What's new

Vietnam's beleaguered Communist Party admits mistakes

1) Why not? You have a good model in CPC that shows it works in building up the economy and the fundamental strength of a society. Just because you want to act independent do not mean you have to reinvent the wheel.

2) I totally agree corruptions at the very top of a government is the biggest show stopper for a nation to move forward. Western style democracy doesn't work in an eastern society unless you already have strong cohesive private sectors in term of economy and social fabric. As in the past and the intermediate future eastern countries must have strong paternal central governments to guide their respective societies to each of their own form of 'democracy' that suit them the best in accordance to their own needs and cultures. Blindly follows the western democracy without a strong foundation now is asking for troubles that'll stagnate a nation for a long time to come, eg: the Philippines.


@ Viet

The VCP should be glad to operate under the shadow of CPC, for without that bigger shadow, the VCP would be under the constant scrutiny by the self dignified west that'll lead to all kinds of actions and verbal attacks from every direction. You know as well as I do their election politics are as dirty as they come. and to prove that we don't need look further than what's Obama/Romney shamelessly operations on China these few months.

Don't forget Thai Land also have the same problem as Philippine.

Any form of government have double edge swore if not govern properly. As per Vietnam she needed to clean her act ASAP, if not VCP will not last. Vietnam needed civil and judgest to gain trust from the people.

Agreed with you that most Asian are not modernize enough to have democracy, when the country develop, got majority of middle class, then you can have democracy at mid level of government positions. At lower leve government position I think Vietnam can handle in few years.

As for USA politicians are always dirty, and it doesn't matter who win her policy still the same, not much change, the president can only tune down the policy a little bit. The policy of US are control by a group of private bankers which have control of the FED.
 
.
What does this thread or article have to do with China ?


Somebody in this world just can’t conceal their inferiority complex as evidenced again. :lol:


Back to the topic.

One biggest mistake VCP committed so far in foreign policy is to make your north neighbor China your enemy. It is THE most stupid and silliest blunder. If you keep this policy, sooner or later Vietnam will again be part of China.

LOL! On lighter side, make it real: China will not go away. It has been your neighbor for thousands of years.
 
.
Somebody in this world just can’t conceal their inferiority complex as evidenced again. :lol:


Back to the topic.

One biggest mistake VCP committed so far in foreign policy is to make your north neighbor China your enemy. It is THE most stupid and silliest blunder. If you keep this policy, sooner or later Vietnam will again be part of China.

LOL! On lighter side, make it real: China will not go away. It has been your neighbor for thousands of years.

Don't say idiot thing. China betrayed Vietnam in cold war and backed Kh'mer Rouge to attack Vietnam and himself China attacked Vietnam for favor of US. Idiot neighbor.
 
.
Do not presume that whatever China does, the rest of Asia will follow. Viet Nam will be a multi-party politics and reasonably democratic country in our lifetime. Hồ Chí Minh City will revert to Sài Gòn, just as how the Russians have done for their cities.
You sounded like you almost believed this crap you just wrote.
 
.
Don't say idiot thing. China betrayed Vietnam in cold war and backed Kh'mer Rouge to attack Vietnam and himself China attacked Vietnam for favor of US. Idiot neighbor.

I always think it is interesting because according to the CCP's viewpoint Vietnam was the traitor.
 
.
Vietnam's Prime Minister Survives Challenge
Top Leaders Urge Stronger Leadership Amid Rising Protests

WO-AL426_VIETNA_G_20121015182904.jpg

Protesters are growing more daring. Above, security forces confront anti-China demonstrators in Hanoi in July.

HANOI—Vietnam's Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung survived a leadership challenge Monday as he struggles to stabilize the country's foundering economy, but he and other top leaders now face growing pressure from a new and pervasive threat here: the Internet.

Ruling Communist Party Secretary-General Nguyen Phu Trong acknowledged in a televised broadcast that the party had mishandled the management of Vietnam's economy, which is now facing mounting bad debts and slowing growth rates that are taking the shine off what had been one of Asia's brightest economic success stories. Speaking at the end of a two-week meeting that analysts viewed as a judgment on Mr. Dung's performance, Mr. Trong urged the Politburo, the country's top policy-making body, to overcome its weaknesses and exert stronger leadership.

AI-BW388_VIETNA_DV_20121015141503.jpg

VN Prime Minister Mr Dung

Mr. Dung wasn't mentioned by name, but analysts say it was a scorching rebuke for a man who has built a considerable power base in the government and bureaucracy since being appointed in 2006, and the verdict will likely spread more power among other key Politburo members. The prime minister couldn't be reached to comment.

Indeed, the meeting triggered widespread speculation about how long Mr. Dung, 62 years old, could survive as prime minister of this tightly controlled state after a series of economic missteps, including the bankruptcy of state-owned shipbuilder Vinashin in 2010 and several currency devaluations.

And, in what could become a recurring problem for Vietnam's rigid Communist hierarchy, much of the speculation and criticism came from a series of popular new Internet sites.

The most influential of these sites appeared five months ago. Called Quan Lam Bao, or Officials Doing Journalism, its anonymous contributors purported to provide an inside track on the goings-on at the highest echelons of power in Vietnam with a distinctly tabloid flair.

Quan Lam Bao's first posts detailed the alleged love lives of leading party figures, and then reported the arrest of banking executives implicated in financial scandals before their detentions were widely known. More recently, users have logged on to the site to lay into Mr. Dung. Typical posts describe Mr. Dung as "a parasite" or "a dictator," or else attempt to ridicule his record during Vietnam's war with the United States by calling him a nurse, among other things.

Mr. Dung wasted little time in responding. Last month he ordered police to investigate Quan Lam Bao and two other websites and shut them down for publishing misleading articles, while a government statement described them as part of a "wicked plot" planned by "hostile forces"—a term frequently used here to describe pro-democracy activists. Separately, three prominent bloggers were sentenced to lengthy prison terms in what analysts say was an attempt to scare off Internet users from breaking the country's strict laws by calling for multiparty democracy or challenging the authorities of the Communist Party.

The sites, though, continued to draw wide attention, driven in part by their controversial allegations, and the approach of a crucial Communist Party meeting to determine Mr. Dung's fate and discuss ways to inject fresh vim into Vietnam's sputtering economy.

"The success of these Internet sites is a failure of the Communist Party to make itself transparent," said Nguyen Quang A, one of Vietnam's best-known economists and the founder of its only independent think tank, before it was disbanded three years ago. "Now the Internet is amplifying the rumors because people think that what they read is true," he said. The Internet is playing an increasingly important role in Vietnamese life.

Around 34% of the country's 90 million people are online, a greater proportion than in neighboring countries such as Thailand and Indonesia, and there are over 110 million registered cellular phones. Digital activists and independent analysts say ordinary Vietnamese frequently turn to the Internet to get a better idea of what is going on in the country because of extensive state control of mainstream television broadcasters and newspapers.

Analysts say Vietnam's leaders are wary of the impact of the Internet, and closely observed the spread of Arab Spring uprisings across the Middle East and North Africa last year. Today, only China detains more Internet users, according to Reporters Without Borders.

AI-BW386_VIETNA_NS_20121015115703.jpg


Vietnam's economic slowdown also encourages people to make their voices heard. A persistent double-digit inflation prompted the government to sharply raise interest rates last year, stalling bank lending and stifling the rest of the economy. This year the government expects the economy to grow 5.5%, well off its customary 7%-plus growth rates in recent years.

At the same time, some Vietnamese are growing more concerned about whether their land will be reallocated when a series of land-right agreements expire over the next couple of years. Already there have been several violent clashes as security forces attempt to evict farmers. In Vietnam, the state owns all land, and the government distributed large plots in land-use agreements 20 years ago and which are now expiring.

"People are much more willing to express their dissatisfaction now, and often go online to do it," said Maria Patrikainen, an analyst with IHS Global Insight in London, who adds that the government now has to perform a difficult balancing act between allowing a degree of criticism, and protecting its own standing in the country.

"There is a lot of frustration, and this is a long-term problem the Party has to face," she said.

Write to James Hookway at james.hookway@wsj.com

Vietnam's Prime Minister Survives Challenge - WSJ.com
 
.
AI-BW386_VIETNA_NS_20121015115703.jpg



You failed if you're trying to show China has more jailed internet activists than Vietnam. China has 15 times more people than Vietnam so you have to go by proportional comparison. The numbers should be: Vietnam 285 China 67 or Vietnam 19 China 4.5, your choice.
 
.
Somebody in this world just can’t conceal their inferiority complex as evidenced again. :lol:


Back to the topic.

One biggest mistake VCP committed so far in foreign policy is to make your north neighbor China your enemy. It is THE most stupid and silliest blunder. If you keep this policy, sooner or later Vietnam will again be part of China.

LOL! On lighter side, make it real: China will not go away. It has been your neighbor for thousands of years.
Thats Your Chinese view.
Vietnam's view are to be friends with the whole world, who is to say Vietnam can't implement those foreign policies?
This 21st century, you still dreaming of Vietnam be China providence LOL now that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom