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Vietnam stocks head for worst drop since 2001

The only bad thing is that it will not be a land war. Most likely the war will only happen out at sea and china has a major advantage in that type of scenario.
Yeah, so I called it the worst. But our history VN never back down before invaders.

If war between china and vietnam.chinese stock will going historic high.
You wrong, just need chinese oil line through SCS interruption, the chinese stocks will be dyed red.
 
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Yes, on the construction sites, I learn English very hard. I hope one day I can go to to college and learn Vietnamese.

Again here you are behaving like the victims, crying and condemning China for any thing. Don't blame others for your government's failure not to treat you people well. I really hope these kids get better lives.

Chinese immigrants condemned China Govt too. Media in China reported that the man from Shandong immigrated Guangdong for job was beaten badly. He became disabled. He has been mad a suicidal attack on airport Peking to condemn Chinese authority. You can check it in internet China.

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Its also reported that the poverty in Canada is South Asian (25%), Chinese (24%) and Black (15%). Chinese immigrant is no better than others. Chinese members can stop troll on other, look at yourselves first.

Snapshot of racialized Poverty in Canada
 
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Chinese immigrants condemned China Govt too. Media in China reported that the man from Shandong immigrated Guangdong for job was beaten badly. He became disabled. He has been mad a suicidal attack on airport Peking to condemn Chinese authority. You can check it in internet China.

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Its also reported that the poverty in Canada is South Asian (25%), Chinese (24%) and Black (15%). Chinese immigrant is no better than others. Chinese members can stop troll on other, look at yourselves first.

Snapshot of racialized Poverty in Canada

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If this Viet know anything about immigration to Canada, immigrants must have minimum $500k asset as collateral before they are able to come over.

Second, most of these people are business people and if you know the business tax laws in Canada, most sole proprietorship try to lower their earnings, taxes paid will be way less. It's funny, my friend who claims to make $25k/year in his business drives a BMW X6 and lives in a $1m house . :enjoy:

Lastly, why da fuq are you quoting a 2006 study?
 
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First, this profile is an overview of all racialized persons living in poverty. It does not look at specific racialized groups.



If this Viet know anything about immigration to Canada, immigrants must have minimum $500k asset as collateral before they are able to come over.

Second, most of these people are business people and if you know the business tax laws in Canada, most sole proprietorship try to lower their earnings, taxes paid will be way less. It's funny, my friend who claims to make $25k/year in his business drives a BMW X6 and lives in a $1m house . :enjoy:

Lastly, why da fuq are you quoting a 2006 study?
R u talking about investor immigration?

Investor Immigration In Canada By Province | Canada Immigration Lawyers | Pace Law Firm
 
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Limits to the profile
First, this profile is an overview of all racialized persons living in poverty. It does not look at specific racialized groups.



If this Viet know anything about immigration to Canada, immigrants must have minimum $500k asset as collateral before they are able to come over.

Second, most of these people are business people and if you know the business tax laws in Canada, most sole proprietorship try to lower their earnings, taxes paid will be way less. It's funny, my friend who claims to make $25k/year in his business drives a BMW X6 and lives in a $1m house . :enjoy:

Lastly, why da fuq are you quoting a 2006 study?

have you data updated for that Chinese immigrants living in poverty in Canada is reduced ?
 
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Rig 981 drilling ahead per schedule

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Will move to 2 nearby blocks after 100 days as planned
 
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again, China has no right to drill in our EEZ. they could pass by but drilling is another matter. their govt know well about that
 
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Paracel does not legally belongs to you, since you invaded us and taken it by forces, and Paracels has no damn EEZ do you understand that simple fact?

From CNN:
With Britain on the verge of defeat, U.S. military leaders were unanimous in urging Roosevelt to stop sending our limited supply of weapons overseas and instead focus on rearming at home. At that time the U.S. Army stood only 18th in the world, trailing not only Germany, France, Britain, Russia, Italy, Japan and China, but also Holland, Spain, and Romania!

Just google it. Oh you have no google, sorry.
And you just miss my point. People once thought the Soviet Union/the USA had gone mad when they stood up against the powerful Nazi and Fascism.
It does, my friend because everyone recognized we control it. From a legal standpoint, it is none dispute and fait accompli. You cannot change that fact.

First and foremost, learn history. You Vietnamese are some of the worse at history. CNN is not a good source and I doubt what you wrote had any meaningful truth to it. The US is an industrial superpower. They can outproduce tanks, war materials, and ammunition than Nazi Germany who was only 2nd industrial power behind the USA. You do understand that the US population is higher than Nazi Germany at the time right? Mobilization of manpower is very easy for large population country. US population is only behind China, India, and Soviet Union at the time but their industrial output is unrivaled. This is important because your strength during war depend on how fast you can produce weapon. Consider this, China in 2014 is the US's in 1914. Now give China experience in manufacturing arms in 2040s, you get can equivalent idea of what the US were in 1940s.

Learn, my friend. Don't waste my time. You are not knowledgeable enough to have proper discussion over US's strength in WWII.

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America Enters the War

At the very moment his troops were being decimated on the outskirts of Moscow in early December 1941, Adolf Hitler's attention was riveted elsewhere. On Sunday, December 7, 1941, Japanese warplanes had attacked the U.S. Naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The next day, responding to the devastating air raid which killed over 2,400 American sailors and wounded another thousand, the United States declared war on Japan.

This had enormous implications for Hitler. By this time, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, along with Fascist Italy, had entered into a strategic agreement known as the Tripartite Pact, pledging to provide mutual military assistance in the event any one of them was attacked by a nation not already involved in the war. The year-old Pact had been crafted mainly to intimidate America and to discourage it from helping Britain.

As an added measure, outside of the formal agreement, Hitler had given a verbal promise to the Japanese Foreign Minister that Germany would join the fight if Japan attacked America. It was a promise that would change history.

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Deep down, the war-making potential of the United States worried Hitler, although he never missed an opportunity to mock America and President Roosevelt, publicly and in private, if only to reassure himself. From a racial viewpoint, he gleefully expressed a low opinion of America, describing multiracial United States as a "mongreloid" nation, unlike pure-bred Germany. For that reason alone, Hitler asserted, the fighting ability of the U.S. Army would pale in comparison to superior Germany. He also reasoned it would take years for the U.S. to adequately rearm. By that time, he believed, Nazi Germany would be victorious in Europe, while Japan would triumph in East Asia and the South Pacific by waging its own brand of Blitzkrieg.

Interestingly, the Japanese had not bothered to inform Hitler prior to their attack on Pearl Harbor – just as Hitler had not informed the Japanese prior to his attack on Russia – an indication of the coy and somewhat shady relationship between the two military allies.

Pearl Harbor therefore took the Nazis by surprise. When it occurred, Hitler was at his military headquarters for the Russian Front, a bunker complex called Wolf's Lair, in Rastenburg, East Prussia. On hearing the news, he rushed back to Berlin to mull things over.

Technically, according to the Tripartite Pact, the Germans were not obliged to declare war on the U.S., because Japan, not America, had been the aggressor. But Hitler was inclined to honor his personal promise and declare war anyway, believing it would greatly strengthen the German-Japanese alliance. He also assumed the United States was on the verge of declaring war on Germany and wanted to embarrass President Roosevelt by beating him to the punch.

Additionally, a war declaration would allow his submarines to unleash their full fury against the American warships now protecting British convoys in the North Atlantic. Hitler knew this would be welcome news for his eager U-boat commanders, restrained till now from unprovoked attacks on U.S. warships. By this time, America had become Britain's lifeline, supplying the British with enormous amounts of food, fuel, war materials and manufactured goods, in accordance with President Roosevelt's Lend-Lease Act.

With the United States reeling from the Pearl Harbor attack, Hitler calculated, the bulk of America's naval power would surely be diverted to the South Pacific, away from Europe, thereby leaving the Atlantic shipping lanes vulnerable. And this played to Germany's advantage.

All things considered, therefore, a declaration of war against the U.S. appeared to be best move. Hitler mulled it over a little longer, then made the final decision on Tuesday, December 9th. He spent the next two days fine-tuning the war announcement speech he would make, especially the parts intended to soothe the already jangled nerves of the German people.

On Thursday, December 11, 1941, Hitler strode to the podium inside the packed Reichstag in Berlin for his speech which was also broadcast live around the world on radio. To the delight of the Nazi deputies, he ridiculed President Franklin Roosevelt and America: “I will pass over the insulting attacks made by this so-called President against me. That he calls me a gangster is uninteresting. After all, this expression was not coined in Europe, but in America, no doubt because such gangsters are lacking here."

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Hitler receives unanimous support from his Nazi Reichstag deputies during his December 11th speech declaring war on America. Below: President Franklin Roosevelt signs the U.S. Declaration of War against Germany on December 11th..
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Next, he mocked Roosevelt's leadership abilities: "National Socialism came to power in Germany in the same year as Roosevelt was elected President…While an unprecedented revival of economic life, culture and art took place in Germany under National Socialist leadership, President Roosevelt did not succeed in bringing about even the slightest improvement in his own country."

Following this, in keeping with his oft-stated theme of an international Jewish conspiracy, Hitler claimed they were unduly influencing Roosevelt: "A threatening [political] opposition was gathering over the head of this man. He guessed that the only salvation for him lay in diverting public attention from home to foreign policy...He was strengthened in this by the Jews around him...The full diabolical meanness of Jewry rallied around this man and he stretched out his hands. Thus began the increasing efforts of the American President to create conflicts...For years this man harbored one desire – that a conflict should break out somewhere in the world."

Finally, he blamed Roosevelt for the Japanese attack: "The fact that the Japanese Government, which has been negotiating for years with this man, has at last become tired of being mocked by him in such an unworthy way fills us all, the German people and, I think, all other decent people in the world, with deep satisfaction.”

In concluding, Hitler started to announce that Germany was henceforth breaking off diplomatic relations with America, but was drowned out mid-sentence by wildly cheering Nazi deputies in the hall.

Shortly after the speech, Foreign Minister Ribbentrop handed the formal war declaration to the ranking American diplomat in Germany, Leland Morris – in the absence of the U.S. ambassador who had been withdrawn by Roosevelt in 1938 following Kristallnacht.

The declaration accused the United States of "overt acts of war against Germany" and therefore "declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt, Germany too considers herself to be at war with the United States, as from today."

The American reaction was swift. That day, the United States Congress declared war on Germany at the behest of President Roosevelt who said: “Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization.”

Roosevelt, as U.S. Commander-in-Chief, therefore directed nearly 90 percent of America's military resources toward the defeat of Hitler, not Japan. As a result, the might of the world's largest industrial nation was turned against Nazi Germany.

For Hitler, declaring war on America would prove to be his biggest political mistake of the war – a truly lethal blunder. With the stroke of a pen he had greatly reduced the odds of Nazi Germany's survival. The Führer now had to contend with three principal opponents – America, Britain and Russia – whose combined reservoir of manpower and total war production capacity dwarfed Nazi Germany – at a time when Germany had already lost a quarter of all troops and many thousands of tanks and planes on the Russian Front.

Even worse, Hitler had foolishly joined Japan's war against America with absolutely no guarantee from the Japanese they would join his war against Russia. And they didn't. This allowed the Russians to transfer 30 well-trained Siberian divisions away from Japanese-threatened areas in southeastern Russia to the opposite side of the country, where they blasted away at the beleaguered Germans outside Moscow.

For Adolf Hitler, however, the consequences of December 11th were not readily apparent. By now, the Führer was seeing only what he wanted to see – recognizing only the facts he desired to support his own version of reality – his own truth.

Unlike his counterparts, Roosevelt, Churchill and even Stalin, who relied on trusted advisors or special committees for advice on foreign affairs, Hitler trusted no one. He made history-changing decisions on his own, relying on gut instinct, hunches, a hodgepodge of knowledge gathered through self-education, or outright guesses, all the while convinced of his own genius. In truth, when it came to formulating global strategy simultaneously involving the British Empire, Soviet Union, Imperial Japan and the United States – the Führer was an amateur who didn't have a clue.

Worse for Hitler, long gone were the days when he enjoyed even a pretense of legitimacy on the world stage. Now the civilized world only saw a villain, no better than the violent Nazi street thugs who had helped put him in power. His own allies, including Italy and Spain, saw a man who was wearing himself out running the armed forces, foreign affairs, and functioning as head of state, stubbornly on his own.

For the moment, however, Hitler could still reassure himself and any naysayers by gloating over a map showing a Nazi Empire stretching from the outskirts of Moscow all the way to Paris and from Scandinavia southward to Greece. And he remained confident victory would still come, regardless of the present circumstances.

His generals began to think otherwise. When they looked at the map they saw German forces badly over-extended throughout Russia, Europe, and now in North Africa, their latest venture. It was there, that Hitler's next setback occurred.
 
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To be honest, you cant beat China in a maritime dispute, even in the most delusional dreams. In fact even Taiwan or Malaysia can probably defeat Vietnam in a maritime war.This is not to denigrate Vietnam achievements progress in the past decades, but we have to be realists.
However what you said earlier is true, the U.S was rather weak militarily before WWII, In fact in a one to one combat, nobody stand a chance against Nazi Germany back then(even the U.S), they were more Powerful than any country on earth militarily. It was Hitler stupidity not to listen to his generals, and winter luck that saved Russia(though it paid a huge price of more than 20 million killed, equivalent to what China suffered against it battle with Japan).If not Russia would have been crushed by Germany. Also Germany was fighting against too many countries at the same time(U.S, Russia, U.K, and French insurgents). it wasn't feasible . The U.S despite being weak militarily before WWII had a large manufacturing base/Skill/Industries/Manpower/Land and natural resources. It had a large industrial base which made it easier for it to manufacture war weapons at a lightening speed, so much so that in a matter on 1-2 years it had gone from being a military midget to a world power greater than even Germany. It was due to it being at peace and having a large manufacturing base/Industries. Unfortunately for us, China does have that large Manufacturing base as well now and in a decade or so from now it will have even more.:pissed: This is the main reason it poses a challenge and threat to the U.S/western hegemony.
We need to understand the difference between militarily weak in active duty vs true military strength which can be measured by population size, industrial output, and geographical size. Let not forget that the US had a non-intervention policy, just like us now in China. It does not mean US were weak militarily even pre-WWIII. It means there is no real reason for the US to mobilize its true military strength when not facing threat to its core interest. What you see the US in WWII is what a real animal it can be when you force American to fight. In one on one, I do believe America will defeat the Nazi Germany because US were 1st in industrial output. Manpower, US had 130mil vs 90mil Nazi Germany. Technological innovation, both are relatively equal.
 
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Do you know how to read?

Let you, chinese say here that the poverty of Chinese immigrants in Canada is reduced. the data of 2996 is out of date.

Today, new generation Chinese immigrant to Canada, they are relates of corruption officials in China Govt. They are very rich. They could buy Mill $houses and BWV after arrival as you said.
 
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As China argument, no one could understand and accept, because the reason China give out to put the Oil Rig 981 there, could be used again to put Oil Rigs onto Vietnam Middle part beach ... Let's think !!!

Let me summarize China argument :
to China, a tiny disputed reef in SCS has its own EEZ 200nm if the reef controlled by China, there's no EEZ applied to any other countries coasts if overlapping to that "EEZ"

Scarborough Shoal is more far case, why China could claim for Scarborough ? But now they eaten it from PH, same to James Shoal of Malaysia, Natuna Islands of Indonesia ...

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We need to understand the difference between militarily weak in active duty vs true military strength which can be measured by population size, industrial output, and geographical size. Let not forget that the US had a non-intervention policy, just like us now in China. It does not mean US were weak militarily even pre-WWIII. It means there is no real reason for the US to mobilize its true military strength when not facing threat to its core interest. What you see the US in WWII is what a real animal it can be when you force American to fight. In one on one, I do believe America will defeat the Nazi Germany because US were 1st in industrial output. Manpower, US had 130mil vs 90mil Nazi Germany. Technological innovation, both are relatively equal.

Well Yes that's what i was saying, its because the U.S was forced into war, that's why it made use/pooled most of its resources towards a massive military build up, and given its industrial and large manufacturing base, it was able to rearm at lightening speed. So yes i agree with the difference between active military and real potential militarily strength through manpower,resources, landmass, industrial and manufacturing base which can be able to sustain/produce large armaments in short period of time. The latter is what China has, but the earlier one its achieving it gradually, since there's no immediate possibility of a full scale war.
But i disagree with your fact that the U.S would have defeated Nazis Germany on a one on one fight, Nazis Germany was way more advance technologically/militarily than any other nation during that period, including the U.S. So i don't believe America would have defeated Germany in a direct one on one battle. At best it will have been a stalemate. :-)
 
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Well Yes that's what i was saying, its because the U.S was forced into war, that's why it made use/pooled most of its resources towards a massive military build up, and given its industrial and large manufacturing base, it was able to rearm at lightening speed. So yes i agree with the difference between active military and real potential militarily strength through manpower,resources, landmass, industrial and manufacturing base which can be able to sustain/produce large armaments in short period of time. The latter is what China has, but the earlier one its achieving it gradually, since there's no immediate possibility of a full scale war.
But i disagree with your fact that the U.S would have defeated Nazis Germany on a one on one fight, Nazis Germany was way more advance technologically/militarily than any other nation during that period, including the U.S. So i don't believe America would have defeated Germany in a direct one on one battle. At best it will have been a stalemate. :-)
For a country from British, you are selling yourself quite short there. The British navy was the best and their airforce engaged the Nazi toe to toe. What Nazi had was number and lighting speed tactic but it came to an end when the allied recuperated and re-attacked. Nazi was on the defense then. The technological advance of Nazi is not that much higher than British and America. America is a land that attract many scientists and engineers, especially Jews who want to defeat the Nazi. The race to atomic bomb show who is more technological advance between USA and Nazi.
 
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