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Vying with China, Cam Ranh Bay is Vietnam's ace in the hole

Would you like Uncle Sam to park an Aircraft Carrier or other warships at Cam Ranh Bay :-)
That would just be adding fuel to the fire for China my friend. You are going to provoke Beijing into building up their PLA Navy even faster and bigger than it already is...
EAST ASIAN ARMS RACE 2015 - 2XXX here we come. :-)
 
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1,500 ton ... HEHE, smaller than Kilo-class.:eek:
2,000 tons displacement. 1,500 is just the hull.
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That would just be adding fuel to the fire for China my friend. You are going to provoke Beijing into building up their PLA Navy even faster and bigger than it already is...
EAST ASIAN ARMS RACE 2015 - 2XXX here we come. :-)

Assuming you saw my other response to him, you would have seen me say I wouldn't be for that. and I said I would "never say never" . It would depend on the deal and the circumstances. It would have nothing to do with what China thinks.
 
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Assuming you saw my other response to him, you would have seen me say I wouldn't be for that. and I said I would "never say never" . It would depend on the deal and the circumstances. It would have nothing to do with what China thinks.
Yeah I just saw that. My bad. :-)
 
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Assuming you saw my other response to him, you would have seen me say I wouldn't be for that. and I said I would "never say never" . It would depend on the deal and the circumstances. It would have nothing to do with what China thinks.

If you know there's not any Chinese ever access to Cam Ranh.

( Leon Panetta in Cam Ranh 2012 on board the flagship of Seventh Fleet )

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King Yacht Minh Nhat fare 25 USD / adult ; 17 USD / kid ( with a dinner buffet )
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Don't worry, those vietnamese forumer are naive thinking US back to vietnam will solve the problem.

And VCP will not let US have a permanent base.
 
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Assuming you saw my other response to him, you would have seen me say I wouldn't be for that. and I said I would "never say never" . It would depend on the deal and the circumstances. It would have nothing to do with what China thinks.

The idea is not bad, particularly if the chinese try to deny access to the Spratlys to others as they seem to start doing by warning Filipino aircrafts not to fly there.

Also considering that the US may start to patrol very near the chinese islands, then they need bases near those islands and there are only 2 candidates, Can Ramh Bay and the Philippines, but the Filipino congress has not ratified the new agreement allowing US forces to use Filipino bases and those locations also need a lot of construction work, so Can Ramh Bay would come handy.

Of course to implement such a situation would require negotiating some kind of security guarantees between US and Vietnam, etc. That would not be very easy to negotiate at the present time, but that depends a lot on chinese actions in the area. It seems like the chinese will get some sort of blowback from their activity in the Spratlys.
 
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It wouldn't matter if Vietnam host naval ships from Russia, USA, Japan, EU, South Africa, India, Philippine, Mongolia ..etc, because none of these nations are stupid enough to go to war with China over Vietnam's delusion.

Vietnam is a pawn and some of those nations would egg Vietnam on to agitate China but China can handle it.
 
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unlikely to offer the port to the us, vietnam war memory still fresh in vietnamese mind. also the us military lacks decipline aand likes to rape the locals. i mean look at what always happen in japan. vietnam might let russia rent it but russia doesnt have the money.
 
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I hope Vietnam will invite the JMSDF to Cam Ranh Bay. :)


Let us both Dance to Victory !


 
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Japanese at the Bay is as good as America at the Bay
Russia would let that happen

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unlikely to offer the port to the us, vietnam war memory still fresh in vietnamese mind. also the us military lacks decipline aand likes to rape the locals. i mean look at what always happen in japan. vietnam might let russia rent it but russia doesnt have the money.

Logical analysis.
 
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. In 1974, South Vietnam was a US ally. The United States did nothing as China took over the Paracel Islands in 1974. US didn't even care about S.Vietnamese ally, let alone Vietcom. In 1974 ,US seventh fleet was there standing by and watching S.Vietnamese ally's navy burning and sinking.

"In the early morning of January 19, 1974, South Vietnamese soldiers from the HQ-5 landed on Duncan Island and came under fire from Chinese troops. Three Vietnamese soldiers were killed and more injured. Finding themselves outnumbered, the Vietnamese ground forces withdrew by landing craft, but their small fleet drew close to the Chinese warships in a tense standoff.

At 10:24 a.m., the Vietnamese warships HQ-16 and HQ-10 opened fire on the Chinese warships. HQ-4 and HQ-5 then joined in. The sea battle lasted about 40 minutes, with the vessels on both sides sustaining damage. The smaller Chinese warships managed to maneuver into the blind spots of the main cannons on the Vietnamese warships and succeeded in damaging all four Vietnamese ships, especially the Nhật Tảo (HQ-10), which could not retreat because her last working engine was disabled. The crew was ordered to abandon ship but her captain, Lt. Commander Ngụy Văn Thà, remained on board and went down with his ship. HQ-16, severely damaged by friendly fire from the HQ-5, was forced to retreat westwards. HQ-4 and HQ-5 also joined in the retreat.

The next day, Chinese jet fighters and ground-attack aircraft from Hainan bombed the three islands, and an amphibious landing was made. The South Vietnamese Marine garrison on the islands was forced to surrender, and the damaged navy ships retreated to Đà Nẵng.

During the battle, the Vietnamese fleet detected two more Chinese warships rushing to the area. China later acknowledged these were the Hainan-Class submarine chasers #281 and #282. Despite South Vietnamese reports that at least one of their ships had been struck by a missile, the Chinese insisted what the Vietnamese saw were rocket-propelled grenades fired by the crew of #389 and that no missile-capable ships were present. The reason the Chinese ships closed in was because they had no missiles. The South Vietnamese fleet also received warnings that U.S. Navy radar had detected additional Chinese guided missile frigates and jet fighters on their way from Hainan. South Vietnam requested assistance from the U.S. Seventh Fleet, but the request was denied.

Following the battle, China gained control over all the Paracel Islands. South Vietnam protested to the United Nations, but China, having veto power on the UN Security Council, blocked any efforts to bring it up.[12] The remote islands had little value militarily, but diplomatically the projection of power was beneficial to China."
 
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beijing walker: that is off topic post. Just want to remind you
 
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You want US navy protection and that's why you posted this article, please don't deny it or it will be pathetic and that's what you will really get if you go into war with China. do the reality check please
 
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