Virginity Tests
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Aurat bik rahi hai mehr kay badlay, bila shakk kuch aisay cases hai. Lekin aksriat mein badmaash aur chalak ko hee tarjih dee jati hai agar sole decision maker auratein ho. They don't care about the kirdaar of their menfolk. As long as he's taking them out for vacations, buying things, fighting and slaving for them he can abuse/harm the child maid or be involved in corruption/drugs/bribery it's all A-Okay. Nowhere I have seen ka kisi khatoon nay apnay husband say talaq ka mutalba kiya ho because he took bribes, nope. Cars and fancy shopping gives them the tingles. There're varying degrees however, no doubt. Ek decent ya honourable aadmi ki koi aurat izzat nahi karti in majority of the cases in my experience. Uss shaks ki be-izzati hoti hai.
You should read up on the amount of fan mail, love letters and the marriage proposals various serial killers receive from women. Food for thought. Also read up on the 80/20 rule and hypergamy if you haven't already. That's why I disputed you when you said women are more religious than men, because as I have experienced and I truly believe they're a minority. Even from that minority most of them are at it due to family pressure or "virtue signalling", me thinks womenfolk by nature are amoral.
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The issue here isn’t that some people are or not, the concern usually rises when people are made to undergo a test to prove their purity for the sake of righteousness or when shame is associated concerning only one half of the party, in particularly a specific gender. That is highly unreasonable and unfair.
If one is to look at it from the Faith point of view then Marrying a divorcee is encouraged and technically a female doesn’t have to share ANY information of her past so long as it doesn’t impact the future. The moment you’re involved with someone else - THAT point going forward is when everything should be taken to accountability. Not the period before, when two people were completely non-existent to eachother. Its irrelevant.
However, it’s fair to say that the Male society is pretty much obsessed with this notion and claim it as their right, when I’m sorry, it’s not. Prior to your time, nothing is a ‘right’.
The hypocrisy comes when a guy has done everything under the sun but demands a ‘character worthy’ female. Match your profile with your words bro. If you want someone that’s speck free then ensure you are also SPECK FREE. Everyone’s entitled to a preference and it’s their right, but a right shouldn’t contradict your own previous actions. If you expect flaws and errors to be overlooked then be prepared to overlook someone else’s. If you believe God will forgive your wrongs, then hold the same compassion towards others and be sure to know that forgiveness isn’t just limited to you but other human beings too and that very same God can forgive others as well.
If one is to look at it from the Faith point of view then Marrying a divorcee is encouraged and technically a female doesn’t have to share ANY information of her past so long as it doesn’t impact the future. The moment you’re involved with someone else - THAT point going forward is when everything should be taken to accountability. Not the period before, when two people were completely non-existent to eachother. Its irrelevant.
However, it’s fair to say that the Male society is pretty much obsessed with this notion and claim it as their right, when I’m sorry, it’s not. Prior to your time, nothing is a ‘right’.
The hypocrisy comes when a guy has done everything under the sun but demands a ‘character worthy’ female. Match your profile with your words bro. If you want someone that’s speck free then ensure you are also SPECK FREE. Everyone’s entitled to a preference and it’s their right, but a right shouldn’t contradict your own previous actions. If you expect flaws and errors to be overlooked then be prepared to overlook someone else’s. If you believe God will forgive your wrongs, then hold the same compassion towards others and be sure to know that forgiveness isn’t just limited to you but other human beings too and that very same God can forgive others as well.
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Nhs uk is doing such surgeries LMAO
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1298684/Surge-virginity-repair-operations-NHS.html
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The liberals these days generally refuse to understand Men and Women were made differently. Every difference in the world is apparently evil in essence now....in contrast to our history thus far when we were appreciative of the difference and its importance....that it was good and moral to be that way.
If lib women had a magic wand and could turn themselves into protectors of society/settlement/clan/tribe/family (commensurate with all the massive sustained increase risk and danger put on them by doing that),....rather than be the (equally important) childbearer role.... then and only then can they start to complain about how unfair it is they are defiled so much easily in this second topic compared to men....because they would have taken on more of the 1st topic burden. Till then they really ought to stop screeching, real men and real women are tired of this nonsense and desperation in telling us we are all wrong for following what got the human species this far.
If people understand the importance of the two main roles of the two genders to the species success and are accepting of the reality and best promulgating and nurturing that rather than fighting it on the sake of some retarded feel (that comes from those that fundamentally want to see human society corrupted and possible eradicated all together) ... we get cohesiveness and ability to further develop in structured way. If we simply want change for change sake and any difference is a valid target for this feel, we simply charge to the precipice of doom.
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I am guessing most of the clients are Muslim females cucking their future husbands.
From the article:
"He said: ‘In the past, we would do one or two hymen reconstruction operations a week. Sometimes now, we get two or three women a day. Demand has tripled. (And this is article is dated 2010!, Lord knows what's what now!)
‘Our Muslim clients worry about having had sex, and their fiance and family knowing that they have been touched before.
‘It is more cultural rather than religious. If the bride is not a virgin and does not bleed on the wedding night, it is a big shame on the family. There have been honour killings in extreme cases.
Imam Dr Taj Hargey, chairman of the Muslim Educational Centre in Oxford, called on the Muslim community to try to reverse the trend.
He said: ‘The situation is very common in the Middle East where there is a huge scandal that can lead to divorce or even honour killings if there are not bloodstained bed sheets after the wedding night.
‘It is very disappointing that Muslim women in this country feel they need to lead a double life, resorting to subterfuge surgery.
‘That is not conducive to either their psychological or spiritual health and it is hypocrisy and double standards because Muslim men are doing as they please with women.’
Imam Dr Taj Hargey is promoting cuckoldry. This guy quotes the examples of Muslim men while completely negating the 80/20 rule. Liar. Anyone with an iota of experience can easily reach to the conclusion that there are far more virgin men than virgin women because of the mating strategy. While a man has to be a hunter and put tremendous amount of effort, all a woman needs to do is ask for it and viola. Dr. Taj assumes that the distribution of people having pre-marital intercourse is 50-50 while the reality is that some poor virgin simp is probably getting end up with a slut for a bride.
Sir kuch nahi. Go your own way and whenever an opportunity arises, jitna iss phenomena ko expose kartay saktay hai karein.
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I am guessing most of the clients are Muslim females cucking their future husbands.
From the article:
"He said: ‘In the past, we would do one or two hymen reconstruction operations a week. Sometimes now, we get two or three women a day. Demand has tripled.
‘Our Muslim clients worry about having had sex, and their fiance and family knowing that they have been touched before.
‘It is more cultural rather than religious. If the bride is not a virgin and does not bleed on the wedding night, it is a big shame on the family. There have been honour killings in extreme cases.
Imam Dr Taj Hargey, chairman of the Muslim Educational Centre in Oxford, called on the Muslim community to try to reverse the trend.
He said: ‘The situation is very common in the Middle East where there is a huge scandal that can lead to divorce or even honour killings if there are not bloodstained bed sheets after the wedding night.
‘It is very disappointing that Muslim women in this country feel they need to lead a double life, resorting to subterfuge surgery.
‘That is not conducive to either their psychological or spiritual health and it is hypocrisy and double standards because Muslim men are doing as they please with women.’
Imam Dr Taj Hargey is promoting cuckoldry. This guy quotes the examples of Muslim men while completely negating the 80/20 rule. Liar. Anyone with an iota of experience can easily reach to the conclusion that there are far more virgin men than virgin women because of the mating strategy. While a man has to be a hunter and put tremendous amount of effort, all a woman needs to do is ask for it and viola. Dr. Taj assumes that the distribution of people having pre-marital intercourse is 50-50 while the reality is that some poor virgin simp is probably getting end up with a slut for a bride.
If you are not a virgin then say it that you are not. If you think pre marital sex is wrong then don't do it. Why the hypocrisy ?
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Kab mazloom zalim se takraenge ?
Lolzz ya i agree with you that portraying women as angel here is superficial as its both the parties who are involved in it.
As of the discussion i had checked links in the original first post and they were about government or institutions sanctioned virginity tests for women like Indonesian military requiring tests for women or some indian community members getting social workers arrested who raised voice against such tests.
Luckily the kind of regressive mindset displayed in links added in first post where governments are actually legalizing these tests and in some parts they are made mandatory are not the practices happening in pakistan.
In pakistan mostly its the mother in laws ; as we see again women against women, who use such tests, but they are rare and mostly happen in backward areas not some collective community practices.
Now what really leaves me surprised here is that few days back when this thread was locked by a moderator called Zaki, then despite being clearly mentioned in first post links that it discusses government sanctioned virginity tests which is not the case in pakistan, he dragged in pakistan out of blue by mentioning how viriginity tests are carried out there too using some white sheet tests whilst the thread is clearly more focussed on government, community heads and institutions sanctioning such tests which is luckily not the practice carried in pakistan. Some people despite claiming to have pakistani roots have so much hatred for pakistan that even when the discussion doesnt link directly with pakistan they have to pin up the negatives on the country.
Yes i know the report said it was mostly about muslim women but my point was that these surgeries are being allowed to happen in west whilst it should not, because i recall one of the muslim countries had banned these procedures. Also i was responding to kabiras video as the video mentioned these surgeries, i dont know if u have watched his link.I am guessing most of the clients are Muslim females cucking their future husbands.
From the article:
"He said: ‘In the past, we would do one or two hymen reconstruction operations a week. Sometimes now, we get two or three women a day. Demand has tripled.
‘Our Muslim clients worry about having had sex, and their fiance and family knowing that they have been touched before.
‘It is more cultural rather than religious. If the bride is not a virgin and does not bleed on the wedding night, it is a big shame on the family. There have been honour killings in extreme cases.
Imam Dr Taj Hargey, chairman of the Muslim Educational Centre in Oxford, called on the Muslim community to try to reverse the trend.
He said: ‘The situation is very common in the Middle East where there is a huge scandal that can lead to divorce or even honour killings if there are not bloodstained bed sheets after the wedding night.
‘It is very disappointing that Muslim women in this country feel they need to lead a double life, resorting to subterfuge surgery.
‘That is not conducive to either their psychological or spiritual health and it is hypocrisy and double standards because Muslim men are doing as they please with women.’
Imam Dr Taj Hargey is promoting cuckoldry. This guy quotes the examples of Muslim men while completely negating the 80/20 rule. Liar. Anyone with an iota of experience can easily reach to the conclusion that there are far more virgin men than virgin women because of the mating strategy. While a man has to be a hunter and put tremendous amount of effort, all a woman needs to do is ask for it and viola. Dr. Taj assumes that the distribution of people having pre-marital intercourse is 50-50 while the reality is that some poor virgin simp is probably getting end up with a slut for a bride.
I dont know about 50-50 or 80-20 thing but i find these surgical reconstruction procedures as unethical.
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Exactly, probably those women going for the hymen reconstruction surgery are going to come up with screwed up logic based on their feelings. It's not only hypocritical but also clear cut fraud.
As for the men who act like dogs, they usually don't care about marriage or a woman being virgin or not because they are getting freebies from various partners. As for those Muslim men who engage in pre-marital activities and then want a virgin bride, the entire Muslim community should get together to do a communal "lanat" on those men.
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@Wolfhunter is it a legit thing in britain?
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