Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon

[Anony]

Japan is the third largest economy in the world and they're suffering due to China boycotting their products. What do you think the chance of Vietnam surviving a trade war with China?

If all the neighbours of China and Asean nations together boycott Chinese products, within next three years China's economy will fail.

 

[NewCastle2012]

Don't say it, just do it.

If all the neighbours of China and Asean nations together boycott Chinese products, within next three years China's economy will fail.

 

[Kolaps]

If all the neighbours of China and Asean nations together boycott Chinese products, within next three years China's economy will fail.

So does China neighbors will suffer as well. Trade is a mutual benefit, win-win solution. But I don't think China will fail, because export is a small part of China GDP. China even had a trade deficit with ASEAN and Japan.

Japan is in a very bad position. Because of decades of anti Made in Japan campaign in the West, including the recent Toyota case, where their CEO being called to US congress for over brake problem (from US supplier). And now Japan is also looking for trouble in China.

In many way, China was very good to Japan. What Japan lost in the West, they gained in China. As some economists said Japan didn't collapse during 2008 credit crunch, because they backed up by China. Japan betrayed China by accepting as proxy for US.

People in South Asia don't understand the situation in East Asia.

 

[Viet]

Don't say it, just do it.

We do. The Vietnamese government launches a 3-year campaign aiming 80 percent of domestic consumers using Vietnamese goods by 2015.

http://english.vov.vn/Economy/80-pe...ers-using-Vietnamese-goods-by-2015/251541.vov

 

[Kolaps]

We do. The Vietnamese government launches a 3-year campaign aiming 80 percent of domestic consumers using Vietnamese goods by 2015.

80 percent of domestic consumers using Vietnamese goods by 2015 | VOV Online Newspaper

Sound like another ultra-nationalistic movement like South Korea.

 

[Viet]

Sound like another ultra-nationalistic movement like South Korea.

No, the campaign just aims to boost domestic production and consumption and reduce imports.

 

[gpit]

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In short, ancient Vietnam saw itself as real China. So actually you were seen as barbarian.

I am not surprised that ancient Vietnamese wanted to be Chinese by calling or otherwise imaging themselves as the Chinese. But your second sentence is an obvious BS from 荻，荑，蛮，狨, as your Viets were so eager in adopting Chinese language, which you deemed as a superior system for many reasons.

This was not a singular instance in long, documented Chinese history. Huns wanted to be Chinese, Jin (Qing’s ancestors) wanted to be Chinese. Mongols became Chinese successfully by conquering China, they proclaimed that they got the “heaven’s mandate” and became Chinese in their declaration of Yuan Dynasty. Qing also merged themselves forcefully into China as Chinese. Vietnamese seemed to fail in doing so because it was not an easy task.

... When Hans 漢Chinese was in Zhong Yuan 中原 insulted other Chinese: 北狄, 東夷, 南蠻. You are internal Chinese 化內之民, if you dont live today in 中原 you could be 北狄, 東夷, or 南蠻.
Vietnamese are non-chinese people 化外之民, no related to 化內人民 including 漢 + 北狄, 東夷, 南蠻.

All Vietnamese and Chinese readers:

The distinct and brilliant Chinese civilization was, for some unknown reason, only originated from a small region called Yellow River Basin:

The Yellow River basin has an east-west extent of 1900 km (1,180 mi) and a north-south extent of 1100 km (684 mi). Its total basin area is 742,443 km² (290,520 mi²).

Yellow River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why it was only originated there, not anywhere else (such as in Yangtze River), it is still in a debate. Although it is found that in many areas, there were signs of civilization such as in Zhejiang province (Liang Zhu Liangzhu culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and somewhere else, but none is comparable with that of Yellow River Basin.

However, as a famous Chinese historian (sorry I forget the name) said, in old times the peripheral were full of uncivilized “barbarians”, and they mostly relied on insects, animals, weeds, etc. to live and to teach. Thus their names were with insects, animals and weeds (such as 荻，荑，蛮，狨. Please note that in earlier Vietnamese posts, those writings are not correct. Please pardon them as they don’t know what they are writing due to different civilization). Chinese is more of civilization than just human genes.

This scholar went on: we are fortunate since our ancestors were able to come into contact with Chinese civilization and absorbed it so we eventually got rid of the insects, animals, weeds parts and civilized to become true humans.

Look around peripheral of today’s China, which has been about 10 time bigger in size, still there are number of places where people reject their Chinese civilization and abolish using Chinese language, causing themselves a big trouble: they lost their history and don’t know what to do as they side with insects, animals and weeds in today’s sense. Really, they have to think it deeply whether to keep that parts with them or thoroughly abandon them …

 

[gpit]

We do. The Vietnamese government launches a 3-year campaign aiming 80 percent of domestic consumers using Vietnamese goods by 2015.

80 percent of domestic consumers using Vietnamese goods by 2015 | VOV Online Newspaper

North Korea has been almost 100% on their own for decades, and you still need 3 more years?


You really have to learn harder from them.

 

[tomboy666]

well, you have to be afraid of china, since china has colonized vietnam for more than 1000 years, its possible for another 1000 years, depending on china's will

 

[tomboy666]

thats only in your self made up lies, its your chinese master who founded you vietnemaese's first city , and you vietnamese are actually orginated from khmer race, your ancestor were from Cambodia, and then got enslaved by the chinese for 1200 years, so thats why your vietnamese language is the khmer language, but use chinese as your written lanugage for long time, later used the language made by your french master ,which is very pathetic, a nation or a people, have no self language, preobably only you vietnamese

 

[tomboy666]

no way, a typical brainwashed korean , tang rulers are han chinese, while korean king Wang Geon is a han chinese, whose father is chinese from tang daynasty , its recorded in korean ancient history book 高麗世系, but you korean cant read it since all your histroy book were written in chinese, which is also very pathetic, a nation and a people cant read their own history because their history is written in a foreign language, you korean are same backward as vietnamese, having no your own language ,haha and btw, the huns are the chinese origin, they are decedants of xia people, they are not turkic, the huihu 回护 are the turick people , never the huns

Tang rulers were Xianbei(Mongolian), not Huns.

Huns = Turkic race
Xianbei, Khitan = Mongolic race
Jurchen/Manchus = Tungusic race

 

[tomboy666]

If all the neighbours of China and Asean nations together boycott Chinese products, within next three years China's economy will fail.

well, 1st of all, china has so many neighbour countries, only vietnam, india, japan, south korea are hostile to china, that would not happen, india and vietnam are very poor countries, and japan are the dead one, south korea has to rely on china's big market, it dare not boycott china, or it will die first,

2, china's main trade parterner is the europe and america and other countries, you three poor countries are never the concern of china , to be frank, so stop dream on

 

[tomboy666]

No, the campaign just aims to boost domestic production and consumption and reduce imports.

hi, viet , you must be a vietnamese, one thing , i think you are a reasonable guy, quite polite,

but to be honest, i dont like your aviator, probably not your fault, but in that picture, a vietnamese wearing a chinese style armour, which looks shameful since it will remind the world of your enslaved history by the chinese for 1100 years, and its sensible for you to change it, and i know you probably would say thats a vietnamese traditional armour, but except for your vient cung communist propaganda, everybody in world knows vietnamese copied everything from your former chinese masters from lanugages, to arts, to costumes, to music, to architecture, to medicine......, even your family name and first name, you can name it , whatever in vietnam, either are from your chinese master or from your french masters,

 

[tomboy666]

those must be all stone motorbikes from the local chinese rich guys, in vietnam, the only rich people are the ethnic chinese, who control much of vietnam's economy just like all other south east asia countries, the chinese are the upclass with big wealth, while you vietnamese are very poor people as always throughout your entire history, enslaved or just interdependent

 

[tomboy666]

We do. The Vietnamese government launches a 3-year campaign aiming 80 percent of domestic consumers using Vietnamese goods by 2015.

i dont think its realistic, because vietnam is very poor and backward country, you have no any home technology ,but rely on totally foreign technology and investment, from we taiwan( republic of china), china, south korea, and japan, there is no so called vietnamese domestic products actually, stop believe in your vietnamese communist propaganda, your country still have long way to go, i would say, another 1000 years to get modernized like others

Teenage in Vietnam like such motorbikes Piaggio Liberty S (Italia) and Honda SH 2012 (Japan) made in Vietnam.

those must be all stolen motorbikes from the local chinese rich guys, in vietnam, the only rich people are the ethnic chinese, who control much of vietnam's economy just like all other south east asia countries, the chinese are the upclass with big wealth, while you vietnamese are very poor people as always throughout your entire history, enslaved or just interdependent