Was cease-fire a good step?

[SEOminati]

So this whole past week has been emotional seeing the terror wave happening. And while I read all of your posts and ofcourse don't agree with all of them. We have our own reasons to believe despite what is being presented before us.

I am making this poll to discuss the Cease-fire in a civilized manner. My intentions are to go through this as a Pakistani.

And here's what I think.

I saw lots of my friends saying in different threads we have helped India by turning on the kill-switch(Cease-fire). But I believe what we have achieved after so many years of chaos in Afghanistan. Far outweighs what we're losing now (our gems in the form of FC and other personnels).

The victory in Afghanistan is so huge that alot of us don't realize and this is my assumption which can be wrong as well, that we knew India is going to up the game using it's proxies and eventually the LOC would stay calm to show the world how peaceful they are. Instead we knowing this offered them the Cease-fire so we could focus in Balochistan and other affected areas. Now the question that arise is, whether we're actually focusing on the other side? I am not a 100% sure but what I am sure is the Afghan Taliban's are helping us the same way we did them, by eliminating TTP in other side of the borders. I am not someone who can definitely know what's happening behind the scenes but I do know we have been doing something which the normal person can't see. Remember you only get to hear news about the bombs that exploded only.

Would love to hear from the community. Indian are welcomed too unless you start spoiling the thread.

Over and out.

I typed this on a mobile which I am not good at so pardon any typos.

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

the cease fire is what has resulted in these attacks in balochistan.
the resources which would have been spent by them on the loc have been redirected towards BLA, etc

 

[SIPRA]

Yes.

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

Nope but I will give you the two reasons
1 : The time was crucial on the Western front at that time so accepted by Pak.
2 : After the Fall of Kabul in 1988 the ops started in late 1990s in the Occupied Valley Means it took two years to the Pakistan state to Gather all the fighters on the Eastern front. Hope that's the case this time too.

 

[hussain0216]

Look at the purchases including drones and our own indigenous efforts these don't come quickly, planning for those items and our fence was done years ago


After everything that's been achieved, now is the time to push forward


Dont let idiot Indian, afghan or even our own fanboys to confuse you on what has been achieved

 

[SD 10]

NO it wasn't.

 

[Menace2Society]

No and you freed their fighters.

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

Situation in the west calls for east to be cool for the moment. Military is already stretched. No need to exacerbate the situation.

 

[KaiserX]

The victory in afghanistan was NOT PAKISTANS VICTORY.

Your army literally killed its own people via drones and turned them over to the americans. Arrested and killed thousands of afghans talibans. Yet somehow try to take credit for the taliban victory?

 

[hussain0216]

The victory in afghanistan was NOT PAKISTANS VICTORY.

Your army literally killed its own people via drones and turned them over to the americans. Arrested and killed thousands of afghans talibans. Yet somehow try to take credit for the taliban victory?

It was all ISI and years of planning and defence of our strategic interests

 

[KaiserX]

It was all ISI and years of planning and defence of our strategic interests

HAHAHa what a joke. The same ISI which has been unable to stop thousands of terror attack. The same ISI which turned over PAKISTANI CITIZENs to America without any charges. The same ISI which gave US drone coordinates of top taliban leadership.

The afghan taliban/ttp/mehsuds literally had complete control of waziristan for decades yet your ISI could do nothing and now trys to take credit for the struggle of the AFGHANS

Go read/watch what the average taliban or taliban leadership thinks of ISI/Pakistan. ISI surely has a way of failing to control its proxies

 

[Black Bird]

This question should be asked to Kashmiries who were suffering on LOC.

 

[hussain0216]

HAHAHa what a joke. The same ISI which has been unable to stop thousands of terror attack. The same ISI which turned over PAKISTANI CITIZENs to America without any charges. The same ISI which gave US drone coordinates of top taliban leadership.

The afghan taliban/ttp/mehsuds literally had complete control of waziristan for decades yet your ISI could do nothing and now trys to take credit for the struggle of the AFGHANS

Go read/watch what the average taliban or taliban leadership thinks of ISI/Pakistan. ISI surely has a way of failing to control its proxies

Yep the very same ISI, that utterly fcuked over the afghan Kabuli regime, the Americans and the Indians

The amount of pain and destruction we have inflicted upon our enemies in defence of our strategic interests is legendary

Other nations have collapsed in the face of terrorism and multiple enemies, Pakistan has not and will not and has created infinitely more misery for them

 

[KaiserX]

Yep the very same ISI, that utterly fcuked over the afghan Kabuli regime, the Americans and the Indians

The amount of pain and destruction we have inflicted upon our enemies in defence of our strategic interests is legendary

Other nations have collapsed in the face of terrorism and multiple enemies, Pakistan has not and will not and has created infinitely more misery for them

Once again you are giving the credit for the TALIBANS VICTORY to the ISI which did everything it could to prevent Talibans victory in the first place by working with americans since day 1 2001, and constantly complaining of not getting recognition from the west for ALL ITS SACRAFICES IN THE WOT and for TURNING OVER MANY MANY TALIBAN Fighters.

Somehow in your idiotic mind the ISI is responsible for the TALIBANS victory

If the ISI was behind the talibans victory then why did the pak army come to ceasefire with the indians are the same exact time the taliban took over kabul? youd think that the pak army would turn up the heat on the LOC given that the regime in kabul is ours? not quiet we did the complete opposite, which shows that the army feels pressured enough on its western borders that it entered into a ceasefire on the eastern end...

 

[hussain0216]

Once again you are giving the credit for the TALIBANS VICTORY to the ISI which did everything it could to prevent Talibans victory in the first place by working with americans since day 1 2001, and constantly complaining of not getting recognition from the west for ALL ITS SACRAFICES IN THE WOT and for TURNING OVER MANY MANY TALIBAN Fighters.

Somehow in your idiotic mind the ISI is responsible for the TALIBANS victory

If the ISI was behind the talibans victory then why did the pak army come to ceasefire with the indians are the same exact time the taliban took over kabul? youd think that the pak army would turn up the heat on the LOC given that the regime in kabul is ours? not quiet we did the complete opposite, which shows that the army feels pressured enough on its western borders that it entered into a ceasefire on the eastern end...

It was all ISI

Years of planning in the works

Pakistani border fence was almost timed to perfection

Pakistani military purchases the same to plan for the current period

Unlike a lot of low brained idiots who see a TTP or BLA and go aha Pakistan is getting a taste of it's own medicine


All was PREDICTED PREDICTABLE AND EXPECTED

*Border fence completion planned for this period when Taliban took over (too limit afghan fall out)

*Military purchases everything from J10s to drones (years of planning, timed for the current period both to counter India and to limit and counter afghan fall out)

*2019 humiliation of India (NOT planned but message given)

* 2020 Chinese incursion on LAC, land taken, Indian soldiers humiliated (PLANNED AND TIMED for just before Taliban takeover to ensure threat of pincer and two front war cages India)
India backs off
LOC goes quite
All in preparation for fall of Afghanistan
Pakistan concentration on Afghanistan

*U.S leaves/runs
*Taliban surge
*Kabuli regime collapses
*Afghans get slapped in their face for all their lar aur bar bullshit


-Strategic threat from Afghanistan ends
no NDS
No afghan state connected to the world
No afghan military
No support for lar aur bar lanats in Pakistan




PRESENT
Provide support to Taliban to dismantle Afghanistan
Target TTP, Baloch enemies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, hunt them down eradicate and assassinate


EXCEPT AND PREPARE FOR THE FALL OUT OF A SURGE IN TTP AND BLA ATTACKS

*Take a few years to force massive punishment and misery on our enemies

They might have some success in terrorism but Pakistan while engulf them in misery, poverty, starvation and suffering and they will die and suffer


PAKISTAN ZINDABAD



Tell me which of the above hasn't happened?