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Nguyen Thi Buoi is an unhappy woman these days.
Her husband, Tieu Viet La, and her two sons are among the 12 fishermen from Binh Son district in Quang Ngai province arrested on 22 March by a Chinese fishing patrol for "infringing Chinese waters".
Mr La and the others say they were caught as they were sheltering from a looming monsoon near Woody Island, the largest in the Paracel archipelago, occupied by China in 1974 but also claimed by Vietnam.
Since his arrest, his family have received only one phone call from him, urging them to pay a "fine" of 180m dong ($ 9,500:£6,000) demanded by his captors.
"We don't have any money," Mrs Buoi says, tears running down her face. "So far, I have only managed to secure 40m dong."
In recent months the plight of the Quang Ngai fishermen has received huge coverage in Vietnam's state-run media.
The normally obedient press have not shied away from describing in great detail how Vietnamese fishermen have been arrested, fined and sometimes mistreated by Chinese border guards.
Nationalist sentiment
Government statistics say that in three first months of 2010 alone, 30 Vietnamese boats with more than 200 fishermen were captured in disputed areas in the South China Sea.
Hundreds more Vietnamese fishermen remain in captivity, not only by China but also by Malaysian and Indonesian crews.
Yet the focus stays on China, reflecting not only Vietnam's awareness of China's assertiveness in a sea area claimed by five countries but also growing nationalist sentiment among the Vietnamese population.


Internet forums in Vietnamese are inundated with calls to "stand up for our sovereignty" and to "face the threats from across the northern borders".
While the Vietnamese government maintains that it is committed to developing the traditional friendship and "strategic partnership" with China, Hanoi can no longer turn a blind eye to either the simmering anti-China mood or the need to protect its interests in the resource-rich South China Sea.
The meeting of leaders of South East Asian nations (Asean) in Hanoi offers a good opportunity to deal with both issues.
Vietnam has not concealed its intention to internationalise the South China Sea disputes in the face of China's increasing activities in the region.

The best Vietnam can hope for is to get Asean consensus on how to deal with an increasingly assertive China
Carlyle Thayer
Beijing imposes an annual unilateral fishing ban in the sea and has been despatching vessels to patrol disputed areas.
As host of the Asean summit, Vietnam is pushing hard to put the territorial disputes on the agenda to achieve a multilateral approach to the situation.
Hanoi is aware that this is a once-in-a-decade chance to promote matters of its own interests, before the chairmanship is transferred to Brunei in 2011.
A spokesman for the host country, Tran Ngoc An, went even further by saying that the summit this time would aim for a clear cut, more legally binding code of conduct in the South China Sea, to be signed with China in the future.
'Moderate assertiveness'
Observers, however, express doubt that such paper can be finalised soon.
"The best Vietnam can hope for is to get Asean consensus on how to deal with an increasingly assertive China with the aim of constraining China from taking unilateral actions," says Professor Carlyle Thayer, a veteran Vietnam watcher from the Australian Defence Force Academy.
"It is to moderate Chinese assertiveness, and to engage China in joint development of the South China Sea's resources."
But Ian Storey, editor of the Contemporary Southeast Asia journal in Singapore, still thinks it is a "step forward that Vietnam has put the South China Sea on the Asean summit agenda".
"The problem is that Asean has found it very difficult to achieve consensus on the South China Sea since its expansion in the mid-1990s," he says.
Consensus or not, by promoting the South China Sea issue at a large-scale regional event the Vietnamese government hopes to quash domestic accusations that it has been weak in dealings with China.
With only 10 months until the next Communist Party Congress, when the country's new leadership will be decided, party leaders know only too well that they cannot afford to ignore the internal spreading nationalist flames
BBC News - Vietnam puts Paracel row on summit agenda
 
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India ILLEGALLY occupies Myanmar Islands which it calls "Nicobar and Andaman". India has NO VALID CLAIM over them whatsoever, and has used the basterd British Illegal Imperialistic land theft to take them. It will revert back to Myanmar in good time (when Bharat reverts to 30+ serfdoms).

This BBC "news" doesn't understand "Vietnam's National sentiment"... :rofl: I can say for a fact that besides a few people, no such heavy sentiment exist. VN understands China very well, and China understands VN very well --> this is because they have been one unified countried for thousands of years. VN has gradually accepted the realities.

Now of course, a FAKE "nation" like Endia (which is at best a Union formed in 1947, of which NEVER EXISTED before that) doesn't possess a history of its own ----> SO HOW CAN IT EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLE'S LONG HISTORY??? :woot:
 
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These territorial disputes have happened everywhere throughout history. The only solution is to do have open borders and let the economies merge ala EU.
 
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India ILLEGALLY occupies Myanmar Islands which it calls "Nicobar and Andaman". India has NO VALID CLAIM over them whatsoever, and has used the basterd British Illegal Imperialistic land theft to take them. It will revert back to Myanmar in good time (when Bharat reverts to 30+ serfdoms).

This BBC "news" doesn't understand "Vietnam's National sentiment"... :rofl: I can say for a fact that besides a few people, no such heavy sentiment exist. VN understands China very well, and China understands VN very well --> this is because they have been one unified countried for thousands of years. VN has gradually accepted the realities.

Now of course, a FAKE "nation" like Endia (which is at best a Union formed in 1947, of which NEVER EXISTED before that) doesn't possess a history of its own ----> SO HOW CAN IT EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLE'S LONG HISTORY??? :woot:



no need to show ur frustration by using big fonts and red color.

BTW read updated rules using big fonts are not allowed and you can be banned for it.

Also no need to post troll.
 
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India ILLEGALLY occupies Myanmar Islands which it calls "Nicobar and Andaman". India has NO VALID CLAIM over them whatsoever, and has used the basterd British Illegal Imperialistic land theft to take them. It will revert back to Myanmar in good time (when Bharat reverts to 30+ serfdoms).

This BBC "news" doesn't understand "Vietnam's National sentiment"... :rofl: I can say for a fact that besides a few people, no such heavy sentiment exist. VN understands China very well, and China understands VN very well --> this is because they have been one unified countried for thousands of years. VN has gradually accepted the realities.
Haha. The Chinese chip in his brain is working again. Anything for their lord, China !! :rofl:
Now of course, a FAKE "nation" like Endia (which is at best a Union formed in 1947, of which NEVER EXISTED before that) doesn't possess a history of its own ----> SO HOW CAN IT EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLE'S LONG HISTORY??? :woot:

The Chinese made chip in his brain is working. Battery seems to be week. There are few spelling mistakes . :rofl:
 
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India ILLEGALLY occupies Myanmar Islands which it calls "Nicobar and Andaman". India has NO VALID CLAIM over them whatsoever, and has used the basterd British Illegal Imperialistic land theft to take them. It will revert back to Myanmar in good time (when Bharat reverts to 30+ serfdoms).

This BBC "news" doesn't understand "Vietnam's National sentiment"... :rofl: I can say for a fact that besides a few people, no such heavy sentiment exist. VN understands China very well, and China understands VN very well --> this is because they have been one unified countried for thousands of years. VN has gradually accepted the realities.


Now of course, a FAKE "nation" like Endia (which is at best a Union formed in 1947, of which NEVER EXISTED before that) doesn't possess a history of its own ----> SO HOW CAN IT EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLE'S LONG HISTORY??? :woot:


What is this???? You could say that normally!

There is no single Burmese in A&N so why India should bother about it? And so called 'fake nation' India was there for last 6000 years. The people of this land called Indians.
 
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Vietnam and India are always anti-China ally.

Both was pro-USSR in the cold war, now pro-USA. (Two-head snake)

I must correct you on your BIG MISTAKE. It is important to know the truth, in order to make good decisions.

(1) Viet Nam is NOT pro-USA. It's pro-ASIA, and looks up to China. At least the governments of CPC and CPV both understand this (even though you don't)

:cheers:
 
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whoa thats a surprising map a whole lot of territorial water ! chinese waters much closer to other countries than to china infact looking at the pic much of the claim is hardly near china and practically touching malaysia and so close to the phillippines how can they claim that much waters extending so far out and so near others ?
 
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whoa thats a surprising map a whole lot of territorial water ! chinese waters much closer to other countries than to china infact looking at the pic much of the claim is hardly near china and practically touching malaysia and so close to the phillippines how can they claim that much waters extending so far out and so near others ?

The president of the phillipines asked Deng Xiaoping:

"You know, the Nansha islands are very close to the Phillipines, I think they should be our territory."

Deng replied:

"The Phillipines are also very close to China."

The southeast asian barbarians stuck in the 19th century have always attempted to steal our land. Maybe we should learn from India's conquest of Sikkim and aggressive, illegal attacks on Pakistan in 1971 and 1999. The southeast asian countries have illegally abducted and imprisoned chinese citizens in our territorial waters. it is the shame of our navy and air force that these countries have not been encouraged to comply with relevant restrictions.
 
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Vietnam and India are always anti-China ally.

Both was pro-USSR in the cold war, now pro-USA. (Two-head snake)


Yes, Vietnam and India are old friends.

There is a name of a prominent road in India's national capital New Delhi after the great leader of Vietnam "Ho chi minh".
 
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