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If you thought your Samsung smartphone was made in China or South Korea, think again. Chances are you might find a “made in Vietnam” label if you look closely.

From Samsung to LG, and Intel to Panasonic, tech giants have expanded manufacturing operations in Vietnam over the years.

Electronics have been the country’s No 1 export item since 2013. In the first half of this year, export turnover of telecom equipment grew by a quarter to more than $13 billion from last year.

And it is not only the big tech names that have set up shop in Vietnam.

Since 2011, more than 5,000 companies including garment manufacturers from South China’s Guangdong province have relocated to Vietnam, according to the Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce.

Top reasons cited for relocation include cheaper work force and more tax incentives. Minimum wages in Vietnam are about two-thirds the levels in traditional manufacturing hubs such as Dongguan in Guangdong province.

More importantly, numerous free trade negotiations give the emerging economy a competitive edge.

Since mid-2013, Vietnam’s benchmark purchasing managers’ index for manufacturing has expanded every month — with readings above 50, according to data from Markit Economics.

Vietnam will be a part of any free trade agreements that will be signed in the future, according to Alberto Vettoretti, managing partner at consultancy Dezan Shira & Associates. “This is a strategic advantage Vietnam has over other countries,” he added.

Vietnam, too, is poised to benefit from the launch of a common market by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) at the end of this year. The ASEAN Economic Community (AEC) aims to allow the free flow of goods, services and labor in the region.

The AEC is expected to boost regional trade in manufacturing goods while Vietnamese products can be sold cheaper with tariff reductions.

The average intra-ASEAN tariffs are virtually zero for the six older ASEAN members including Singapore. Tariffs for the newer members including Vietnam are between zero and 5 percent, and will be eliminated gradually by 2018.

But with markets opening up, Vietnam will have to compete with other ASEAN countries.

“Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia can now sell to Vietnam as part of this agreement … but I think there will be more good than harm,” said Vettoretti.

“Vietnam is still the best option in ASEAN if you look at (factors) like labor, free trade, exchange rate and government.” He added that companies are well positioned to benefit from the “China plus one” strategy, referring to the expansion of their operations in China to a lower-cost Southeast Asian country like Vietnam.

Vietnam will soon become a party to free trade pacts with the European Union and the United States, the two largest export markets for the Southeast Asian country. Currently, half of its garment exports go to the US and about one-fourth to the EU.

Vietnam will boost garment exports to the US with the conclusion of the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). This is a proposed trade deal in which the US agrees to slash custom duties on Vietnamese goods from 17 percent to zero.

The trade pact between Vietnam and the EU signed in August is also expected to be finalized this year.

Once this agreement takes effect, the EU will open up its markets for seven years and will eliminate nearly 95 percent of tariffs on Vietnamese imports, including pharmaceutical products.

“EU agreements are coming, and if you can have the TPP as well, it’s lovely,” said Mark Sim, assistant vice-president of investment promotion at SembCorp Industries.

SembCorp is an investment holding company engaged in utilities, marine and urban development businesses worldwide and is partially controlled by the Singapore state-owned investment firm Temasek Holdings.

The company has operations in ASEAN countries including seven industrial parks in Vietnam and several others in Cambodia and Indonesia.

“Mind you, the only country that really benefits from TPP as a manufacturer is Vietnam,” Sim said, adding that other ASEAN economies do not have the necessary conditions to drive manufacturing.

DBS Bank forecasts Vietnam will overtake Singapore to become Asia’s fifth-largest electronics exporter over the next two years, having already surpassed the Philippines and Thailand.

“Malaysian politics is a bit of a tricky business just like political instability is an issue in many ASEAN countries. I would bet my future on Vietnam,” Sim said.

Vietnam and Cambodia are close competitors as the latter is vying to become a low-cost manufacturing base for foreign fashion labels.

“Electricity is unstable in Cambodia and (low) wages there will not hold very long,” Sim said.

Studies show that wages in Cambodia have risen to a level comparable with Vietnam. Minimum wages in Vietnam are between $104 and $147 per month. Cambodia raised garment workers’ monthly wages from $100 to $128 last year.

In Indonesia, substantial devaluation of the rupiah — a loss of 30 percent over the last two years — could make the country attractive to investors.

“It’s huge for manufacturing, but how can you plan for things like currency drop?” said Vettoretti of Dezan Shira & Associates.

He added that the large Muslim population in Indonesia means there is a very different way of doing business in the country.

And the fact that Indonesia is an archipelago with three time zones makes logistics difficult for manufacturers.

“You cannot possibly ship your products from Vietnam to Indonesia and redistribute to 17,000 islands, because it’s too spread out,” said Goh Puay Guan, vice-president of business development and commercial at SembCorp Development, a unit of SembCorp Industries.

“It makes more sense if you look at Indonesia as a domestic market and manufacture in Central Java.”

With experience in both markets, Goh said Vietnam is becoming more open to foreign investment than Indonesia. “You can think of it as China 10 to 20 years ago when Guangdong was hungry to lure foreign capital,” he said. “As countries become well off, regulations become tighter.”

For instance, a “made in Indonesia” smartphone law requires manufacturers that sell 4G phones in Indonesia to produce 30 percent of their devices locally by 2017.

Meanwhile, Vietnam has scrapped rules forbidding foreigners from owning more than 49 percent of a company from September, although sectors like banking are still subject to a 30 percent cap.

Vietnam also offers tax breaks to high-tech manufacturers such as Samsung — paying no tax for the first four years and half the standard rate for up to nine years.

Standard tax rate stands at 22 percent but the government plans to reduce it to 20 percent next year.

“Samsung is paying an average 6 percent of tax every year, which is not bad for its $10 billion investment in northern Vietnam,” said Vettoretti. “There are a lot of good tax incentives. You don’t have to be Samsung to get this.”

But smaller businesses are less optimistic.

Sharlyn Chen, deputy general manager at a metal supplier in southern China, is hesitant about moving the company’s production base to Vietnam to stay near its major client, Midea Group, a Chinese electrical appliance manufacturer that has opened factories in the Southeast Asian country.

“Operation cost is undoubtedly lower, but Vietnam is unfamiliar to many investors,” she said. “Infrastructure is just average; language and anti-Chinese sentiment are an issue.”

Labor strikes are not unheard of in Vietnam. An outbreak of anti-Chinese protests escalated into riots that affected some 1,000 factories last year.

But Vietnam’s manufacturing seems unaffected by the incident. Order was quickly restored and foreign manufacturers soon resumed operations. Last year, its foreign direct investment reached $15.6 billion, a rise of nearly 10 percent from 2013.

So is Vietnam going to overtake China as the world’s factory? Not quite yet.

Vietnam will be a major manufacturing hub in Asia, said Brian Wong, senior manager of the Chinese service group at Deloitte Vietnam. “Of course, China is still there, but Vietnam will be the second-largest in the region because a lot of trade will move there,” he said.

Last year, China’s electronics exports reached more than $500 billion compared to about $40 billion in Vietnam.

In other words, China is still at least 10 times bigger than Vietnam when it comes to electronics manufacturing although Vietnam is growing much faster in absolute terms.

As Vettoretti said: “China will dominate global manufacturing output in the foreseeable future, but part of it is trickling out to other ASEAN countries.

“Vietnam is just another bright spot. It will benefit most out of what is happening in China.”

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Any chance for China-Vietnam signing an FTA (outside the CAFTA)?
 
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China has FTA with the entire ASEAN bloc. why is it FTA necessary between China-VN? what is the difference?
 
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These exported items are obviously produced by "joint ventures". I am surprised that the VN export of rice and female false marriage are not on the top 10 list.
 
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These exported items are obviously produced by "joint ventures". I am surprised that the VN export of rice and female false marriage are not on the top 10 list.

with 1,4 bill population, china will be taken a first place.
 
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These exported items are obviously produced by "joint ventures". I am surprised that the VN export of rice and female false marriage are not on the top 10 list.
If that is what you got in mind when you read about business stuffs then do your brain check or check your bank to see how much you made today. Obvious, enough to buy some burger kings for dinner. There's something in the world called idiot or inferior, that comes from brain cell, you might check if you brain has it. Ever wonder why you in here speak like idiot and not the people in the article? see the different?
 
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China has FTA with the entire ASEAN bloc. why is it FTA necessary between China-VN? what is the difference?

Maybe a more inclusive one?

China signed FTA with Korea. But still negotiates trilateral FTA with Korea and Japan.

East Asia's FTA scheme already looks like a noodle bowl.
 
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Any chance for China-Vietnam signing an FTA (outside the CAFTA)?

Problem is that how to do balancing the trading between us, it is reported that Vietnam suffered huge deficit with China when China has devalueted Yuan recently.
 
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Problem is that how to do balancing the trading between us, it is reported that Vietnam suffered huge deficit with China when China has devalueted Yuan recently.

well wont Vietnam try other countries for trade to get better deal. try middle east qatar or dubai they got money.
 
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Good thread ruied by Chinese troll.

btw: We dont see any benefit from VN-CN FTA.
 
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Maybe a more inclusive one?

China signed FTA with Korea. But still negotiates trilateral FTA with Korea and Japan.

East Asia's FTA scheme already looks like a noodle bowl.

Not much benefit really, maybe in 10-15 years times, it is possible---when Vietnam have better economic ground and industrial capacity but not for now. Vietnam follow export oriented economies, same like China, she need oversea markets for growth and gaining capital not become an market.. Also recently, Vietnam receive quite decent amount of investment from Chinese-speaking countries (about $3billion from China in 2013) despite the riot in 2014 btw.
 
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Problem is that how to do balancing the trading between us, it is reported that Vietnam suffered huge deficit with China when China has devalueted Yuan recently.

That was a mild revaluation and Yuan has in fact picked up a little ever since. I wonder how hard revaluations other regional economies carried out have impacted your economy so far.

Vietnam has also a huge trade deficit with South Korea, as well, I guess. So singling out China might be unfair.

The way to achieve balance is to become stronger in manufacturing areas that you believe you have a niche. And then have target markets to export them.

Not much benefit really, maybe in 10-15 years times, it is possible---when Vietnam have better economic ground and industrial capacity but not for now. Vietnam follow export oriented economies, same like China, she need oversea markets for growth and gaining capital not become an market.. Also recently, Vietnam receive quite decent amount of investment from Chinese-speaking countries (about $3billion from China in 2013) despite the riot in 2014 btw.

Maybe an Economic Cooperation Agreement (ECA) would be more feasible then: that would protect domestic manufacturers against powerful foreign export industries but also open up foreign direct investment (real manufacturing investment) from China by further facilitating the rules and regulations.
 
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Maybe an Economic Cooperation Agreement would be more feasible then: that would protect domestic manufacturers against powerful foreign export industries but also open up foreign direct investment (real manufacturing investment) from China by further facilitating the rules and regulations.

Yeah, we also run trade deficit with S.Korea, mainly import high-end technology and S.Korea FDI firms import their country material to produced goods for exports and S.Korea have very protective policy. Also, South Korea in 2013 become our biggest investor in the past 20 years since 1993, they invested in 4000 project with total investment up to $45billion, it supposed to increase Samsung want to invest additional $ 4 billion in next 2 years not count other 4400 Korean business running in the country. This year also got FTA with S.Korea and before 2020, both govt aim to reach total trade of $70 billion from $30 billion since 2014 as S.Korea remove 98% tariff on our goods next 5 years and we supposed do the same for 85% of their products over next 15 years.

China also has been picked up to become 9th biggest investor since 2013 and Singapore become 2nd biggest investor, haha can you believe that?, but mostly in southern industrial park as joint venture between 2 countries

About that Economic Cooperation Agreement (ECA), i believe China (Guangdong) provinces and Vietnam northern terrain got 1 deals like that, maybe 1 additional ones with Guangzhou and you have RCEP later i think, so ECA in my opinion a bit late
 
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China remains biggest trade partner of Vietnam in 9 months: statistics
Published: 2015-9-29 13:02:31


China remained the biggest trade partner of Vietnam in the first nine months of 2015 with a total trade revenue of 49.3 billion US dollars, according to Vietnam' s General Statistics Office on Tuesday.

During the nine-month period, Vietnam is estimated to export some 12.5 billion US dollars worth of commodities to China, an increase of 12.5 percent year-on-year.

Meanwhile, Vietnam is likely to spend some 36.8 billion US dollars to import goods from the Chinese market, up 18.1 percent year-on-year, the statistics agency said in a report on social and economic situation in the nine months.

In the first three quarters of 2015, Vietnam is estimated to post some 245.2 billion US dollars in total trade revenue with international partners, said the agency.
 
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China remains biggest trade partner of Vietnam in 9 months: statistics
Published: 2015-9-29 13:02:31


China remained the biggest trade partner of Vietnam in the first nine months of 2015 with a total trade revenue of 49.3 billion US dollars, according to Vietnam' s General Statistics Office on Tuesday.

During the nine-month period, Vietnam is estimated to export some 12.5 billion US dollars worth of commodities to China, an increase of 12.5 percent year-on-year.

Meanwhile, Vietnam is likely to spend some 36.8 billion US dollars to import goods from the Chinese market, up 18.1 percent year-on-year, the statistics agency said in a report on social and economic situation in the nine months.

In the first three quarters of 2015, Vietnam is estimated to post some 245.2 billion US dollars in total trade revenue with international partners, said the agency.
China brand new machinery still have lower quality than US used machineries selling in VN, for example: CN new truck like Dongfeng still cant compare with US used truck bcz it use Engine Control ModuleTechnology .

More and more VNese will choose US used machineries to replace China new ones soon and help to reduce VN deficit with CN :)
 
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China brand new machinery still have lower quality than US used machineries selling in VN, for example: CN new truck like Dongfeng still cant compare with US used truck bcz it use Engine Control ModuleTechnology .

More and more VNese will choose US used machineries to replace China new ones soon and help to reduce VN deficit with CN :)

Then probably deficit with the US will grow. And in trade, the US is not known to care about other countries' feelings or problems. If they need to, they will most likely spy on you, bribe your officials, and, in extreme case, stage a coup.

Check their track record, they have all of these.

On quality--China has various truck companies with multitude engine configurations. What China has accomplished in terms of infrastructure development at home and overseas testifies that China's machinery can in fact works.

On complicated CNC units, @Martian2 will have the most updated info.

But, it is probably a matter of price the customer willing to pay, rather than the overall quality issue.
 
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