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Not really. As if the police in India are saints.
You are just trading one devil for the other.
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Not really. As if the police in India are saints.
You are just trading one devil for the other.
Yes, it is an hobson's choice. And yes, Police is the second worst Mafia in India. (politicians are the first).
But it does set a precedent for police brutality on civilians in the future and for sure it will only enbolden to police to value public life even less.
It was a tough choice , but that choice has now been made. For better or for worse.
Unless there are serious Judicial reforms , we will continue to trade one devil for other and round and round we go.
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The judiciary, police, politicians are all from the same society. If as a society we keep endorsing such behavior, then we are part of the problem.
Yes we are. I am all for judicial and police reform. But who will bell that cat ?
Your kind is busy looking how and when to attack the govt. whenever it does even the slightest good.
There is no solution for which you cannot find a problem.
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When the existence of "my kind" is threatened by "your kind" of government, then that slightest good is meaningless.
Are you talking about Uyghur muslims ?
Last I checked, THIS is what real India looked like.
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Uyghurs are also suffering. They also deserve our sympathy and support.
As far as the picture/video is concerned, that is one part of India. However, there is a very dark side of India as well, as you highlighted in your previous posts.
There is also this,
and This,
and this,
and then there is this,
It all depends on what we choose to see.
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https://theprint.in/opinion/pov/bra...acebook-vikas-dubey-encounter-killing/458417/
Brahmin pride and pain flood Facebook after Vikas Dubey’s encounter killing
For many social media users, gangster Vikas Dubey was first and foremost a Brahmin — a ‘tiger’ whose killing is just another ‘atrocity’ on the community under 'Thakur' CM Yogi Adityanath.
JYOTI YADAV 10 July, 2020 7:05 pm IST
Gangster Vikas Dubey | ThePrint
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One fallout of gangster Vikas Dubey’s hide and seek with the police and eventual ‘encounter’ killing in Uttar Pradesh has been a resurgence of Brahmin pride and Brahmin victimhood. For many social media users, Vikas Dubey wasn’t just a gangster. He was first and foremost a Brahmin — a ‘tiger’ who commanded love and respect of the community, and should be venerated by the ‘descendants’ of Parshuram, the sixth avatar of Hindu god Vishnu. And so, Dubey’s killing has ignited a turf war led by Brahmins against the Thakur community in Uttar Pradesh. Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath is a Thakur.
‘You just didn’t kill Vikas Dubey, you actually killed the faith of Brahmins. You killed our Vishwas, not Vikas. All the Mishras, Pandeys, Chaubeys, Tiwaris, Bhumihars! Brahmins should remember who Lord Parshuram fought against,” said a user who goes by the name Shivam Brahmin Dada Bhai in a Facebook live. The user added: “Dare you to make a film on him. We will burn the theatres.”
Be it on Facebook or WhatsApp or Twitter, social media has been littered with such posts and videos since Vikas Dubey’s encounter killing Friday morning. The message by UP’s Brahmins is clear: It’s Thakurs vs Brahmins now.
Many Brahmins are alleging that CM Adityanath has been ignoring the Brahmin community. They are listing out instances where a Brahmin was killed or murdered, and are praising the criminals from the community, calling those like Vikas Dubey as ‘Brahmin Bahubalis’.
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The encounter, therefore, also puts an end to any possibility of seeing the undoing of political-criminal nexus that led to the gangster’s rise. People were hoping that Vikas Dubey, who was arrested Thursday from a temple in Madhya Pradesh’s Ujjain a week after eight police officers were killed in a shootout in Kanpur, would spill the beans on his connection with top political leaders in Uttar Pradesh, including those from the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
Also read: Don Dubey encounter: A death foretold, dead men’s tales, dodgy plots, lost secrets & more…
‘Memes turned into anger’
Until Thursday, social media was flooded with memes of the Brahmin gangster, lauding how he fooled the media, the police and the Adityanath government. The anger was towards Muslims. People were demanding similar treatment for Maulana Saad Khandalvi, the chief of Tablighi Jamaat. But the sentiments have changed since the encounter Friday.
Many Brahmins are now threatening to topple the government of ‘Thakur’ Adityanath. They are reminding the BJP of the next assembly election in UP, to be held in 2022. They see themselves as the victims of this caste rivalry between Brahmins and Thakurs, which was most visible during the 2018 assembly bypoll in Gorakhpur. This rivalry, which has its genesis in the squabble over dominance of the Gorakhnath math, was strengthened when the BJP picked Adityanath as UP’s CM after the victory in the 2017 assembly election, ignoring Manoj Sinha — a Bhumihar.
Also read: Kanpur ambush to Vikas Dubey ‘encounter’ — retracing events that unfolded in last one week
The emergence of warrior sage Parshuram
An important aspect of the social media posts ‘celebrating’ Vikas Dubey is the veneration of warrior sage Parshuram. According to folklore, Parshuram had ‘eliminated’ Kshatriyas 21 times from earth. The Thakur-Brahmin rivalry, in a way, goes back to this mythology. Adityanath’s ‘usurping‘ of the bhagwa (saffron) robe and the mathadheesh (the leadership of Gorakhnath math) has only intensified this rivalry.
Moreover, even the Ram temple movement in Ayodhya has been ‘hijacked’ by members of other castes. The traditionally Brahmin-Baniya party BJP is often said to have ‘sidelined’ Brahmins. Now it is a party of powerful angry nationalists who believe in demagoguery. The Brahmin community now sees a question mark over its presence and is unnerved by the shift in power base, at least in Uttar Pradesh.
Also read: Indian voters are ready to go beyond caste, some politicians are not
‘Guns restoring caste pride in UP’
Gun-toting gangsters and politicians in decision-making positions evoke extreme emotions of caste pride. Vikas Dubey killed Brahmin police officers, the officers who tipped him off were also Brahmins and the place where the Kanpur shootout happened is named Chaubeypur — all this signifies Brahmin dominance.
Under Adityanath, the community has seen its traditional role of being an ‘advisor’ to the king waning. UP chief secretary Awanish Kumar Awasthi, although a Brahmin, is neither a gangster nor a politician. And the killing of Vikas Dubey, in the eyes of Brahmins, only deepens this sense of losing ‘power’. Perhaps it is such sentiment that translates into the community members invoking what they must do — “All Brahmins must become Vikas Dubey now”. A Brahmin ‘with a gun’ is the only way now to restore the ‘lost’ caste pride it seems.
Brahmin pride and pain flood Facebook after Vikas Dubey’s encounter killing
For many social media users, gangster Vikas Dubey was first and foremost a Brahmin — a ‘tiger’ whose killing is just another ‘atrocity’ on the community under 'Thakur' CM Yogi Adityanath.
JYOTI YADAV 10 July, 2020 7:05 pm IST
Gangster Vikas Dubey | ThePrint
Text Size:
One fallout of gangster Vikas Dubey’s hide and seek with the police and eventual ‘encounter’ killing in Uttar Pradesh has been a resurgence of Brahmin pride and Brahmin victimhood. For many social media users, Vikas Dubey wasn’t just a gangster. He was first and foremost a Brahmin — a ‘tiger’ who commanded love and respect of the community, and should be venerated by the ‘descendants’ of Parshuram, the sixth avatar of Hindu god Vishnu. And so, Dubey’s killing has ignited a turf war led by Brahmins against the Thakur community in Uttar Pradesh. Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath is a Thakur.
‘You just didn’t kill Vikas Dubey, you actually killed the faith of Brahmins. You killed our Vishwas, not Vikas. All the Mishras, Pandeys, Chaubeys, Tiwaris, Bhumihars! Brahmins should remember who Lord Parshuram fought against,” said a user who goes by the name Shivam Brahmin Dada Bhai in a Facebook live. The user added: “Dare you to make a film on him. We will burn the theatres.”
Be it on Facebook or WhatsApp or Twitter, social media has been littered with such posts and videos since Vikas Dubey’s encounter killing Friday morning. The message by UP’s Brahmins is clear: It’s Thakurs vs Brahmins now.
Many Brahmins are alleging that CM Adityanath has been ignoring the Brahmin community. They are listing out instances where a Brahmin was killed or murdered, and are praising the criminals from the community, calling those like Vikas Dubey as ‘Brahmin Bahubalis’.
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The encounter, therefore, also puts an end to any possibility of seeing the undoing of political-criminal nexus that led to the gangster’s rise. People were hoping that Vikas Dubey, who was arrested Thursday from a temple in Madhya Pradesh’s Ujjain a week after eight police officers were killed in a shootout in Kanpur, would spill the beans on his connection with top political leaders in Uttar Pradesh, including those from the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
Also read: Don Dubey encounter: A death foretold, dead men’s tales, dodgy plots, lost secrets & more…
‘Memes turned into anger’
Until Thursday, social media was flooded with memes of the Brahmin gangster, lauding how he fooled the media, the police and the Adityanath government. The anger was towards Muslims. People were demanding similar treatment for Maulana Saad Khandalvi, the chief of Tablighi Jamaat. But the sentiments have changed since the encounter Friday.
Many Brahmins are now threatening to topple the government of ‘Thakur’ Adityanath. They are reminding the BJP of the next assembly election in UP, to be held in 2022. They see themselves as the victims of this caste rivalry between Brahmins and Thakurs, which was most visible during the 2018 assembly bypoll in Gorakhpur. This rivalry, which has its genesis in the squabble over dominance of the Gorakhnath math, was strengthened when the BJP picked Adityanath as UP’s CM after the victory in the 2017 assembly election, ignoring Manoj Sinha — a Bhumihar.
Also read: Kanpur ambush to Vikas Dubey ‘encounter’ — retracing events that unfolded in last one week
The emergence of warrior sage Parshuram
An important aspect of the social media posts ‘celebrating’ Vikas Dubey is the veneration of warrior sage Parshuram. According to folklore, Parshuram had ‘eliminated’ Kshatriyas 21 times from earth. The Thakur-Brahmin rivalry, in a way, goes back to this mythology. Adityanath’s ‘usurping‘ of the bhagwa (saffron) robe and the mathadheesh (the leadership of Gorakhnath math) has only intensified this rivalry.
Moreover, even the Ram temple movement in Ayodhya has been ‘hijacked’ by members of other castes. The traditionally Brahmin-Baniya party BJP is often said to have ‘sidelined’ Brahmins. Now it is a party of powerful angry nationalists who believe in demagoguery. The Brahmin community now sees a question mark over its presence and is unnerved by the shift in power base, at least in Uttar Pradesh.
Also read: Indian voters are ready to go beyond caste, some politicians are not
‘Guns restoring caste pride in UP’
Gun-toting gangsters and politicians in decision-making positions evoke extreme emotions of caste pride. Vikas Dubey killed Brahmin police officers, the officers who tipped him off were also Brahmins and the place where the Kanpur shootout happened is named Chaubeypur — all this signifies Brahmin dominance.
Under Adityanath, the community has seen its traditional role of being an ‘advisor’ to the king waning. UP chief secretary Awanish Kumar Awasthi, although a Brahmin, is neither a gangster nor a politician. And the killing of Vikas Dubey, in the eyes of Brahmins, only deepens this sense of losing ‘power’. Perhaps it is such sentiment that translates into the community members invoking what they must do — “All Brahmins must become Vikas Dubey now”. A Brahmin ‘with a gun’ is the only way now to restore the ‘lost’ caste pride it seems.
https://theprint.in/opinion/pov/bra...acebook-vikas-dubey-encounter-killing/458417/
Brahmin pride and pain flood Facebook after Vikas Dubey’s encounter killing
For many social media users, gangster Vikas Dubey was first and foremost a Brahmin — a ‘tiger’ whose killing is just another ‘atrocity’ on the community under 'Thakur' CM Yogi Adityanath.
JYOTI YADAV 10 July, 2020 7:05 pm IST
Gangster Vikas Dubey | ThePrint
Text Size:
One fallout of gangster Vikas Dubey’s hide and seek with the police and eventual ‘encounter’ killing in Uttar Pradesh has been a resurgence of Brahmin pride and Brahmin victimhood. For many social media users, Vikas Dubey wasn’t just a gangster. He was first and foremost a Brahmin — a ‘tiger’ who commanded love and respect of the community, and should be venerated by the ‘descendants’ of Parshuram, the sixth avatar of Hindu god Vishnu. And so, Dubey’s killing has ignited a turf war led by Brahmins against the Thakur community in Uttar Pradesh. Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath is a Thakur.
‘You just didn’t kill Vikas Dubey, you actually killed the faith of Brahmins. You killed our Vishwas, not Vikas. All the Mishras, Pandeys, Chaubeys, Tiwaris, Bhumihars! Brahmins should remember who Lord Parshuram fought against,” said a user who goes by the name Shivam Brahmin Dada Bhai in a Facebook live. The user added: “Dare you to make a film on him. We will burn the theatres.”
Be it on Facebook or WhatsApp or Twitter, social media has been littered with such posts and videos since Vikas Dubey’s encounter killing Friday morning. The message by UP’s Brahmins is clear: It’s Thakurs vs Brahmins now.
Many Brahmins are alleging that CM Adityanath has been ignoring the Brahmin community. They are listing out instances where a Brahmin was killed or murdered, and are praising the criminals from the community, calling those like Vikas Dubey as ‘Brahmin Bahubalis’.
We are deeply grateful to our readers & viewers for their time, trust and subscriptions.
Quality journalism is expensive and needs readers to pay for it. Your support will define our work and ThePrint’s future.
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The encounter, therefore, also puts an end to any possibility of seeing the undoing of political-criminal nexus that led to the gangster’s rise. People were hoping that Vikas Dubey, who was arrested Thursday from a temple in Madhya Pradesh’s Ujjain a week after eight police officers were killed in a shootout in Kanpur, would spill the beans on his connection with top political leaders in Uttar Pradesh, including those from the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
Also read: Don Dubey encounter: A death foretold, dead men’s tales, dodgy plots, lost secrets & more…
‘Memes turned into anger’
Until Thursday, social media was flooded with memes of the Brahmin gangster, lauding how he fooled the media, the police and the Adityanath government. The anger was towards Muslims. People were demanding similar treatment for Maulana Saad Khandalvi, the chief of Tablighi Jamaat. But the sentiments have changed since the encounter Friday.
Many Brahmins are now threatening to topple the government of ‘Thakur’ Adityanath. They are reminding the BJP of the next assembly election in UP, to be held in 2022. They see themselves as the victims of this caste rivalry between Brahmins and Thakurs, which was most visible during the 2018 assembly bypoll in Gorakhpur. This rivalry, which has its genesis in the squabble over dominance of the Gorakhnath math, was strengthened when the BJP picked Adityanath as UP’s CM after the victory in the 2017 assembly election, ignoring Manoj Sinha — a Bhumihar.
Also read: Kanpur ambush to Vikas Dubey ‘encounter’ — retracing events that unfolded in last one week
The emergence of warrior sage Parshuram
An important aspect of the social media posts ‘celebrating’ Vikas Dubey is the veneration of warrior sage Parshuram. According to folklore, Parshuram had ‘eliminated’ Kshatriyas 21 times from earth. The Thakur-Brahmin rivalry, in a way, goes back to this mythology. Adityanath’s ‘usurping‘ of the bhagwa (saffron) robe and the mathadheesh (the leadership of Gorakhnath math) has only intensified this rivalry.
Moreover, even the Ram temple movement in Ayodhya has been ‘hijacked’ by members of other castes. The traditionally Brahmin-Baniya party BJP is often said to have ‘sidelined’ Brahmins. Now it is a party of powerful angry nationalists who believe in demagoguery. The Brahmin community now sees a question mark over its presence and is unnerved by the shift in power base, at least in Uttar Pradesh.
Also read: Indian voters are ready to go beyond caste, some politicians are not
‘Guns restoring caste pride in UP’
Gun-toting gangsters and politicians in decision-making positions evoke extreme emotions of caste pride. Vikas Dubey killed Brahmin police officers, the officers who tipped him off were also Brahmins and the place where the Kanpur shootout happened is named Chaubeypur — all this signifies Brahmin dominance.
Under Adityanath, the community has seen its traditional role of being an ‘advisor’ to the king waning. UP chief secretary Awanish Kumar Awasthi, although a Brahmin, is neither a gangster nor a politician. And the killing of Vikas Dubey, in the eyes of Brahmins, only deepens this sense of losing ‘power’. Perhaps it is such sentiment that translates into the community members invoking what they must do — “All Brahmins must become Vikas Dubey now”. A Brahmin ‘with a gun’ is the only way now to restore the ‘lost’ caste pride it seems.
It says a LOT about the reputation of the police in UP when martyred brahmin Policemen are not hero's , but blood thirsty brahmin criminals who killed them, are.
He clearly did more for the Brahmins, than the cops or govt. ever dd.
A modern day Ravan.
Could also be the absence of any real Brahmin Hero highlighted by the Hindu-phobic media that highlighted criminals get to take that crown.
ouch - this brahmin feelings are hurt. Yes he is not a brahmin hero - brahmin heroes like chanakya like to suck blood this fool liked to spill blood.
LOL..... remember imran khan who called Osama bin laden a "Martyr " ? ? ?
We all know what your heroes look like.
LOL..... remember imran khan who called Osama bin laden a "Martyr " ? ? ?
We all know what your heroes look like.
I am not imran khan. But you on other hand belong to the vikas caste and you expressed your hurt.
Turnes out Vikas Dubey spilled everything in 20 hrs. 
1000 cr worth property.
Dozen luxury bungalows,
20+ Apartments,
500 acre land in India.
Visited 15 countries in last couple of yrs with properties in Bangkok, Dubai.
Luxurious hotel in Bangkok where lot of his close ones availed "special services".
Jai ho Samajwadi Party.
The Yogi Effect,
1000 cr worth property.
Dozen luxury bungalows,
20+ Apartments,
500 acre land in India.
Visited 15 countries in last couple of yrs with properties in Bangkok, Dubai.
Luxurious hotel in Bangkok where lot of his close ones availed "special services".
Jai ho Samajwadi Party.
The Yogi Effect,
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