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I was going through Wikileaks data and came across a USA stratfor company intelligence report about Pakistan's Jf-17 and possible J-20 deal. Thought I should make a thread and get the views of the community.



On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor

Fwd: [EastAsia] CHINA/PAKISTAN/MIL - More on JF-17 Thunder and Other
Military Assistance


An update:

China is in talks with Pak about the J-20 as well.

There is also mention of China launching a satellite for Pak in August
2011. I believe this was already in the works, but just being reaffirmed
here.

Even if these are already in the works, there is clearly an attempt to
stress these military deals in the media.

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Subject: [EastAsia] CHINA/PAKISTAN/MIL - More on JF-17 Thunder and Other
Military Assistance
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:14:55 -0500
From: Melissa Taylor <melissa.taylor@stratfor.com>
Reply-To: East Asia AOR <eastasia@stratfor.com>
To: East Asia AOR <eastasia@stratfor.com>, OS@stratfor.com

Contradictory dates of delivery, but the June 2012 date is clearly the
more realistic.
China to provide Pakistan 50 Thunder jets, talks for stealth on
May 19, 2011
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/c...n-50-thunder-jets-talks-for-stealth-on-106991

Beijing: China has agreed to immediately provide Pakistan 50 new JF-17
Thunder multi-role jets under a co-production agreement even as talks are
on for more fighter aircraft including those with stealth technology.

China will immediately provide 50 JF-17 Thunder aircraft to Pakistan, an
unnamed official was quoted as saying by the Dawn daily.

"We will get these planes in weeks," he said, adding that a formal
agreement to that effect was likely to be signed today.
The official said Pakistan and China were already jointly producing the
JF-17 aircraft, but these 50 planes would be equipped with more
sophisticated avionics.

He said the war planes to be fully funded by China would help bolster
Pakistan's defence and add to tactical capability of its air force.
The News daily reported that it is likely that these planes will be
supplied by June next year.

It added that the two countries are also discussing the supply of Chinese
J-20 stealth jets and Xiaolong/FC-1 multi-purpose light fighter aircraft
to Pakistan.

They are discussing the mode of payment and the number of planes to be
provided to Pakistan, the report said. With the supply of the new
fighters, Pakistan Air Force will now have a total of 260 Chinese jets,
making them the mainstay of the force.

Meanwhile, in a sign of greater cooperation between the two countries,
China will also launch a satellite for Pakistan on August 14.

The satellite will supply "multifarious data" to Pakistan, the report
said.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, who was on a visit to China, said both
sides had agreed to increase defence cooperation and China had assured
Pakistan of help in enhancing the capacity of its armed forces.

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/...a-pakistan-mil-more-on-jf-17-thunder-and.html
 
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those 50 JF-17 China offered back in 2011 when after Osama's Possible death in Abotabad US and Pakistan was brink of a war ... but these 50 Jets never come to Pakistan, and for J-20 its just Rumors nothing concrete
 
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those 50 JF-17 China offered back in 2011 when after Osama's Possible death in Abotabad US and Pakistan was brink of a war ... but these 50 Jets never come to Pakistan, and for J-20 its just Rumors nothing concrete
Was going through the data dump and came across this report I thought I might share it. This is American assessment who knows what has been going on undercover. If some has stealth tech no one will ever disclose. The F117 was not disclosed by USA until one got shot in Siberia. If Pakistan has a stealth fighter jet they will never admit it thou. Rather they would keep it stealth.

I also came across a report of JF -17 being designed as a stealth version but it had too much speculation.
 
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At the level of 'deep State to deep State', Pakistan and China are very very close. In the last few years, I have been told, China and Pakistan will become almost same sovereign territory.

Lips of Wisdom must remain closed...tightly.

There is no such thing as Deep state in Pak or China. But you know that already.

Sino-Pak Cooperation is about mutual trust and co-development in order to create a peaceful environment for progress.
 
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Lips of Wisdom must remain closed...tightly.

There is no such thing as Deep state in Pak or China. But you know that already.

Sino-Pak Cooperation is about mutual trust and co-development in order to create a peaceful environment for progress.

Pakistanis admire the progress of our Chinese friends and brothers.
 
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J-20 is not for export-- J-31 may be.

If someday Pakistan becomes exception for J-20s export, they are not gonna come anytime soon. PLAAF needs are there and then PAF can opt for J-31 to counter IAF Rafales or TFX for HAL-ACMA in 2020s and then after 2030, PAC can start 5th/6th gen indigenous/partially ind. aircraft with help from China.
 
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Learning from each other and helping when/where needed is mark of real friends.

Sino-Pak Friendship is a shinny example of how two Peoples and State must co-exist.


China is the best friend Pakistan has. More than any of our muslim friends. We have seen what the Saudis and Iranians have given us. We have always supported them but they have always betrayed us. China is the one and only true friend of Pakistan. Why? Because we were both poor when we became friends. That kind of friendship always lasts.
 
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China is the best friend Pakistan has. More than any of our muslim friends. We have seen what the Saudis and Iranians have given us. We have always supported them but they have always betrayed us. China is the one and only true friend of Pakistan. Why? Because we were both poor when we became friends. That kind of friendship always lasts.

Because, my dear Pak Friend, Pakistan is the ONLY TRUE FRIEND that China has.

China has never forgotten what Pak has done for her. Pak has never forgotten what China as done for her.

Win-win relationships last the longest!!!

I don't know about J-20 but this report is a reminder of Pak China friendship. This was the time when China came to Pakistan's rescue.

Yes, dear friend, you see if Pak is secure China is strong. If China is strong Pak is secure. Win-Win.
 
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Because, my dear Pak Friend, Pakistan is the ONLY TRUE FRIEND that China has.

China has never forgotten what Pak has done for her. Pak has never forgotten what China as done for her.

Win-win relationships last the longest!!!

As a Pakistani I hope Pakistan always supports the rise of China. We want China to defend Asia. Asia needs a strong China.
 
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