Vietnam PM seeks regional unity as China pushes maritime claims

[Snomannen]

Yes, a new treaty for the region. More talks less confrontations. You cannot trust the Chinese.

A wise man trusts no one.

 

[EastSea]

trust on humanity of people in the world, not on mental ill big boy.

 

[Minjitta]

Chinese are trying to spread their tentacles in every direction.

no problems, we (Japan, India, Vietnam, Indonesia) just needs to dismantle one tentacle at a time in all directions.

 

[Minjitta]

I agree on you. Thailand could crush Vietnam anyday.

On topic: It would be nice if everyone resolves the issue. Good that Vietnam PM seeks unity, Aquino should do the same, so that a possible conflict won't happen

Thailand got no balls

 

[Viet]

A wise man trusts no one.

No need to take my words personally, mein Freund. I mean Chinese politic sucks.

Nobody in SE Asia cares about Vietnam.... nobody even cared when Chinese coast guard attacked some Vietnamese fishing boats recently making Vietnamese cry

Not bad for an ermerging wannabe superpower, hongwu

 

[Snomannen]

No need to take my words personally, mein Freund. I mean Chinese politic sucks.

I didn't take it personally.

 

[Viet]

I didn't take it personally.

Good. If you are here in Germany and want to spy the German drones tech Euro Hawk, than you will be disappointed. The Germans want to dump the drones, because they are useless.

http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/eurohawk128.html

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Good. If you are here in Germany and want to spy the German drones tech Euro Hawk, than you will be disappointed. The Germans want to dump the drones, because they are useless.

"Euro Hawk": Von Anfang an auf Kollisionskurs | tagesschau.de

Don't lie, the drone doesn't have anti-collision feature and that's why it will not be certified for our air space. As a matter of fact, I don't see any use of drones here in Germany since we are not surrounded by any enemies ... I can't even think of any real enemy in the world.

I am indeed against any drones in my country since that could be used against us civilians.

 

[Soryu]

Yes, that's one main purpose why PRC or ROC always insisit of nine-dashline belong to China. "Crude Oil and Cargo are the blood of Asia" but sorry most ship to PRC, TaiWan, S.Korea, Japan specially important for China.


China never claim the water inside nine-dashline not international waters, of course the water of South of China Sea still safe for international ships, the Chinese just claim dispute islands controlled by foreign army belong to China, some foreign countries took China's islands in SOC when Chinese weak during 1960s-1970s and now will get them back to real lord. The islands controlled by Vietnamese threat China interests and maritime trade security.


U have understood how important the South of China Sea for China, so China won't leave these dispute islands alone, from now on China government and PLA force will play political diplomacy games with u, provide more pressures by foreign affairs and military actions. Compared with Vietnam, the China has enough TIME and enough MONEY to play games with ur government and country. PLA Army/Navy/Airforce (military expenditure just 2% of China GDP) == Vietnam whole 1 year GDP, it means indeed Vietnam weak enough.

Ur Vietnamese hope the Japan or U.S lend money to Vietnam importing new weapons to against Chinese ? It's just a Wet Dream, coz the economy relationships between U.S and China or Japan and China much stronger than with Vietnam (1 year trades with China >> 10x years trades with Vietnam), Seriously U.S and Japan government also poor they got fiscal crisis now.

2012 China PLA military expenditure > 100 billion $$ still seize 2% of China GDP, so how much cash u wish Vietnam could lend from U.S or Japan government ? About Russia, u think Vietnamese and Chinese today which one is more important for Russian foreign interests ?

You failed to fool everyone, just like other chinese guys again, cnleio.

_ The question in here: what's nine-dash line!? If China was still consider that space as international waters, why did China was continue attack other contry fishing-boat, cut Vietnamese exploration ship's cable !?
_ The video leak on internet that PRC officers was talking through radio to Vietnam Navy: "This is china's territorial waters". The scene was wide open sea, not near any Islands, so your argument was fail.

_ It's very clear that China PRC occupied illegal Paracel group by attack South Vietnam force at there in 1974.
_ In 1988, when Vietnam was still in economic crisis, embargoed and exhaust by Cambodia war, PRC take a good chance and attack Vietnam again, control a part of Spartly Islands group.
_ When USA retreat from Philippine, China saw another chance and occupied Mischief Reef in 1995, build a Garrison.
_ In 2012, China want do that again, they were not easy to building large structure in now, but was considered control Scarborough shoal.
_ In 2013, PRC, again, touch James shoal, come near Second Thomas ...

Their action was very clear, they want more, and more, non-stop with any country. "Peaceful Rise" was just cover. They continue made falsely accused on Vietnam or other contry to cover their action. What's big impudent.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Vietnam made very smart move by buying kilos and bastion[oniks/yakhont/brahmos] land based version.Jusr what are needed for smaller navy to deal with larger.Quiet subs and supersonic cruise missiles.

 

[cnleio]

You failed to fool everyone, just like other chinese guys again, cnleio.

_ The question in here: what's nine-dash line!? If China was still consider that space as international waters, why did China was continue attack other contry fishing-boat, cut Vietnamese exploration ship's cable !?
_ The video leak on internet that PRC officers was talking through radio to Vietnam Navy: "This is china's territorial waters". The scene was wide open sea, not near any Islands, so your argument was fail.

_ It's very clear that China PRC occupied illegal Paracel group by attack South Vietnam force at there in 1974.
_ In 1988, when Vietnam was still in economic crisis, embargoed and exhaust by Cambodia war, PRC take a good chance and attack Vietnam again, control a part of Spartly Islands group.
_ When USA retreat from Philippine, China saw another chance and occupied Mischief Reef in 1995, build a Garrison.
_ In 2012, China want do that again, they were not easy to building large structure in now, but was considered control Scarborough shoal.
_ In 2013, PRC, again, touch James shoal, come near Second Thomas ...

Their action was very clear, they want more, and more, non-stop with any country. "Peaceful Rise" was just cover. They continue made falsely accused on Vietnam or other contry to cover their action. What's big impudent.

The China government claim these islands including illegal controlled by Vietnam were the lands of China, i remeber the open seawater within 12 nautical miles around these dispute islands should be China's territorial waters(refer to UN's Law of the Sea),and exclusive economic zone is measured within 200 nautical miles outside the territorial sea.

Ur fish-boat entered 12 nautical miles of China island's territorial waters to illegal fishing, so China has the right to break them down. Ur oil-detect ship entered 200 nautical miles of China island's exclusive economic zone to illegal mining resources, so China has the right to cut off the cable. The China government insist of these disput islands(in South of China Sea) belong to China, when Vietnam's fish boat and oil-detect boat ship into above 12 & 200 nautical miles the China coast guard and Chinese patrol will stop u.

 

[cnleio]

Vietnam made very smart move by buying kilos and bastion[oniks/yakhont/brahmos] land based version.Jusr what are needed for smaller navy to deal with larger.Quiet subs and supersonic cruise missiles.

Yep, to import some submarines,anti-ship missile,S-300,multi-role fighter is smart for Vietnam. But like kilo and su-30 all were played by PLA several years ago the Chinese much familiar with these Russian weapons.

Main trouble for Vietnamese is not PLAN or PLAAF, indeed millions of PLA Army from the North. There's no Tibet Plateau and Himalaya, only hills in the sino-vietnamese border.

 

[Soryu]

The China government claim these islands including illegal controlled by Vietnam were the lands of China, i remeber the open seawater within 12 nautical miles around these dispute islands should be China's territorial waters(refer to UN's Law of the Sea),and exclusive economic zone is measured within 200 nautical miles outside the territorial sea.

Ur fish-boat entered 12 nautical miles of China island's territorial waters to illegal fishing, so China has the right to break them down. Ur oil-detect ship entered 200 nautical miles of China island's exclusive economic zone to illegal mining resources, so China has the right to cut off the cable. The China government insist of these disput islands(in South of China Sea) belong to China, when Vietnam's fish boat and oil-detect boat ship into above 12 & 200 nautical miles the China coast guard and Chinese patrol will stop u.

Again, you want twist everything, but you failed, again:

_ What's proven our fishing-boat enter your 12nm territorial waters!? Nothing.
_ What's map proven Paracel Islands belong China at before PRC take it illegal in 1974!? Nothing.
_ What's map proven Spartly Islands belong China at before PRC attack Vietnam force in 1988!? Nothing.
_ What's international waters are same space with EEZ!? Nothing like that.

_ You mentioned EEZ, and it's very clear, Vietnamese exploration ship was working in Vietnam's 200nm EEZ. But impudent PRC ship was cut Vietnamese cable in 2 time. PRC Government just said by itsefl: "We do that because Vietnamese enter U-shape line (draw by ourself)".
_ So your argument about territorial waters, international waters, EEZ, Vietnamese's threat in SCS were all failed.

 

[Soryu]

Yep, to import some submarines,anti-ship missile,S-300,multi-role fighter is smart for Vietnam. But like kilo and su-30 all were played by PLA several years ago the Chinese much familiar with these Russian weapons.

Main trouble for Vietnamese is not PLAN or PLAAF, indeed millions of PLA Army from the North. There's no Tibet Plateau and Himalaya, only hills in the sino-vietnamese border.

I know you guys want visit our homeland verymuch, We also want to embrace you when you come. But seem like your soldier was so busy with their keybroad, so we just waiting them so long.

P/S: "our embrace" will "very special" and PLA will remember it forever just like their elder was remember that.

 

[NiceGuy]

Yep, to import some submarines,anti-ship missile,S-300,multi-role fighter is smart for Vietnam. But like kilo and su-30 all were played by PLA several years ago the Chinese much familiar with these Russian weapons.

Main trouble for Vietnamese is not PLAN or PLAAF, indeed millions of PLA Army from the North. There's no Tibet Plateau and Himalaya, only hills in the sino-vietnamese border.

And we always use Russian weapons far more effectively than u.With Russian weapons,we successfully defeated mighty US and liberated the Soth VN when China keep crying like baby to see Taiwan embarcing Japan and US untill now.

Millions of poor trained and coward PLA troop near our north border is just a cheap.joke to us.l bet that those coward will surely run for their lives when facing with real bloody combat