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War in the Himalayas would expose India’s soft power

Most of these "warnings" have come from the Indian media, not even the international media or China itself. :lol:

And if China is warning, we are doing it for the same reason we gave warnings in 1962, because if we decide to do something, India can't pretend to be surprised again like last time. Since there were plenty of warnings last time too.
With you bro,when china is ready,they are definitely ready to beat india shit out of it!
 
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What is pathetic is China eating humble pie and not able to veto the new sanctions being imposed on North Korea which directly impacts Chinese business interests.

an unpredictable NK with nuke is not in China's interest neither, so we take this opportunity to push all the blame to US since it's the one who push so hard this sanction, one stone two birds...not bad :lol:, but insignificant India is not even in this international picture...so much to have the desire to have a permanent seat, you guys are just too irrelevant.
 
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an unpredictable NK with nuke is not in China's interest neither, so we take this opportunity to push all the blame to US since it's the one who push so hard this sanction, one stone two birds...not bad :lol:, but insignificant India is not even in this international picture...so much to have the desire to have a permanent seat, you guys are just too irrelevant.

So you are saying China has sold off its ally North Korea to negotiate a deal for themselves. This is even more pathetic.

At least is India has the courage and conviction to stand by its ally Bhutan to honor its commitment towards its ally.
 
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So you are saying China has sold off its ally North Korea to negotiate a deal for themselves. This is even more pathetic.

At least is India has the courage and conviction to stand by its ally Bhutan to honor its commitment towards its ally.

Sold NK? there is nothing to be sold over NK, NK don't listen to China anyway, their are depend on China over the economy but offer us nothing in return beside of being a buffer state, have their ever come to defend us over SCS or against India? LMAO, US like to claim NK as China' ally so they can have excuse to exercise pressure over us but we have amuse these Americans until they lost their temper and strategic patient :lol:

As for India, you call that as courage and conviction to stand by Bhutan when China still not react but your FM is already shaken and seek US and Australia for help, you can't claim be Bhutan protector and a powerful nation while expect foreign powers come to rescue you...LMAO, the only courage you guys have it's shouting "come attack us...what are you waiting for..coward China:" :lol:
 
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China withdrew voluntarily after we had defeated India comprehensively in both sectors, as well as taken Aksai Chin. Pretty good for a country in the middle of a famine.
In the middle of a famine, nine years after Korean war, world sanction still in effect against China, and nuclear annihilation threats from Russia and US. India would have collapse under such pressure not China.
 
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Sold NK? there is nothing to be sold over NK, NK don't listen to China anyway, their are depend on China over the economy but offer us nothing in return beside of being a buffer state, have their ever come to defend us over SCS or against India? LMAO, US like to claim NK as China' ally so they can have excuse to exercise pressure over us but we have amuse these Americans until they lost their temper and strategic patient :lol:

As for India, you call that as courage and conviction to stand by Bhutan when China still not react but your FM is already shaken and seek US and Australia for help, you can't claim be Bhutan protector and a powerful nation while expect foreign powers come to rescue you...LMAO, the only courage you guys have it's shouting "come attack us...what are you waiting for..coward China:" :lol:
"印度似乎分不清何为外交、何为战争,对外交的局限、边界的严肃性以及实力原则都稀里糊涂的。这几乎是一个国际社会的文盲在闯世界,它最终不碰个头破血流才怪。"
It seems India can't understand what is diplomacy, war, diplomatic limitations, boundaries of seriousness and strength principles. An illiteracy of international society gets into in the world, it won't grow up until bump his head on a steel and get bleeding.
 
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A war in the Himalayas would expose India’s soft power
By M.K. BHADRAKUMAR AUGUST 10, 2017 2:22 PM (UTC+8)


The Xinhua news agency and China Daily newspaper, two authoritative platforms of Chinese policies, held out warnings this week over the military standoff with India near the Sikkim border.

China Daily starkly wrote that the “window for a peaceful solution is closing. The countdown to a clash between the two forces has begun….” Xinhua said China’s “restraint has limits and with every day that passes the tether shortens.”

Should these warning be taken seriously? India stubbornly ignored similar warnings 55 years ago in a border war it resoundingly lost and the rest is history.

A war between India and China is improbable since neither side wants it. But below that threshold is a vast space where miscalculations can occur. Indians and Chinese are patriotic people, driven by nationalistic leaderships, and “territorial sovereignty” is a highly emotive issue. What’s alarming is that both governments have successfully rallied domestic opinion.

In China, perhaps, this wasn’t particularly difficult. But in India where a hundred flowers normally bloom, opinion is polarizing at an exceptional rate. It seems all Indians are rising in anger over Facebook posts supporting China’s position. But how could there be a contrarian opinion?

This holds dangers because hubris is a self-devouring monster. The plain truth is that India’s post-Cold War foreign policy calculus will be severely put to test for the first time if a conflict with China ensues. No country has backed India in its seven-week standoff with China. Indians all along fancied that they were leagues ahead of Chinese in “soft power” – yoga, Gandhi, snake charmers, etc. Apparently, that is not so.

It is particularly galling that the United States has not taken any posture favoring India. India’s post-Cold War strategic discourse is heavily laden with the blithe assumption that the US regards India as a “counterweight” to China. Meghnad Desai, a high-flying opinion maker in the English-speaking Delhi circuit, said last week:

“All things that follow now will have a lot to do with what happens in the South China Sea. The US has sent out enough signals. If there is war, it will be a US-China war, with India on the US side, in the South China Sea and in the Himalayas. This trio (India, China and the US) is a very combustible mixture right now.… Ultimately, you have to understand that India cannot stand up to China without American help and support. America cannot stand up to China without Indian help. That is the symmetry in this relationship.

The sheer naiveté in the above passage sums up India’s misfortune. The Indians refuse to see the geopolitical realities. It doesn’t occur to them that US President Donald Trump will fight wars only if America’s interests are directly threatened. Why should he order the Pentagon to send the marines to the Himalayas or to dispatch a carrier battle group to hunt down Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean?

The one thing emerging out of the meeting in Manila last Friday between US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi is that the two top diplomats did not waste time on the South China Sea or the Indian Ocean.

Tillerson told the media that North Korea was the main topic in his discussions and whatever extra “bit of reflection on the relationship” with China that took place was devoted to the four high-level dialogues between the two countries last April at the summit at Mar-a-Lago, Florida. That meeting, he said, is “really advancing our two countries’ understandings of the nature of this relationship … and how we should strive to strengthen this relationship so that it benefits the world in terms of maintaining a secure world absent of conflict.”

Interestingly, the White House released a press release on Saturday thanking China for its cooperation in securing the passage of a resolution in the United Nations Security Council on increased sanctions against North Korea. Trump is expected to make a state visit to China in November and Wang disclosed that preparations have begun.

Indian analysts simply do not get the point that the US-China relationship is in an altogether different league. Simply put, the single most crucial template of India’s strategy against China turns out to be delusional – that the US will confront China on India’s behalf.

Equally, Indian strategists never expected that post-Soviet Russia would bounce back on to the world stage. Through the past quarter-century, successive Indian governments have pursued a policy of benign neglect of relations with Russia, which are today in a state of atrophy. On the other hand, Russia-China relations are today at their highest point in decades.

Sadly, India’s “soft power” took a lethal blow during the past three-year period of the Hindu-nationalist government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi. This is so not only in liberal Western opinion but also in the Muslim world. The violence against Muslims, the erosion in India’s secularist foundations, the mass upheaval in Kashmir have all received attention internationally. It is also useful to remember that the Organization of Islamic Cooperation represents 54 member countries of the United Nations.

Suffice to say, all these factors will come into play if a war ensues between India and China. India is not a match for China militarily, and in soft power too China may already have an advantage. By cocooning themselves in a fantasyland, Indians are too full of themselves in their refusal to be judged by international opinion – leave alone Chinese and its smaller South Asian neighbors’ opinions.

http://www.atimes.com/war-himalayas-will-expose-indias-soft-power/

ZzzZZZzzzZ :coffee: read Xinhua and straight to the trash can, propaganda does not validate itself! stupid mouthpiece thrash articles should not be taken with any seriousness or authenticity.

@Śakra @Roybot @ChennaiDude @Kal Muah
 
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Now even the Cheer -Leaders are tired of cheering for their new masters.

Guys, lets drop these threads and review the status now on 1st Sep 2017 and again on 15th Sep 2017. If nothing happens, Chinese posters should appeal to PDF to delete all these threads the way history and facts are deleted in China by CCCP.

I will not comment on these threads till 1st Sep 2017.
 
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A damn good analysis!!! Where are such sharp minds with crystal clear understanding in the helms now???? By the by, the author was a highly popular fellow during his days as the Indian Ambassador in Turkey. Usually, both Pak and Indian Ambassadors carry popularity with them, but Pak Ambassadors rank higher!!! But, this author reversed it with his personal charm!!! He knew his cards very well and when/how to play them!!!!!
 
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China left AP voluntarily while keeping Aksai Chin, and Indians see that as some sort of victory, that India couldn't hold on to both pieces of land to begin with.

did you just say you left "South tibet" voluntarily? the same territory your maps still shows as yours? without putting up a fight for it? but are willing to risk everything for a price of land which

1. is disputed and mostly belongs to china
2. is nothing, not even arable, basically some mountains and snow.

do you feel whats wrong in this statement?
 
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yeah i already read that,
Now even the Cheer -Leaders are tired of cheering for their new masters.

Guys, lets drop these threads and review the status now on 1st Sep 2017 and again on 15th Sep 2017. If nothing happens, Chinese posters should appeal to PDF to delete all these threads the way history and facts are deleted in China by CCCP.

I will not comment on these threads till 1st Sep 2017.

it will affect the Chinese members revenue, they get paid per post!

http://www.theweek.in/news/world/India-must-not-flirt-with-disaster-chinese-media.html
 
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Sold NK? there is nothing to be sold over NK, NK don't listen to China anyway, their are depend on China over the economy but offer us nothing in return beside of being a buffer state, have their ever come to defend us over SCS or against India? LMAO, US like to claim NK as China' ally so they can have excuse to exercise pressure over us but we have amuse these Americans until they lost their temper and strategic patient :lol:

As for India, you call that as courage and conviction to stand by Bhutan when China still not react but your FM is already shaken and seek US and Australia for help, you can't claim be Bhutan protector and a powerful nation while expect foreign powers come to rescue you...LMAO, the only courage you guys have it's shouting "come attack us...what are you waiting for..coward China:" :lol:
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