Vladimir Putin signs historic $20bn oil deal with Iran bypass Western sanctions

[SOHEIL]

Because they went a level Stupid higher than Iran. Moreover, NK does not sit in an actual region of interest with the middle east and instead is only a nuisance. With the US "Pacific Pivot" in progress the time will come when Iran's rantings on Israel will stop being the headline and what Kim Jong Un ate for breakfast will be the headline.

Nice joke ... thanks for sharing !

 

[Abii]

So , if we are really the same , why there is no north korean members here !?

In some ways they are worse, in some ways Iran is worse. In Iran women are treated the same way wahabis treat their women (essentially like dogs), while in North Korea they take censorship to a whole new level.

In general, both are the same at the end of the day. You manage to surprise and scare the rest of the world all the same, all the time.

 

[SOHEIL]

In some ways they are worse, in some ways Iran is worse. In Iran women are treated the same way wahabis treat their women (essentially like dogs), while in North Korea they take censorship to a whole new level.

In general, both are the same at the end of the day. You manage to surprise and scare the rest of the world all the same, all the time.

A muslim is a dog for an atheist !

 

[rmi5]

In some ways they are worse, in some ways Iran is worse. In Iran women are treated the same way wahabis treat their women (essentially like dogs), while in North Korea they take censorship to a whole new level.

In general, both are the same at the end of the day. You manage to surprise and scare the rest of the world all the same, all the time.

At least, NK women live in a so called communist country and definitely live there better than an islamic sharia country like Iran. For men, the case is reversed.
For censorship, NK has internet restriction throughly while Iran has even blocked google.de but, as far as minority rights, and religious freedom is concerned, NK is a century ahead of Iran.
About economy, NK has not any oil, but she is less corrupted.
To sum it up, they are not much different.

 

[SOHEIL]

^^^

Another orgasm !

 

[Abii]

At least, NK women live in a so called communist country and definitely live there better than an islamic sharia country like Iran. For men, the case is reversed.
For censorship, NK has internet restriction throughly while Iran has even blocked google.de but, as far as minority rights, and religious freedom is concerned, NK is a century ahead of Iran.
About economy, NK has not any oil, but she is less corrupted.
To sum it up, they are not much different.

Exactly. It's like trying to compare Yemen, Syria and Afghanistan. They outdo each other in different areas, but at the end of the day they're the same. Iran and North Korea are essentially the same.

 

[Declein]

I have a question for the Iranian members: why doesn't Iran tray to reach a serious consensus with EU and USA? You have natural resources, Europe needs them

Is there any ingrained hostility towards Europe in the Iranian population? Something that can't be worked over? my understanding is that is not the case, but maybe I'm wrong..

 

[rmi5]

Exactly. It's like trying to compare Yemen, Syria and Afghanistan. They outdo each other in different areas, but at the end of the day they're the same. Iran and North Korea are essentially the same.

To be honest with you, I actually rate NK a bit higher, since they really have had some achievements like nukes while they lack oil or ... . Still, kim jong un beats mullahs on an intellectual level, and even based on looks compared to Ahmadi Nejad, or Firouz Abadi, or rest of them.

^^^

Another orgasm !

Soheil aka jammersat or whatever you are, spare me with your BS. stick to your comic mock ups, instead

I have a question for the Iranian members: why doesn't Iran tray to reach a serious consensus with EU and USA? You have natural resources, Europe needs them

Is there any ingrained hostility towards Europe in the Iranian population? Something that can't be worked over? my understanding is that is not the case, but maybe I'm wrong..

Iran is under rule of bunch of clergymen with 14 centuries ago mindset. Even without mullahs, EU, and USA would not trust Iran as a muslim country which is filled and bordered by bunch of extremists. EU, and USA can only trust Israel in the middle-east for some obvious reasons. Except for that, if the sanctions gets removed, Iran can sell her oils which can be bought from many other countries like KSA as well.

 

[Abii]

To be honest with you, I actually rate NK a bit higher, since they really have had some achievements like nukes while they lack oil or ... . Still, kim jong un beats mullahs on an intellectual level, and even based on looks compared to Ahmadi Nejad, or Firouz Abadi, or rest of them.


Soheil aka jammersat or whatever you are, spare me with your BS. stick to your comic mock ups, instead

I dunno. The Hermit Kingdom is too organized and structured in its stupidity (that brings them more success in a lot of areas compared to the Akhoond Kingdom), which is not conducive to me keeping my head on my shoulders. I'd take the more disorganized Akhoond Kingdom. If I was a woman though, the Hermit Kingdom hands down, not even a contest. At least they respect and treat women like human beings in NK.

 

[SOHEIL]

Troll gonna mad !!!

Soheil aka jammersat !!!

@Serpentine ... Yade in zanaye dame khiabon oftadam ke migan ya polamo midi ya jigh mizanam !

 

[Echo_419]

Vladimir Putin signs historic $20bn oil deal with Iran to bypass Western sanctions

Five-year accord will see Russia help Iran organise oil sales, but government denies it has violated international obligations

By Andrew Trotman

11:30PM BST 05 Aug 2014

Vladimir Putin is eyeing a $20bn (£11.8bn) trade deal with Iran that would see Russia sidestep Western sanctions on its energy sector.
Under the terms of a five-year accord, Russia would help Iran organise oil sales as well as “cooperate in the oil-gas industry, construction of power plants, grids, supply of machinery, consumer goods and agriculture products”, according to a statement by the Energy Ministry in Moscow.
However, the Russian government mysteriously withdrew that statement last night, saying it would issue a new one on Wednesday.
Despite the U-turn, news of a possible agreement hit US markets. The Dow fell 139 points, or 0.8pc, led by energy companies such as Chevron, down 2.5pc, and ExxonMobil, down 1.9pc. Brent Crude fell 1.5pc before recovering to trade down 0.7pc at $104.61.
The Dow dropped 0.7pc after news of the accord broke
A deal could see Russia buying 500,000 barrels of Iranian oil a day, the Moscow-based Kommersant newspaper has previously reported. That would be about a fifth of Iran’s output in June and half its exports.
There’s a question over “how substantive this memorandum is”, Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects in London, told Bloomberg. “There would be various practical limitations in terms of Iran’s current production capacity, geography and shipping logistics, as well as US sanctions.”
The move would be a win-win for both nations after they were hit with Western sanctions aimed at limiting their energy sectors.
The European Union recently unveiled a raft of measures to restrict certain oil exploration and oil drilling related products in Russia after what President Barack Obama called the country's "illegal actions" in Ukraine. Russia's prescence in the Eastern European country reached a watershed moment last month when Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was allegedly shot down by rebels sympathetic to Mr Putin's government, killing all 298 people on board.
On Tuesday, the Russian President told regional leaders that “the political tools of economic pressure are unacceptable and run counter to all norms and rules”, adding that he had given orders to boost domestic manufacturers at the expense of non-Russian ones.
Meanwhile, Iran has faced sanctions due to its reluctance to end a controversial nuclear programme. The country has been locked in talks with six world powers - Britain, China, France, Russia, the US and Germany - to reach an understanding, with an interim deal to lift a ban on sales to the EU and limiting them to Asia agreed in November. However, since then talks have stalled, causing Iran's petroleum exports to halve in the past two years, according to OPEC.
Despite the sanctions, Iran has been looking to boost oil production in recent months, setting a new output target of 5.7m barrels per day (bpd) of crude by 2018 - OPEC believes Iran is currently pumping about 3m bpd of crude. However, it needs the help of international oil companies, and Russian energy firms have repeatedly expressed an interest in teaming up with Iran.
Before Moscow’s retraction, Alexander Novak, Russia's minister of energy, said an agreement would not violate international obligations and is important given the current "reality".
The White House has previously said that reports of talks between Russia and Iran were a matter of "serious concern".
"If the reports are true, such a deal would raise serious concerns as it would be inconsistent with the terms of the agreement with Iran," Caitlin Hayden, spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council, said in January.

Vladimir Putin signs historic $20bn oil deal with Iran to bypass Western sanctions - Telegraph

Russia should also try to sell some def equipment to Iran specially to the IRIAF they really need new aircraft

 

[Abii]

I have a question for the Iranian members: why doesn't Iran tray to reach a serious consensus with EU and USA? You have natural resources, Europe needs them

Is there any ingrained hostility towards Europe in the Iranian population? Something that can't be worked over? my understanding is that is not the case, but maybe I'm wrong..

A segment of the Iranian population has been brainwashed, but they're in the minority (think of posters like Haman10, Soheil, S00R3NA...). They believe there's a conspiracy going on to keep them down and they must fight this war at any cost (same type of brainwashing that North Koreans receive). But in Iran's case they're in the minority.

The country is a theocratic dictatorship, which means the ultimate power is in the hands of the ultra orthodox religious few. They're dogmatic, extreme, irrational and have no desire to join the world. They're happy where they are and that's essentially the reason why we're at this junction.

Russia should also try to sell some def equipment to Iran specially to the IRIAF they really need new aircraft

Won't happen. Russia isn't allowed to. UN Security Council sanction forbid the sale of weapons to the Akhoond Kingdom. European Union and American sanctions go a few steps higher and they forbid economic relations in general. Russia won't risk its economy, nor should it be expected to do so. Why should they? Makes no sense.

 

[SOHEIL]

2 peoples in my ignore list !

 

[The SiLent crY]

Good for Mullahs and their crappy government .

Look at Iran , Its like a whore in the hands of everyone .

We first do bj for the Americans and 5+1 and now full service to Russians . I hope we don't end in Baghdadi's bed soon .

 

[doremon]

Who do you trust? The whole Western World is the "Great Satan," Israel doesn't exist, The UK is "Little Satan," Russians can't be trusted and every arab hates you and we hate them.

It doesn't matter though, nobody trusts Iran either.

shocking to see iran and pakistan worse than northkorea,thats some pretty fcked up.