War with India not an option, says Pakistan PM:

[BABA AGHORI]

Trade with China instead.
China has more people than India.

Yes, very good point... Which all products are been exported to China at the moment?
India is the bigger market than China, It does not depend on the number of people. But the size of demand.

 

[Maarkhoor]

War between India and Pakistan imminent either over Kashmir or not, hatred fed to the masses by Indian media is enough to wage a war.
Last night I watched 1999 movie Kartoos, main villain was drug lord who ordered bomb blast in India but now in any movie the main enemy either Pakistan or Muslims.
Mindset is ready in India to clear every single inch of this subcontinent from Muslims and they are working on it, in Bangladesh, Kashmir and Pakistan and if Muslims of this subcontinent wants to survive without Ghar-Wapsi, have to do the same.

 

[Chichago_bulls]

Let's all hope that Indians get educated that it's a geographical expression. Present day India was created by British. These India establishment folks need to stop keeping this artificial country going for there own personal benefit. India need to split by its states.

And Kashmir need self determination.

Why alone India ??? What about United States, Russia, China, Australia etc. ??? Tell me one country in the world which wasn't unified by someone or the other, historic or pre-historic. Every country today is the amalgamation of few nation states or principalities unified by someone. You should better attend your History classes in the lower grades once again I guess.

And who are you to call for the split of India. First go get back your "Republic of China" from PRC Mr, I bet your ancestors were against communist China (PRC) that your ended up born on the Tiny speck of Taiwan. Then come and talk about India.

War between India and Pakistan imminent either over Kashmir or not, hatred fed to the masses by Indian media is enough to wage a war.
Last night I watched 1999 movie Kartoos, main villain was drug lord who ordered bomb blast in India but now in any movie the main enemy either Pakistan or Muslims.
Mindset is ready in India to clear every single inch of this subcontinent from Muslims and they are working on it, in Bangladesh, Kashmir and Pakistan and if Muslims of this subcontinent wants to survive without Ghar-Wapsi, have to do the same.

And I bet "ghazwa-e-hind" is hatred enough to nullify anything (if any) that is emanating from the Indian side. And who told you Bollywood dictates the mindset of a general Indian ???? If you believe so god may help you. LOL

 

[padamchen]

War between India and Pakistan imminent either over Kashmir or not, hatred fed to the masses by Indian media is enough to wage a war.
Last night I watched 1999 movie Kartoos, main villain was drug lord who ordered bomb blast in India but now in any movie the main enemy either Pakistan or Muslims.
Mindset is ready in India to clear every single inch of this subcontinent from Muslims and they are working on it, in Bangladesh, Kashmir and Pakistan and if Muslims of this subcontinent wants to survive without Ghar-Wapsi, have to do the same.

You are largely correct.

The Hindus of India will not rest till they have ensured supremacy of their way of life over their ancestral land.

The momentum shifted with the Marathas.

The coming of the British allowed you a country and a better chance at survival.

Otherwise what you see today in Modi's India (just a start) is what would have been the subcontinent a hundred or more years earlier.

Cheers, Doc

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

because it is legally integrated and part of India like other Indian state's.

No it did not, back in the day right after partition princely states including Kashmir were given a choice. to either sign a standstill agreement(to decide on its fate ) OR sign instrument of accession( to join either state). Pakistan signed a standstill agreement only with Kashmir. Indian government took the position that it would sign standstill agreements with only those states that also signed the instrument of accesion. It was totally against the rule of the book . It refused to sign standstill agreement with kashmir governor on August 12th 1947 till the governor agreed to accession on October 26th 1947.In the meanwhile alot happened including installing puppets in valley, bribery, blackmailing and an artificial law and order situation with blame being put on Pakistan all done under the umbrella of an indian admin and army. Hari Singh was forced by the circumstances to approach government of India on 24th October 1947 for military help but the later put the condition of formal accession

So it was all illegal to begin with.A state governor can not accede to a country breaking a standstill agreement with Pakistan. Kashmiris chose to send a standtill agreement to each govt. and it was not accepted by India and that makes the accession nullified. The standstill agreement between Kashmir and Pakistan holds and exists to date.

And then there is a story of Junagadh and Hyderabad that signed accession to Pakistan.

ANd there are many other unknown stories of other Indian states that will come to lime lite in near future.

 

[padamchen]

No it did not, back in the day right after partition princely states including Kashmir were given a choice. to either sign a standstill agreement(to decide on its fate ) OR sign instrument of accession( to join either state). Pakistan signed a standstill agreement only with Kashmir. Indian government took the position that it would sign standstill agreements with only those states that also signed the instrument of accesion. It was totally against the rule of the book . It refused to sign standstill agreement with kashmir governor on August 12th 1947 till the governor agreed to accession on October 26th 1947.In the meanwhile alot happened including installing puppets in valley, bribery, blackmailing and an artificial law and order situation with blame being put on Pakistan all done under the umbrella of an indian admin and army. Hari Singh was forced by the circumstances to approach government of India on 24th October 1947 for military help but the later put the condition of formal accession

So it wall all illegal to begin with.A state of governor can not accede to a country breaking a standstill agreement with Pakistan.The standstill agreement between Kashmir and Pakistan holds and exists to date.

And then there is a story of Junagadh and Hyderabad that signed accession to Pakistan.

ANd there are many other unknown stories of other Indian states that will come to lime lite in near future.

None of that matters anymore.

Really.

This is not going to be solved by lawyers.

Cheers, Doc

 

[maravan91]

War is not going to happen unless pakistan tries something stupid.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

None if that matters anymore.

Really.

This is not going to be solved by lawyers.

Cheers, Doc

looks more like you dont have any defense to my argument.
our first lawyer was Nehru himself who took it to UN.

 

[padamchen]

War is not going to happen unless pakistan tries something stupid.

On the contrary, war is now inevitable. And will happen when India feels she is ready.

If Modi wins 2019, India will wage war on Pakistan in his second term.

Cheers, Doc

looks more like you dont have any defense to my argument.
our first lawyer was Nehru himself who took it to UN.

I'm telling you what the situation is in reality.

Like our old UN expert @AgNoStiC MuSliM you can keep thumping the history and chronology and resolutions till the cows come home. On PDF and other international fora.

The reality will not change on the ground. Not in Pakistan's favor at least ...

Cheers, Doc

Yes, very good point... Which all products are been exported to China at the moment?
India is the bigger market than China, It does not depend on the number of people. But the size of demand.

Pakistan has zero idea of the buying power of the Indian woman.

She alone is enough to double their GDP.

I swear I have seen psychotic scenes among not just punju aunties but tambi ones as well.

Cheers, Doc

 

[sputnik]

War with India not an option, says Pakistan PM:

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Pakistan Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi has said that war is not an option with India and that only talks can resolve all outstanding issues including Kashmir.

Abbasi described Kashmir as a "core issue" and said relations with India will remain tense until that is resolved.

"Kashmir is the core issue with India. Until that is resolved, Pakistan-India relations will remain tense. We are always open to talks at any level and talks are the way forward. War is not an option," Abbasi said.

Highlighting India's Cold Start Doctrine among recent developments, Abbasi said Pakistan had a "deterrent" in place.

Not much report in Indian & Pak. media but Pak. Army chief sent message through political parties to India that they are open to negotiate terms for passage of Indian goods to Afghanistan. Indian govt. don't gave any heed to that.
and we are seeing Chabahar Port of Iran operational. Now he is off to Iran and to say sorry for his behavior during Iranian leader state visit to Pakistan. I am sure he will follow foot steps of Raheel Sharif and go to Saudis for peaceful & Rich retirement. Keypad ninjas can keep fighting on internet forums.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

On the contrary, war is now inevitable. And will happen when India feels she is ready.

If Modi wins 2019, India will wage war on Pakistan in his second term.

Cheers, Doc



I'm telling you what the situation is in reality.

Like our old UN expert @AgNoStiC MuSliM you can keep thumping the history and chronology and resolutions till the cows come home. On PDF and other international fora.

The reality will not change on the ground. Not in Pakistan's favor at least ...

Cheers, Doc

The reality will change when the time comes..may be not in our life times but it will eventually. change is inevitable, everything has a life . Our case is strong and based on facts thats all what maters to us.. India is running on rhetoric only like atootang. This all will change.

 

[padamchen]

The reality will change when the time comes..may be not in our life times but it will eventually. change is inevitable, everything has a life . Our case is strong and based on facts thats all what maters to us.. India is running on rhetoric only like atootang. This all will change.

Then you have been misled by the window fluff political rhetoric and have failed to see the steel core of the common Indian's anger and resolve about Kashmir.

If things ever go bad, politically, and if even the army turns around, nothing will stop the wave of a billion strong humanity that will hit Kashmir and your borders in an unstoppable tsunami.

Cheers, Doc

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Then you have been misled by the window fluff political rhetoric and have failed to see the steel core of the common Indian's anger and resolve about Kashmir.

If things ever go bad, politically, and if even the army turns around, nothing will stop the wave of a billion strong humanity that will hit Kashmir and your borders in an unstoppable tsunami.

Cheers, Doc

this is one of the most hilarious things iv ever heard. ..thats exactly what a brahmin told me once.in his own words" bharti border sath line bana kai shushu karain toh sailab a jai ga pakistan main". lol
is that how you defend your point?
you are seriously living in a delusional world. what do you expect me to say? that i will follow footsteps of trump and build a wall? i actually doubt im talking to a teenager right now. .so i will stop here..

 

[padamchen]

this is one of the most hilarious things iv ever heard. ..thats exactly what a brahmin told me once.in his own words" bharti border sath line bana kai shushu karain toh sailab a jai ga pakistan main". lol
is that how you defend your point?
you are seriously living in a delusional world. what do you expect me to say? that i will follow footsteps of trump and build a wall? i actually doubt im talking to a teenager right now. .so i will stop here..

I wasnt talking about a susu tsunami.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Chichago_bulls]

No it did not, back in the day right after partition princely states including Kashmir were given a choice. to either sign a standstill agreement(to decide on its fate ) OR sign instrument of accession( to join either state). Pakistan signed a standstill agreement only with Kashmir. Indian government took the position that it would sign standstill agreements with only those states that also signed the instrument of accesion. It was totally against the rule of the book . It refused to sign standstill agreement with kashmir governor on August 12th 1947 till the governor agreed to accession on October 26th 1947.In the meanwhile alot happened including installing puppets in valley, bribery, blackmailing and an artificial law and order situation with blame being put on Pakistan all done under the umbrella of an indian admin and army. Hari Singh was forced by the circumstances to approach government of India on 24th October 1947 for military help but the later put the condition of formal accession

So it was all illegal to begin with.A state governor can not accede to a country breaking a standstill agreement with Pakistan. Kashmiris chose to send a standtill agreement to each govt. and it was not accepted by India and that makes the accession nullified. The standstill agreement between Kashmir and Pakistan holds and exists to date.

And then there is a story of Junagadh and Hyderabad that signed accession to Pakistan.

ANd there are many other unknown stories of other Indian states that will come to lime lite in near future.

And what is stand still agreement if you could explain ????? Do you think it's some holy agreement which will nullify any subsequent agreements ??

FYI, a stand-still agreement is nothing but and agreement/promise to continue business as usual or to maintain the status-quo until a new agreement is penned and agreed upon. If you don't know please learn that first.

Identical telegrams were send,' by the Prime Minister of Kashmir to Dominions of India and Pakistan,? on August I2 1947. The text is as follows:

"Jammu and Kashmir Government would welcome Standstill Agreements with Pakistan on all matters Ion which these exist at present moment with outgoing Biritish India Government. It is suggested that existing arrangements should continue pending settlement of details."

Ironically the next agreement was INSTRUMENT OF ACCESSION with India (the reason for which is the involvement of Pakistani proxies in Kashmir's civil unrest), which is actually the right given to every princely state under British dominion. And tell some correct facts friend, I bet you won't be able to state or show an accession signed between Hyderabad and Pakistan, since he choose to join neither Pakistan or India, so please don't lie.