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Was India Better Under the British ?

Anyways, Muslims were at the forefront of the mutiny, Bahadur Shah Zafar was declared the emperor of India

BSZ was just the dummy figurehead. The real muscle behind the rebellion were Rani Laxmi Bhai, Tantia Tope,Kunwar Singh, some Scindhia rulers, followers of Nawab of Oudh etc.

And proclamation of BSZ was the reason why the Sikhs never supported the rebellion even though they were just defeated by the English some 15-20 years ago. A strategic blunder.

All in all 1857 was a complex event - Hindus and Muslims fought against Hindus and Muslims. It was more of a Central Indian rebels vs British troops and allies.

the Muslims had to bear much for the events in 1857. Leaders such as Maulana Khairabadi & Ahmedullah Shah called for Jihad. A significant proportion of the insurgents in Delhi were Muslims. And that is where the Indian Mutiny eventually climaxed, when the British defeated the mutiny.

Wrong.

They were plenty of Muslim supporters of British too like the hyderabad Nizam, the Punjabi Musalmans, Pathans etc. The social backwardness of the Muslims at that time had very different reasons and the revolt was not one among them.
 
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Ok lets say you are 8 years old. You live with your parents. Suddenly you are put under the rule of a family whom you never seen. They hit you, they bit you they make you work hard they deprive you from education by all these i mean they deprive you off everything positive. So whom should you be with. Your parents right.

the question was if india better off under british rule or not?
 
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From an administrative point of view yes it was better then present day south Asia corruptions,mismanagements etc was much less that we see prevalent today however was it better then south Asia before British India/company rule was established in which i believe the subject is debatable
 
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If you are asking about Hindus and Christians than yes
as if muslim condition became worst after independence :what:

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^^^^^ So how bad did the British scar you guys ? and can you ever forgive them ?
no they do not scar us.. they were part of our history
you can not say we were in dark age under britishers
 
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The Brits did one thing to their advantage after ruling India. It could be seen on this very forum :azn:
 
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After the 1857 war, the whole martial race theory was popularised, the british indian army had major recruitment form areas from what is today pakistan and marathas and bengalis were largely excluded.

A child can tell you the facts of 1857 and who was at the forefront and hence excluded. Ignore the history re-writers.

At topic - No India was not better as the British as the whole system was plain unfair, to even raise such a question is silly and shows ignorance of the long and painful process of nation building.

very true cos hindoos were used to be the serving classes they adjusted easier from one master to another

As a west pakistani learning his history from paknationalists and one who was ruled for the best part of the last 2000 years by outsiders - greeks, afghanis, persians, mongols, turks, arabs, Sikhs, british... your desperation shows. So which new superpower you are selling your young to these days???
 
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Bangalis made worthless soldiers? :undecided:

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The Brits did one thing to their advantage after ruling India. It could be seen on this very forum :azn:

The Internet? Nah it's all thanks you lot :lol:
 
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Bangalis made worthless soldiers? :undecided:

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The Internet? Nah it's all thanks you lot :lol:

He means the cat and mouse fights between India and Pakistan (which also created a third nation), if not a strong nation would have been standing instead of three. Its good for British because they have got two nations on whom they have influence, and overall the West as a whole stays powerful. Is this what you meant Lance?
 
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No it was not.


1) India was richest place until the British looters arrived
2) British caused mass famine and would not let Indians even make their own textile clothes, they had to import from sunny Manchester.
3) British looked down on Hinduism until they came to know Sanskrit is mother of all Indo-european language

also remember the artificial famine in Bengal which killed 3 million people because Brits send all food available to their forces fighting in WW2

they didn't do anything to save people in Bengal from famine
ting in WW2
 
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Agree or not Britishers did alot of benefit to India & Indians, all major Indian cities were developed by Britishers for example, Delhi, Mumbay, Kolkato, Madras, etc. Their railways was developed by Britishers, their army was organized by Britishers, their industries were setup by Britishers & most importantly Britishers make them wealthy by giving them good high payed jobs.

As for Pakistan it was opposite, Britishers looted every thing from this land & give zero development as it is visible that after Pakistan got indepandance from British, Pakistan was a desert & started every thing from zero, at the time of indepandance Pakistan had just one city Lahore which was developed by Mughals & that was also not industrialised city but a tourist city & Lollywood city but thanks to Almighty today Pakistan got 7-8 major cities & several small cities. Also Britishers didn't help Pakistan getting it's lands & they were all stolen & occupied.

after partition India lost fertile lands of west Punjab and east Pakistan

and whole British India was benefited from some good things done by Brits-including Pakistan

As for Pakistan it was opposite, Britishers looted every thing from this land & give zero development as it is visible that after Pakistan got indepandance from British, Pakistan was a desert & started every thing from zero

Pakistan had not just Lahore but rich cities like Karachi and Dhaka too

so both pak and India started their journey with lot problems and some infra made by Brits
 
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What do you mean by looted, British established their company & gave you jobs same as today many multinational companies are there in India & giving you jobs, this is all lies that they looted anything from India, even if they did than they gave you tremendous developments, build up your country, your peoples work in their companies & make wealth & this happen everywhere in the world.

what do you mean by "British established their company & gave you jobs"

pak was also part of British empire that time
 
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it was not like that. Hindus quickly adopted British culture and language which gave them superiority over muslim indians as they were favored by company for adopting their language and culture. Many lands were re distributed among Hindu Zaminders while Muslims tried to stick to persian language and their conservative culture..... They had to pay for this and a sense of distrust among muslims and hindus started to intensify during this time which resulted pakistan.

more importantly Hindus started taking British introduced education while majority Muslims didn't take that education

taking British introduced education gave Hindus an undeniable and big advantage over Muslims

having British introduced education was crucial for getting jobs in poverty hit India ( due to exploitation policies of governors in Bengal and kolkata and their overlords in London who served British crown)
 
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