabotaged that plan

I’d love to read more on this, any sources?

 

[khawar khurshid]

There is no doubt Mujeeb was ghaddar, as it's proved by his actions. Pakistan was created on the basis of two nation theory or Islam, but Bangladesh was created on Bengali nationalism, Mujeeb have absolute majority in East Pakistan but not have won single seat from West Pakistan on the other hand Bhutto have majority in West Pakistan but no representation in East Pakistan, both parties lack representation of both parts of Pakistan, if Awami League would had come to power then there would be no representation of people of west Pakistan in the government, as west Pakistan was power house of united Pakistan because majority of establishment belongs to West Pakistan, the only solution which would have saved Pakistan was unity government of Mujeeb and Bhutto, but Mujeeb, Bhutto and establishment worked on their personal agenda, which is based upon protection of self interest rather than save Pakistan.

 

[Falconless]

Awami League would had come to power then there would be no representation of people of west Pakistan

We were and are a parliamentary democracy, PPP would have been the opposition party. And it wasn’t like that we didn’t have Bengali PM’s before Mujeeb.

 

[khawar khurshid]

We were and are a parliamentary democracy, PPP would have been the opposition party. And it wasn’t like that we didn’t have Bengali PM’s before Mujeeb.

But Pakistan also a federation and a peculiar state as it's both arms have distance of 1000 miles, and as a federation both arms should have representation in the government.