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Yet another likely delay in dispatching the much-awaited aircraft carrier has caused tempers to flare back in India, but the problems aren’t as grim as reported.It is a setback no doubt, but the “technical malfunction” experienced during INS Vikramaditya’s high-speed trials in the Barents Sea is hardly a disaster. Some sections of the media have reacted as if the innards of the aircraft carrier have been blown to kingdom come and the ship is crippled. But what happened was that seven of the eight steam boilers in the carrier’s power plant overheated, forcing the Russian-Indian crew to call off the trials.

Indians collectively threw their hands up in exasperation. You can’t blame them. INS Vikramaditya is the country’s most prestigious acquisition – the public has been waiting a long time for this majestic ship to sail into home waters. They have been let down repeatedly since 2005, the year Russia started refurbishing the old carrier, formerly known as Admiral Gorshkov.

However, casual observers have missed the point that the overheating was discovered during trials. That’s what trials are for – to identify and remove such glitches. And no, unlike what some ‘experts’ have been suggesting, fixing the problem won’t require cutting open the ship. Do they really think each time there is engine trouble the navy has to cut open its ships?

Despite two boiler blowouts during its Red Navy days, Vikramaditya’s problems aren’t insurmountable. Because the ship’s propulsion system is brand new, the problem is most likely with the integration of the boilers. The sea trials have been under way for several months off the north coast of the Barents Sea, and in all other respects the ship appears to be in working order. Two months ago the carrier experienced its first landing, by a MiG-29K.

In fact, some of the Indian crew has been working on the Vikramaditya for over a year, and currently most of the other 1,250 crew are present. Information trickling in from them suggests the first reports exaggerated the problem, and that the ship is sailing on its own power. The overheating seems to be happening at high speeds.

It’s complicated

The problems being faced by Russia and India are not unique. The US Naval War College says development of aircraft carriers is a risky, costly business, and accidents are highly likely. A former US naval aviator, Captain Robert C. Rubel, notes, “Between 1949, when jets started being deployed in large numbers by the Navy, and 1988, when the combined Navy/Marine Corps accident rate was reduced to the levels already achieved by the US Air Force, the naval services lost almost 12,000 aircraft and 8,500 air crew. In 1954 alone, the Navy and Marines lost 776 aircraft and 535 crewmen, and carrier-based tactical aviation suffered higher proportionate losses than the naval services as a whole.”

These losses are of truly frightening proportions but they are also a pointer to the reality of naval aviation – a moving airfield is unlike anything else in the world of weapons. India and Russia have barely scratched the surface of carrier construction. The hiccups with the Vikramaditya are, therefore, part of a steep learning curving.

Hard to get

An inevitable reaction to the boiler blowout will be the demand that Russia return the money and keep its boat. That would be highly unwise because India is down to half a carrier currently and new aircraft carriers are not available off the shelf. This is another unique problem with these massive ships – no country makes carriers to market, so basically India cannot order one for love or money.

Those describing the Vikramaditya as an expensive freebie forget that India’s first two aircraft carriers, INS Vikrant and INS Viraat, were also ‘gifts’ from Britain. In the 1980s, the Indian Navy inducted 30 British Sea Harriers for Viraat. More than half were lost to crashes, and the jets were grounded in August 2009 after a Harrier crashed in Goa, killing the pilot. Viraat, described as a “toothless tiger” has spent most of its life in dock, and only the ingenuity of Indian engineers has prolonged its life.

So right now India is sailing up the Indian Ocean without a paddle. The navy’s 40,000-ton carrier being built at Cochin Shipyard will not be ready before 2017. It is, therefore, urgent that India stay the course on Vikramaditya. A year’s delay won’t hurt when we have waited seven.

The Indian Navy needs at least three aircraft carriers to ensure that two always remain active – one each for the eastern and western seaboards – when the third is undergoing repairs.

Meanwhile, China, which has acquired aircraft carriers from Russia and Ukraine, has publicised its plan to develop three task forces, to patrol the areas of Japan and Korea, the western Pacific, and the Malacca Strait and Indian Ocean region.

Deeper relationship

The carrier is not a one-off thing between India and Russia. In April 2012, a stealth frigate, the INS Teg, was commissioned in Russia. It will be followed by two more such stealth ships, to be inducted early next year. The 125 meter frigate displaces 4,000 tons and includes the BrahMos surface-to-surface missile system. The Navy says the ship is “well suited to undertake a broad spectrum of maritime missions”.

The lease of the nuclear powered submarine Nerpa and Russia’s not-so-secret help with the development of India’s own nuclear submarine, Arihant, are pointers to the deep ties between the countries. Again, these are not off-the-shelf technologies and Russia is not sharing them with any other country.

However, the incident in the Barents Sea couldn’t have come at a worse time for bilateral ties. Russia has lost a string of military deals, notably for MRCA and helicopters. From the public’s point of view the latest soap opera needs to end soon. Sevmash Shipyard in North Russia, where Vikramaditya is being refitted, needs to get its act together. There are reports in the Russian press about mismanagement and lack of accountability at the company.

Sevmash could also read the riot act to the official who blamed India for the malfunction, for refusing to allow the use of harmful asbestos to insulate the engine. Better PR skills are needed in people working on such a strategic project.

A history of delays

India’s defence procurement system is also plagued by delays. For more than 30 years, India’s bureaucrats have failed to okay a long-range artillery gun for the army, leaving the generals nearly apoplectic.

There are also inexplicable delays in implementing the contract for the Scorpene attack submarine at a time when the number of India’s diesel subs is down to single digits.

And the 11-year Medium Range Combat Aircraft saga isn’t over yet, with the contract yet to be signed with France. In fact, it’ll take another three years after the signing of the contract before the first Rafales arrive in India.

Basically, every wing of the military is tangled in red tape. In this backdrop, blaming the Russians alone would be puerile.

Navy’s spearhead

Over the next five years, India will splurge more than US$ 100 billion to modernise its military. A good chunk of this will go to the navy, which after keeping a low profile for the past several decades is poised to break out to the deep blue sea. INS Vikramaditya will clearly be at the spearhead of that thrust, but there will be plenty of other areas where Russia’s military expertise will be required.

Vikramaditya: Why India must stay the course | idrw.org
 
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sure indians can wait till eternity with periodic escalations in its cost.
 
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sure indians can wait till eternity with periodic escalations in its cost.
Any solution as of now. Don't tell me, ask French to build one. We have waited for 7 year, 1 year isn't a problem. The training and operational capability of the sailors i already going on. It counts in too.

Scrapping the deal will mean gap of at least 3-4 years which I think is way too against our requirement.
 
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Any solution as of now. Don't tell me, ask French to build one. We have waited for 7 year, 1 year isn't a problem. The training and operational capability of the sailors i already going on. It counts in too.

Scrapping the deal will mean gap of at least 3-4 years which I think is way too against our requirement.
IAC-1 will get inducted first till Vik reaches indian shores.wana bet on it?I would i've dumped it right now and would ve gone for two parallel constructions.in pvt shipyards not the govt one.one in india one outside.
 
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ok so 1 more year for this guy to come to us , seems like india has aircrafts for their acc but no acc to keep those planes on , and on the other hand china has a acc but no aircrafts to fly from it,;)
 
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It's okay. No different from LCA, Arjun, Arihant...... :rolleyes: india will always have supa-dupa military power..... very very soon.
LCA MK-I flying and will have FOC by December 2012. Over 1700 flights.

Arjun MK I- Over 100 tanks inducted.

Arihant - Sea trials going on, second SSBN in construction.

China just bought Hovercraft from Ukraine, should we question its shipping Industry.

Indian ACC been constructed will join the fleet by 2017. According to your assessment China's ship building Industry is way ahead of India, haven't seen indigenous ACC of China yet.

China has decades in lead w.r.t. India. Count the factor too.

Should every US citizen come and starts bragging about their 100,000 ton, 65 aircraft, nuclear ACCs and other ACC totaling above 10 and start laughing at China ?

Be on topic or avoid bringing LCA, Arjun, etc. where it doesn't belong. Its a stale argument. Even many Pakistanis don't like it now. :coffee:
 
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IAC-1 will get inducted first till Vik reaches indian shores.wana bet on it?I would i've dumped it right now and would ve gone for two parallel constructions.in pvt shipyards not the govt one.one in india one outside.
Be logical. You want to keep sailors off an ACC where we have invested too much on Viki. And Indian shipyards are either not free or capable to build more in parallel. Give me a private player which can build it.

Be realistic. Getting emotional is always bad for business.

I always ask solution which is practical and I think after investing too much , backing out will be idiotic move. So many man hours of training of these sailors will go in vain.

I don't bet. If things go south, you need to optimize and weigh in other options to minimize or gain something in return.

For few $ billion, I won't risk IOR to go without Indian ACC. Viraat is always on docks these days.
 
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LCA MK-I flying and will have FOC by December 2012. Over 1700 flights.

Arjun MK I- Over 100 tanks inducted.

Arihant - Sea trials going on, second SSBN in construction.

China just bought Hovercraft from Ukraine, should we question its shipping Industry.

Indian ACC been constructed will join the fleet by 2017. According to your assessment China's ship building Industry is way ahead of India, haven't seen indigenous ACC of China yet.

China has decades in lead w.r.t. India. Count the factor too.

Should every US citizen come and starts bragging about their 100,000 ton, 65 aircraft, nuclear ACCs and other ACC totaling above 10 and start laughing at China ?

Be on topic or avoid bringing LCA, Arjun, etc. where it doesn't belong. Its a stale argument. Even many Pakistanis don't like it now. :coffee:

Tejas IOC pushed back to 2013
The initial operational clearance (IOC) for India’s locally designed Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) has been further delayed to mid-2013, postponing its active squadron service with the Indian Air Force (IAF) to 2015, if not beyond.

Officials said the LCA was expected to obtain full IOC after participating in the IAF’s ‘Iron Fist’ air exercises at Pokhran in the Rajasthan desert in February 2013.

“Tejas will display its capabilities during the exercise when its [weapon] lethality and precision will be tested,” Air Marshal Anjan Kumar Gogoi of South Western Command said on 24 August.

IAF officials estimate the single-engine LCA will eventually secure IOC by mid-2013, with final operational clearance (FOC) following in 2015.

Tejas IOC pushed back to 2013 | idrw.org
 
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Be logical. You want to keep sailors off an ACC where we have invested too much on Viki. And Indian shipyards are either not free or capable to build more in parallel. Give me a private player which can build it.
Thats GOI's stupid policy which does not allow Pvt shipyards in india to have big ticket contract in defence.Otherwise L$T,PSL etc can do better job than govt. owned shipyards.

Be realistic. Getting emotional is always bad for business.

I always ask solution which is practical and I think after investing too much , backing out will be idiotic move. So many man hours of training of these sailors will go in vain.
After investing billions whats the gurantee that vik will perform its duties and wont spend most of its time in shipyard going through repairs rather than being at high seas.You know the joke in IAF-they cal Mig 29's as hanger queens.....:rofl:

Same gonna be fate of vik the shipyard queen.well it still is one....Infact converting cruiser-carrier into a regular flat top AC does raises question about the professionalism of IN.IN technical team from beginning itself grossly underestimated the repair and refit of vik.

I don't bet. If things go south, you need to optimize and weigh in other options to minimize or gain something in return.

For few $ billion, I won't risk IOR to go without Indian ACC. Viraat is always on docks these days.
If things go south there is no point in continuing the same path when you know you gonna meet the failure again.
 
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IAC-1 will get inducted first till Vik reaches indian shores.wana bet on it?I would i've dumped it right now and would ve gone for two parallel constructions.in pvt shipyards not the govt one.one in india one outside.

I am ready, Rs 1 crore :D :D (lets have KBC :azn:), it will be vik before IAC-1.
 
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Indian policy, Navy's mistake.....go on, protest, its about whether we should buy it or not. Answer, lets have it.

India is building its own ACC and Private players are coming in especially Pipavav working with DCNS and will target Naval contracts too.

You simply hate govt. and Armed forces. Lets bring Maoists. Don't know about Mig -29 called "Drama Queen" but have pretty much Idea of who actually is :lol:

J/K, No offence.
 
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:disagree: :disagree: :disagree:

Looks like the female Bachan is here :lol:

What happened to the bet :D
thats what the bet is all about 1 cr. worth to confirm it send sms to 5555 through idea phone to participate in the bet.....:tongue:
 
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