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[Foinikas]

PUTIN - ROUHANI - ASSAD dreamed to take whole Idlib

RESULT : Turkish Armed Forces killed 3.322 Assad Regime militia including 6 generals and Iran backed terrorists in 4 days

also Turkish Armed Forces destroyed

3 UAVs
2 SU-24 Fighter Jets
1 L-39 Aircraft
8 Helicopters
8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems


Turkish TB-2 and ANKA-S UCAVs raped SAA+IRGC+Hezbol






Idlib is only 30 km away from Turkish border
and Turkish Airforce created no fly zone over Idlib

2 Syrian SU-24 Fighter Jets were shot down by Turkish F-16s from Turkish airspace

Russian Air Defense Systems even can not trace Turkish TB-2 UCAVs


Turkey only wants to secure its borders from ISIS , PKK-YPG , SAA and İran backed IRGC , Hezbol
nothing else

Here we go again...

The same propaganda tape. You ask MMM-E he will say "These are facts". The same lists and the same claims. The same imaginary "155 tanks". If you think Russia cannot kick Turkish forces and all the jihadis from Idlib,you're mistaken. Just because the Russians tolerate you and do nothing yet,doesn't mean they can't kick you out.

 

[Battlion25]

Here we go again...

The same propaganda tape. You ask MMM-E he will say "These are facts". The same lists and the same claims. The same imaginary "155 tanks". If you think Russia cannot kick Turkish forces and all the jihadis from Idlib,you're mistaken. Just because the Russians tolerate you and do nothing yet,doesn't mean they can't kick you out.

This is idiotic.. You act as if you know anything about military but in truth you are just a layman..

Nobody can take that from Turkey this is a military reality unless Russia elevates this into nuclear war which is abolutely of the table? Idlib really? they won't want to start nuclear war for an irrelevant part of the world that doesn't concern them.. But conventionally it is out of the question nor logistically realistic.. Nobody can rollover Turkey there logistically with over 2-3 million armed forces and militias including a neat defense industry and high tech armed forces this is the simple ground reality... Besides Turkey even has access to nukes via the nuclear sharing policy could use it if it was attacked.. There is no charity in ground reality and turf defensive

 

[MMM-E]

Here we go again...

The same propaganda tape. You ask MMM-E he will say "These are facts". The same lists and the same claims. The same imaginary "155 tanks". If you think Russia cannot kick Turkish forces and all the jihadis from Idlib,you're mistaken. Just because the Russians tolerate you and do nothing yet,doesn't mean they can't kick you out.

Turkish UCAVs recorded all attacks .. watch and enjoy
Turkish Armed Forces official youtube channel

Russia will lose trillion dollars and millions of soldiers to fight against Turkey
and PUTIN is not stupid to fight Turkey for Idlib
but Turkey can fight anyone
because , its our national security and no tolarance to anyone including USA and Russia

Turkish Armed Forces were ready to fight even USA in Syria
and USA-France could not fight against Turkey to protect PKK/YPG

Turks have no joke ......
Russian army fled in panic after Turkish attack on Idlib

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish UCAVs recorded all attacks .. watch and enjoy

Russia will lose trillion dollars and millions of soldiers to fight against Turkey
and PUTIN is not stupid to fight Turkey for Idlib
but Turkey can fight anyone
because , its our national security and no tolarance to anyone including USA and Russia

Turkish Armed Forces were ready to fight even USA in Syria
and USA-France could not fight against Turkey to protect PKK/YPG

Turks have no joke ......
Russian army fled in panic after Turkish attack on Idlib

You've posted the exact same video with the same bull before. And I told you what happened when the Russians bombed the Turkish convoy.

You have been banned 4 times from the forum and yet you still post like a bot.

 

[Battlion25]

You have been banned 4 times from the forum and yet you still post like a bot.

Just ignore him his a turkish supremacist he gets carried away at times.. Converse with others just ignore him

 

[Foinikas]

This is idiotic.. You act as if you know anything about military but in truth you are just a layman..

Nobody can take that from Turkey this is a military reality unless Russia elevates this into nuclear war which is abolutely of the table? Idlib really? they won't want to start nuclear war for an irrelevant part of the world that doesn't concern them.. But conventionally it is out of the question nor logistically realistic.. Nobody can rollover Turkey there logistically with over 2-3 million armed forces and militias including a neat defense industry and high tech armed forces this is the simple ground reality... Besides Turkey even has access to nukes via the nuclear sharing policy could use it if it was attacked.. There is no charity in ground reality and turf defensive

Oh its "idiotic" because I said Russia can kick Turkey out of Syria if they want? Do you think that if NATO doesn't help Turkey,they can win a war against Russia? We're not talking about nuclear war. We're talking about a conventional war.

 

[Battlion25]

Oh its "idiotic" because I said Russia can kick Turkey out of Syria if they want? Do you think that if NATO doesn't help Turkey,they can win a war against Russia? We're not talking about nuclear war. We're talking about a conventional war.

No.. Russia can't defeat Turkey conventionally in that area they will be logisitcally handicapped.. Hence why a full blown war between them has to include nukes in order for Russia to have an upper hand period. This is not cartoon you simply just can't rollover that many Turkish armed forces armed to the teeth and tech advanced it is just logistical not possible.. Forget NATO but only Turkey.. This is the conventional probability generals and experts will agree with... This is not even hyping the turks but just a ground reality..

Note: not saying Turkey is stronger then Russia but they are better positioned in that specific area and it would cost the Russian's alot to conduct logistical war and it won't be feasible without elevating it to nuke warfare which is completely out of the picture because they won't start WW3 and Nuclear warfare for an irrelevant province in another land that doesn't concern them that much hence it doesn't meet the treeshold not even remotely close to start war for it hence it is very low on their treeshold

 

[MMM-E]

You've posted the exact same video with the same bull before. And I told you what happened when the Russians bombed the Turkish convoy.

You have been banned 4 times from the forum and yet you still post like a bot.

REALITY is over 15.000 Turkish soldiers and thousands of Turkish Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,MLRS,etc are in Idlib

REALITY is PUTIN-ROUHANI-ASSAD tried to take whole Idlib

and after attack on Turkish convoy
Turkish Armed Forces killed 3.322 Assad Regime militia including 6 generals and Iran backed IRGC , Hezbol terrorists in 4 days

also Turkish Armed Forces destroyed

3 UAVs
2 SU-24 Fighter Jets
1 L-39 Aircraft
8 Helicopters
8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems


Russia and İran lost 100x more soldiers including generals in Syria than Turkey

Oh its "idiotic" because I said Russia can kick Turkey out of Syria if they want? Do you think that if NATO doesn't help Turkey,they can win a war against Russia? We're not talking about nuclear war. We're talking about a conventional war.

maybe in your dreams .... war is not computer game
Russians could not match with even poor-weak Afghanistan and Chechenya in 10 years

 

[Foinikas]

No.. Russia can't defeat Turkey conventionally in that area they will be logisitcally handicapped.. H

Why? They can can transport equipment through Iran,they can invade from the north.

This is not cartoon you simply just can't rollover that many Turkish armed forces armed to the teeth and tech advanced it is just logistical not possible.

And Russian Armed Forces aren't armed to the teeth?

3 UAVs
2 SU-24 Fighter Jets
1 L-39 Aircraft
8 Helicopters
8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems

Spambot stop spamming please

Russians could not match with even poor-weak Afghanistan and Chechenya in 10 years

Poor-weak Afghanistan? Back in the '80s? Guerilla Warfare in the mountains and caves? Chechnya? 20 years ago? Are you kidding?

 

[Battlion25]

Why? They can can transport equipment through Iran,they can invade from the north.

That thing could drag out for years and won't be good on either economy and it could come to an stalemate after year of engagement besides if Turkey's territory is entered they will use nukes in self-defense but lets exclude the nukes and just conventionally. The entire Russian equipment and armed forces could get totalled and the same goes for the Turkish armed forces they could lose alot of equipment as the war drags on.. But there is no guraantee for success they could be rebelled after few years of engagement or they could push into some parts of Turkey put it would come at huge monsterous costs which makes such an engagement fools attempt no general or military expert will undergo it unless they had nothing to lose meaning under a complete world economical collapse even then that would be foolish throwing in just conventional forces but all experts and generals would use the nuclear appraoch there not just conventionally.. They won't even take that appraoch when they have nothing to lose and this has something to do with military tactical warfare meaning they will elevate it to nuclear warfare and then use conventional warfare..

Warfare is not based on balls but brains and calculations

 

[Foinikas]

That thing could drag out for years and won't be good on either the foes economy and it would come to an stalemate after year fears of engagement besides if Turkey's territory is entered they will use nukes in self-defense but lets exclude the turks and just conventionally. The entire Russian equipment and armed forces could get totalled and the same goes for the Turkish armed forces they could lose alot of equipment as the war drags on.. But there is no guraantee for success they could be rebelled after few years of engagement or they could push into some parts of Turkey put it would come at huge monsterous costs which makes such an engagement fools attempt no general or military expert will undergo it unless they had nothing to lose

Or they could annihilate the Turkish infastracture with bombings and artillery. The Black Sea Fleet could raid Turkish ports too.

 

[MMM-E]

Why? They can can transport equipment through Iran,they can invade from the north.

Turkish Armed Forces will not sleep
and 83 million Turks will start to fight to protect their motherland

Turkish Army has 50.000+ anti Tank weapons , 10.000+ MANPADS Missiles , 200+ UCAVs, thousands of guided MLRS , Howitzers to destroy all Russian Army

its our territory ..... and Russia has no power projection
Russian Army can not invade Turkey , not even close

Russians could not take even poor-weak Afghanistan in 10 years

The Russians have even more

but in Russian soil

Russia can not deploy even 1.000 Tanks in Turkey ... all will be destroyed
even Turkish Army has enough anti Tank Missiles to destroy all Tanks in Russia+Europe combined

Spambot stop spamming please

stop dreaming daydreamer boy

 

[Battlion25]

Or they could annihilate the Turkish infastracture with bombings and artillery. The Black Sea Fleet could raid Turkish ports too.

They could do limited damage but they will eventually have to put troops on the ground and the route they will use could be Georgia but they will march into another wall.. Hence the scenario will play out as I said. There is no guaraantee of success it is like just marching in and hoping for the best and I am not ruling out Russia gaining the upper hand after years of crulling grinding of war but the reality is there is no guraantee for that within the calculation of possiblities because they could get smoked and the Turks themselves could push back into Russia.. It is sort of like in the grey zone of things from the tactical POV..

Besides this would be something a General will not undertake period and sounds more like a UFC fight then an actual warfare conducted by professionals but as I said Russia will tactically fight in a way it is superior which is nuke warfare then the conventional forces and I mean if they had to fight Turkey but they will not burn into their equipment or manpower for nothing or go into a conflict while hoping for the best

 

[Foinikas]

and 83 million Turks will start to fight to protect their motherland

83 million Turks...sure ok. The babies will fight too. And the old men. And the millions of Kurds.

Turkish Army has 50.000+ anti Tank weapons , 10.000+ MANPADS Missiles , 200+ UCAVs, thousands of guided MLRS , Howitzers to destroy all Russian Army

The Russians have even more

stop dreaming daydreamer boy

Stop spamming

 

[IblinI]

Russia will lose trillion dollars and millions of soldiers to fight against Turkey

millions of soldiers, hey, get a life, its not healthy to stuck on your keyboard.