Was Russia enticed to invade Ukarine?

[Hamartia Antidote]

That was during the Cold War. Things were different then. After the Soviet collapse, the maps were redrawn, with Russia losing influence in Eastern Europe. NATO was created to counter the Soviet bloc. After its collapse, the expansion of NATO is nothing but provocative and aggressive.

The only thing "provocative" is for these small countries (like Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia) wanting to make sure the Russians don't pull another 1940's Stalin style forced takeover of their free countries.

Apparently they aren't very worried about Western countries doing that....

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

In the same way the US enticed saddam to invade Kuwait, and the same way they enticed Gaddafi to invade Chad.

Putin has fallen for the same ruse, but this time the US won’t manage to take him out

Well actually for years we have been trying to entice Putin into invading the island of Stromboli off of Italy but he wouldn't take the bait.

So Ukraine was the backup plan..and he apparently fell for it.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Hi members,

It is just a thought that somehow US wanted Russia to indulge in a preferrably long war so that it can drian Russia as a threat to 'real' NATO (pun) so that It can focus on Pacific. China had been world's workhorse since centuries. It got idle in 19th and 20th century but regained its ancient status. See this documentary to understand more.

Now, if there is any power which can challange the US is China. China has become economic power and expanding its Naval and missile capabilities. However, China's open access to Pacific and Indian occean is 'blocked' by its neighbours. US or its allies 'controlling' seas through Philapines, Taiwan, Okinawa, SK, India, Australia etc means that it is pivotal for the US to dominate seas so that it has some bargain against China's trade. We know that tarde mainly occurrs through sea. So think sea security is a cuurency or 'tribute' which can be cashed China's trade.

So, the win-win for the US is that either Ukarine become part of NATO and Russia accepts that, or Russia invades it. As IK said the US politicians can have 'good wars' as long as it can benefit the US. So, Russian invasion can be a good omen for the EU as it can prolong, even if it doesn't Russia will be sanctioned. Therefore, even if Russian increases its trade with China, (China cannot be sanctioned for that) so securing China's lifeline (sea routes) is like controlling Russia's life line. I know 70-80% EU's gas imports are from Russia, but Russia won't stop that as it is good money.

Your thoughts.

@gambit @PanzerKiel @Joe Shearer

What a childish question. Is Russia a kindergarten child that a lolly was teased and it ran for it across the road with hands stretched out?

 

[Goenitz]

What a childish question. Is Russia a kindergarten child that a lolly was teased and it ran for it across the road with hands stretched out?

Don't go literally I mean.. It was more like a magnetic pull. The russia had to interviene as
1. to block anti-missile deployment
2. to stop smuggling, infiltration, evesdropping, and possible invasion as the terrain is flat between Kiev till Moscow (except Caucasus)

 

[fallschirmjager786]

Don't go literally I mean.. It was more like a magnetic pull. The russia had to interviene as
1. to block anti-missile deployment
2. to stop smuggling, infiltration, evesdropping, and possible invasion as the terrain is flat between Kiev till Moscow (except Caucasus)

No one has to do anything. Your basically justifying INdian actions against Pakistan. Going by your logic all nations should be at war with each other constantly.