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Violation of Kashmir autonomy: Repercussions for Pakistan for not taking action against India

Now PTI trolls are making threads about making GB and AJK as provinces in Pakistan to give official go ahead of acceptance to India for Kashmir genocide.

remember this GoP is founded upon horse trading and corrupt officials from previous governments. They will sell Kashmir and then kill Muslims who want to liberate Kashmir under pretense of terrorism and peaceful Madina state.
How a plebiscite in GB will give a green signal to India to conduct genocide in Kashmir ?
 
Personally it is realy concering thing.

Two questions remain:

1. does Indian in its constitution regards IOK as Kashmir or whole of Kashmir as its territory? If its the whole Kashmir than it means now AJK is being Indian territory is now occupied by Pakistan.

2. Will Indian now attempt to recapture AJK?

Other question for Pakistan clearly is water repercussion. If we let this slide it would mean we also give up our rights to the water.
1. Indian constitution regards whole of Kashmir as it's territory. But, this decision only concerns the state of Jammu and Kashmir and has no effect on AJK and GB.
2. Can't say for sure. But general perception is that we are open to make LOC border or a special admin region with open borders administered by India on our side and Pak on the opposite side .
Earlier, ABV and Nawaz/Musharaff proposed to give Kashmir valley to Pakistan but it fell through in 99.
 
Violation of Kashmir autonomy: Repercussions for Pakistan for not taking action against India

You want to take action, then start by a complete, total, comprehensive ban on ALL indian media, celebrities and by shutting down indian funded geo channel. If you really want to take action, then start by weaning off 200 million Pakistanis addicted to bollywood $h!t and worshipping indian celebrities shamelessly. Because the way I see it, that is where Pakistan has been losing hopelessly.

If you really want to take action, then close Pakistan's air space to india, INDEFINITELY!

If you really want to take action, ensure that Pakistan's Arabian Sea is well defended and trading Sea Lanes are wide open.

If you really want to give india a bloody nose by breaking it, then target india's financial interests by having so called Saudi allies put an "Oil Embargo" on the fascist hindu state.

If you really want to take decisive action against India, then have them expelled from the SCO.

Pakistan should do all of these things before even considering military action. Because these actions alone will make india squeal like a bunch of pigs headed for slaughter. Then watch those 500000 indian troops in Kashmir shrink down to 0.

Oh and while you're at it, please reclaim Siachen, that we haven't had control over for the past 35 years.
 
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I feel sorry for you and your kind.

This will only make situation in IOK more sensitive like the 80s-90s.

Gun solution is already on the lips of Kashmiri youth that you have brutalised for decades & LOC’s temperature will rise resulting in more innocent deaths.

On the global scale you will feel repercussions.
why Hindu doing that?
I mean Kashmir area isn’t disputed land and uno involves in it?
 
Just a pointer could this be part of chest thumping.

Trump said he wants to be a mediator something Modi wanted him to do. Now with this action of India, Pakistan could threaten military action whic will not be normal skirmish and it will be blood bath.

This will compel world power to intervene hence Modi can say hey it was for cease fire and not that he requested this.

End result could be JK might be split on religious lines and divided up between both countries.

There will be mediation without mediation. Modi saves face, IK saves faces.

World power cannot allow a war here.
 
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First action would be to cut off diplomatic ties to ganguz and recall our ambassador.

We await... for GoP to prove ... Pakistan ka mutlab kia.............?

Recalling ambassador and cutting diplomatic ties could be a good starter as things are heated up on the border. Instead of following their lead, Pakistan ahould also take initiative. There are many steps between full on war and complete innaction.

However, Pakistan could do a few things right off the bat that would be reasonable - closing air space, diplomatic toies cut etc. Than see how the situation progresses and act accordingly.

Some level of brinkmanship is needed here. Appearing too calm and rational isn't always good as well.


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Violation of Kashmir autonomy: Repercussions for Pakistan for not taking action against India

The revoking of article 370 by India which granted Kashmir some autonomy is an act of war.
Our government and especially our foreign ministry was sleeping the entire f**king time when everybody knew that India is going to revoke the special status of Kashmir.

India has done a massive massive military buildup in Indian occupied Kashmir and will brutally deal with any protest and resistance by Kashmiris and would even resort to genocide of Kashmiris.

This is not the time to talk or protest or go to UN or any other BS. That time has long gone. This is the time to take action. A military action.

India has concentrated its massive military inside Indian occupied Kashmir to stop Pakistan from interfering and keeping us at LOC.

We can either accept Indian aggression and Indian position over Kashmir or we can fight.

The consequences of accepting Indian position over Kashmir would be disastrous. If we accept Indian position and do not take any action over Kashmir, then this will embolden India even more.


Indus Water Treaty

India would even revoke Indus water treaty in the future. They will stop our waters and build dams/barrages over it. While we will keep on crying to UN, International community, World Bank BS.

F**k UN and f**k International community. We must fight our own battles.

Right now India with its massive military buildup is testing us. It is checking our response.

There will be some coward kan*** among our nation who will keep on harping about refrain from fight, we can't do anything about it, nothing is changed, India is a nuclear power etc.

But the fact is that this is an act of war. Our weak response would mean we should say goodbye to our waters.

They won't do anything regarding the IWT for a myriad for reasons.
 
They won't do anything regarding the IWT for a myriad for reasons.

Correct why rock the boat. We can't even utilize our share properly.

The whole thing is good news for everyone. It is a step forward in solving the Kashmir issue, neither party will step back and give up land so what India did only formalizes the status quo on our side. You people also make Kashmir on your side as sixth or seventh province.

Then we can sign a treaty reduce troop build up and concentrate on improving lives.
 
End result could be JK might be split on religious lines and divided up between both countries.

There will be mediation without mediation. Modi saves face, IK saves faces.

World power cannot allow a war here.

What will happen after the split. Will the Muslim majority parts of Kashmir be allowed to hold a plebiscite?

If Azad Kashmir and the Kashmir Valley vote for independence, but India keeps Ladakh and Jammu while Pakistan keeps Gilgit-Baltistan, it would save face for both nations, while ending the Kashmir dispute on somewhat neutral terms. Indians and Pakistanis could still travel to Kashmir (per the will of the Kashmiri people) and Kashmiris could do business with Both India and Pakistan without alienating either nation, similar to Nepal. All but the far right wing of both nations would accept this,as the people of Kashmir just want peace, and to live a normal life.

Imran Khan's speech at the institute of peace lays out this shift in who gets to decide, to just what do the Kashmiris want, as a standard for a just peace settlement. But real-politik states both nations need to guard the most crucial aspects of their national interests. Hence this division of Indian occupied Kashmir.
 
Trump wants it as peace deal. A section of the society wants it too like OP and @Norwegian and @Foxtrot Delta
Pakistanis should stop living in dreams. India would never freely give up its territory. Pakistan has many times in the past tried to take it with force. And in the process lost East Pakistan, Siachin and many other territories. Good luck with war if you wish to lose more territory to India or China.
 

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