Vietnamese hate China but VN people run crazily to Chinese border

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Vietnamese hate China but VN people run crazily to Chinese border
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[Viet]

Not much different to Germany (left)-Poland (right) border. There is a minor difference though: the richer Germans don’t force the poorer Poles to run across the border. The Poles can use any transport means they want. I believe the Chinese just want to humiliate Vietnam.

 

[AViet]

I believe majority, even absolute majority, of Vietnamese have positive general views of China.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Not much different to Germany (left)-Poland (right) border. There is a minor difference though: the richer Germans don’t force the poorer Poles to run across the border. The Poles can use any transport means they want. I believe the Chinese just want to humiliate Vietnam.

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You said before yourself: The Chinese Communist Party will collapse and the Chinese people will not. Then I want to ask you, which party is leading your beloved Vietnamese government?

I believe majority, even absolute majority, of Vietnamese have positive general views of China.

Most Chinese do not hate Vietnamese. We also know that Vietnamese are hardworking and kind Vietnamese who have been suffering from Western aggression for a long time.
That is why we have below:

2)However, after Ho Chi Minh’s death, Li Sun(Lê Duẩn) believed that the Soviet Union was stronger than China,Vietnam believes that if it becomes a close ally of the Soviet Union, it can get more benefits.and stood on the side of the Soviet Union, betraying the friendship created by blood of China and Vietnam.
The aggressive expansion strategy adopted by the Vietnamese government in the 1970s and 1980s, including invading Laos and Cambodia, provoking the Thai territory, provoking the Chinese border , slaughtering and expelling Chinese in Vietnam, confiscation of Chinese Vietnamese property, Rape Chinese women, send special forces to enter Chinese hospitals along the border to kill Chinese medical personnel and wounded soldiers,etc., This behavior will not be tolerated by any country or any government,let alone Chinese government.

3)When the Chinese army entered Vietnam to teach Vietnam lessons, the People’s Liberation Army found that Vietnam’s guns were aided by China, and Vietnam’s cannons were aided by China. Vietnam’s rice, flour, factories, railways, bridges, machinery, cars, etc.are basically all China's aid to build or supplied, and the Chinese army was really very and very angry.

4)Albania is another example of insatiable greed.
This is also the reason why China does not provide large-scale foreign aid any more, because it is not worthwhile, and countries still have to talk about national interests.

5)In addition to Laos and Pakistan, I oppose China's provision of any gratuitous assistance to any other country.
Pakistan and Laos respect China, so I would rather donate 10,000 US dollars to Pakistan and Laos . I will donate 0 yuan to North Korea and Vietnam.

 

[hiseen]

You said before yourself: The Chinese Communist Party will collapse and the Chinese people will not. Then I want to ask you, which party is leading your beloved Vietnamese government?


Most Chinese do not hate Vietnamese. We also know that Vietnamese are hardworking and kind Vietnamese who have been suffering from Western aggression for a long time.
That is why we have below:

2)However, after Ho Chi Minh’s death, Li Sun(Lê Duẩn) believed that the Soviet Union was stronger than China,Vietnam believes that if it becomes a close ally of the Soviet Union, it can get more benefits.and stood on the side of the Soviet Union, betraying the friendship created by blood of China and Vietnam.
The aggressive expansion strategy adopted by the Vietnamese government in the 1970s and 1980s, including invading Laos and Cambodia, provoking the Thai territory, provoking the Chinese border , slaughtering and expelling Chinese in Vietnam, confiscation of Chinese Vietnamese property, etc., This behavior will not be tolerated by any country or any government,let along Chinese government.

They have found a new father now. USA.
Based on the existence of the Pacific Ocean without the need to repair the border wall, Trump is very happy!

 

[AViet]

You said before yourself: The Chinese Communist Party will collapse and the Chinese people will not. Then I want to ask you, which party is leading your beloved Vietnamese government?


Most Chinese do not hate Vietnamese. We also know that Vietnamese are hardworking and kind Vietnamese who have been suffering from Western aggression for a long time.
That is why we have below:

2)However, after Ho Chi Minh’s death, Li Sun(Lê Duẩn) believed that the Soviet Union was stronger than China,Vietnam believes that if it becomes a close ally of the Soviet Union, it can get more benefits.and stood on the side of the Soviet Union, betraying the friendship created by blood of China and Vietnam.
The aggressive expansion strategy adopted by the Vietnamese government in the 1970s and 1980s, including invading Laos and Cambodia, provoking the Thai territory, provoking the Chinese border , slaughtering and expelling Chinese in Vietnam, confiscation of Chinese Vietnamese property, Rape Chinese women, send special forces to enter Chinese hospitals along the border to kill Chinese medical personnel and wounded soldiers,etc., This behavior will not be tolerated by any country or any government,let along Chinese government.

3)When the Chinese army entered Vietnam to teach Vietnam lessons, the People’s Liberation Army found that Vietnam’s guns were aided by China, and Vietnam’s cannons were aided by China. Vietnam’s rice, flour, factories, railways, bridges, machinery, cars, etc.are basically all China's aid to build or supplied, and the Chinese army was really very and very angry.

4)Albania is another example of insatiable greed.
This is also the reason why China does not provide large-scale foreign aid any more, because it is not worthwhile, and countries still have to talk about national interests.

5)In addition to Laos and Pakistan, I oppose China's provision of any gratuitous assistance to any other country.
Pakistan and Laos respect China, so I would rather donate 10,000 US dollars to Pakistan and Laos . I will donate 0 yuan to North Korea and Vietnam.

First, Le Duan was a nationalist, who disliked both the Soviet Union and China (as per my understanding). He rejected the Soviet request to shake hand with the US and said "even if you stop aid, we would still fight the US". We almost disconnected with the Soviet Union in 1960s when they was led by Khrushchev. (My father was to be sent to the Soviet Union to study university then, but stopped because of worsening relationship between two countries)

Second, both Vietnam and China have things to blame on each other. This is normal between a very big country and its much smaller neighbor, especially when we are almost like brothers in every aspects. We celebrate same days in lunar calendar, we have a common ancestor in our mythology (Shennong / Than Nong), our belief are almost same...The grudge between 02 brother countries who live side by side for thousands years is normal. No need to keep blaming.

Vietnam saved Cambodia from being deleted on the world map by Polpot, who was supported by China. That does not prevent Cambodian to continue to be grudged against Vietnam and try to be closer to China now. This is normal in politics.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

First, Le Duan was a nationalist, who disliked both the Soviet Union and China (as per my understanding). He rejected the Soviet request to shake hand with the US and said "even if you stop aid, we would still fight the US". We almost disconnected with the Soviet Union in 1960s when they was led by Khrushchev. (My father was to be sent to the Soviet Union to study university then, but stopped because of worsening relationship between two countries)

Second, both Vietnam and China have things to blame on each other. This is normal between a very big country and its much smaller neighbor, especially when we are almost like brothers in every aspects. We celebrate same days in lunar calendar, we have a common ancestor in our mythology (Shennong / Than Nong), our belief are almost same...The grudge between 02 brother countries who live side by side for thousands years is normal. No need to keep blaming.

Vietnam saved Cambodia from being deleted on the world map by Polpot, who was supported by China. That does not prevent Cambodian to continue to be grudged against Vietnam and try to be closer to China now. This is normal in politics.

Your Vietnamese government still occupies the South China Sea islands and reefs that Ho Chi Minh admits belongs to China. Therefore, there will be no real peace between China and Vietnam, only a short truce!
I feel very, very sorry, but this is the reality. Unless you VN gives up the Communist rule, you will not become the real younger brother of the United States neither.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Your Vietnamese government still occupies the South China Sea islands and reefs that Ho Chi Minh admits belongs to China. Therefore, there will be no real peace between China and Vietnam, only a short truce!
I feel very, very sorry, but this is the reality. Unless you VN gives up the Communist rule, you will not become the real younger brother of the United States neither.

Actually, Vnese think CCP is dying under US sanction now, almost no one care abt CN any more, we only care how to make more money from TPP how to keep GDP growth more than 7% like in 2018.

CN is dead, at least to VNese now

 

[Sanchez]

Viets can not afford to hate China! We'll nail you down anytime we want!

 

[S10]

There are tons of illegal Vietnamese labourers in Guangxi and Yunnan.

Vietnam is to China what Mexico is to USA.

 

[艹艹艹]

I believe majority, even absolute majority, of Vietnamese have positive general views of China.

South Vietnamese and north Vietnamese seem to think differently

 

[grandmaster]

Some vietnamese here are not really vietnamese, they are vietnamese americans, reading their english can tell you. They have deep hatred and jealousy on China. In vn, some are brainwashed by vietnamese americans through internet, facebook social media and Western propaganda such as via, rfa, rfi, bbc, etc,. These groups hate China just like vietnamese americans. The rest or the poor are friendly with China.
The Vietnamese propaganda machine was changed under Dung, his legacy still there and has not been changed under new leaders. Vietnamese propaganda likes to reuse Western's anti-china propaganda contents for their news.
That is why you see contradiction among vietnamese.

 

[Place Of Space]

First, Le Duan was a nationalist, who disliked both the Soviet Union and China (as per my understanding). He rejected the Soviet request to shake hand with the US and said "even if you stop aid, we would still fight the US". We almost disconnected with the Soviet Union in 1960s when they was led by Khrushchev. (My father was to be sent to the Soviet Union to study university then, but stopped because of worsening relationship between two countries)

Second, both Vietnam and China have things to blame on each other. This is normal between a very big country and its much smaller neighbor, especially when we are almost like brothers in every aspects. We celebrate same days in lunar calendar, we have a common ancestor in our mythology (Shennong / Than Nong), our belief are almost same...The grudge between 02 brother countries who live side by side for thousands years is normal. No need to keep blaming.

Vietnam saved Cambodia from being deleted on the world map by Polpot, who was supported by China. That does not prevent Cambodian to continue to be grudged against Vietnam and try to be closer to China now. This is normal in politics.

I agree you with most of points but the Polpot. Polpot was supported by USA and Thailand, you need to make clear this history.

 

[andylrd]

I believe majority, even absolute majority, of Vietnamese have positive general views of China.

I personally guess so.
There is no "big hatred" between the two countries. Bad-mouths just due to Propaganda (both sides I guess, but Vietnam side is too much).

You can see some Vietnamese hate China, due to propaganda and nationalism.
You can also see some Chinese look down on Vietnam, due to arrogance and a feel of being betrayed.

Both are to be blamed.
It is a pity that Vietnam toke an opposite stand towards China, while side with SV. Though this is understandable, after all SV was much stronger at that time. Was it be me, I might do the same.
It is a pity that China and Vietnam don't have a friendly relation due to history, after all Vietnam is the most "sinological" country to china. To me, it is a brother fight.

I have been to Vietnam, so I have first-hand experience of how vietnamese people feel and view on chinese. As a group, vietnamese feel is a mixture of envy, admire, skeptic, distrust, like family, like enemy...
But most people are quite simple and friendly, no doubt.

By the way, one of my colleague (currently work in Vinh Phuc), is going to marry a vietnamese girl this year. The girl says yes already.

 

[Viva_Viet]

I personally guess so.
There is no "big hatred" between the two countries. Bad-mouths just due to Propaganda (both sides I guess, but Vietnam side is too much).

You can see some Vietnamese hate China, due to propaganda and nationalism.
You can also see some Chinese look down on Vietnam, due to arrogance and a feel of being betrayed.

Both are to be blamed.
It is a pity that Vietnam toke an opposite stand towards China, while side with SV. Though this is understandable, after all SV was much stronger at that time. Was it be me, I might do the same.
It is a pity that China and Vietnam don't have a friendly relation due to history, after all Vietnam is the most "sinological" country to china. To me, it is a brother fight.

I have been to Vietnam, so I have first-hand experience of how vietnamese people feel and view on chinese. As a group, vietnamese feel is a mixture of envy, admire, skeptic, distrust, like family, like enemy...
But most people are quite simple and friendly, no doubt.

By the way, one of my colleague (currently work in Vinh Phuc), is going to marry a vietnamese girl this year. The girl says yes already.

Actually many CNese worry CN may collapse under US's sanction now, so they r looking for support from VN cos both r communist nations.

Of course we say NO ! CN collapse is better for VN, no more trouble maker in our Northern border. Russia also want CN dead, so Russia can take more CN lands