Vietnam Defence Forum

[Aqsuperman]

Meh, Viet you may want to consider to stop wrestling with the guy that extremely eager to smash the keyboard. Treat him like a dog, or a cute little puppy if you prefer it that way. After barking for a while with no reply, he will just wonder around looking for another place to throw out his awesome perception of the the world in his ideal dream Just hope that we aren't there.

Go back to idea of the thread, The second most popular SMG after the Uzi for Special Force and Police in Vietnam is the Pakistan-made PK-5. Common sight at Mobile Police Brigade or Counter Terrorist Units in important facilities and foreign embassy.

 

[Viet]

Meh, Viet you may want to consider to stop wrestling with the guy that extremely eager to smash the keyboard. Treat him like a dog, or a cute little puppy if you prefer it that way. After barking for a while with no reply, he will just wonder around looking for another place to throw out his awesome perception of the the world in his ideal dream Just hope that we aren't there.

Go back to idea of the thread, The second most popular SMG after the Uzi for Special Force and Police in Vietnam is the Pakistan-made PK-5. Common sight at Mobile Police Brigade or Counter Terrorist Units in important facilities and foreign embassy.

I notice the riot police and anti terror agents are not protected as it should be. they seriously need more stuffs to protect themselves against flying bullets and explosive grenades. well, as for the guy in question, I think we have no choice but need to deal with both good and bad guys from the coming superpower even they issue insults on daily basis for fun . on topic, NA Chairwoman Nguyen welcomes Zhang Dejiang, politburo member and chairman of the Standing Committee of the largest but most powerless parliament of the world

 

[Viet]

not only a new US president is elected, but new members of Congress, both House and Senate. Congrats to 37 year old Democrat Stephanie Murphy Ngoc-Dung as she makes history. the first viet-american women elected to US House, representing Florida (district 7). After the Sept. 11, 2001 attack, she served as a national security adviser in the U.S. defence ministry. for her election campaign, she received endorsements from both President Barack Obama, and Vice President Joe Biden.

 

[Carlosa]

Will Trump leave us to China’s mercy, frets Vietnam
http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/2044420/will-trump-leave-us-chinas-mercy-frets-vietnam

Donald Trump’s astonishing victory in the United States election will cause a massive rethink among foreign relations strategists in Hanoi, where a win by Hillary Clinton would have guaranteed a continuation of Vietnamese-friendly policies.

Vietnamese have followed these elections closely, underpinned by Washington’s rebalance to the region and acting as a counterweight to China and its regional expansionist policies, which are viewed as a strategic threat by the communists in Hanoi.

“Besides that, the Vietnamese are interested in the elections because there is a large Vietnamese-American community living inside the US,” one long-time observer, who declined to be named, said.

The authorities watched the agonisingly close results after Clinton seemed to start the count well and as favourite, only to see her grip slip, with Trump and the Republicans picking up a large chunk of votes from the disgruntled working classes across the United States.

At this US election there was much at stake for Vietnam, which has finally rebuilt its diplomatic ties with the US, more than 40 years after the Vietnam War ended.

A continuation of the status quo, defined by outgoing President Barak Obama, with Hillary Clinton in charge would be seen as sensible by Hanoi, where the controversial trade deal – the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) – has found enthusiastic support.

Relations were normalised in 2000, when then president Bill Clinton made an historic trip to Hanoi. But trade sanctions, particularly on weapons, remained.

Vietnamese students take a selfie with a paper model of the US Republican presidential candidate during an election watch event at the US embassy in Hanoi. Photo: AFP

The last of those sanctions were lifted just five months ago, which enabled Vietnam’s military access to sophisticated arms, and designed to improve defence cooperation between the two countries, including US access to Vietnam’s deepwater port at Cam Ranh Bay.

A Trump victory would add confusion to this equation. His knowledge of Vietnam and Southeast Asia was found wanting during the campaign and his disparaging remarks about Senator John McCain ruffled feathers here, where he was shot down and held as a PoW.

Meanwhile, Hillary was widely seen as the “continuation candidate” in regards to policies established by Obama, a fellow Democrat.

“Hillary is remembered here for voicing, for the first time, against Chinese ambitions over the South China Sea at a regional security forum in Hanoi in July 2012. I think Vietnamese wish to see Hillary elected new US president,” the government observer said.

“Trump for his part is always seen in the same ranks with Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte by the Vietnamese.”

On the streets of the southern capital of Ho Chi Minh City, public opinion was more divided.

“Trump’s strong stance against China made him popular with many Vietnamese,” said one while a another added, “everyone I know is repulsed by Trump. Some are big for Clinton, others are more tepid, some think both are terrible.”

 

[AViet]

A typical Western article as usual, trying to portray Vietnam and Vietnamese as an anti-China homogeneous group. Even on this forum, the opinions from Vietnamese and ethnic oversea Vietnamese are already very different about China.

Regarding Donald Trump, majority of Vietnamese do not care about America election, despite the hype from media. Trump or Clinton are no different. And in fact, we have almost no connection to the US in daily life. No investment, no technology, no imports, no anything (from my view as a North Vietnamese).

The US may be important to Vietnamese exporters and oversea Vietnamese (and their relatives in Vietnam, most living in the South), but for average citizens, no.

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam disciplines over 40 officers after 4 military aircraft crashes in 2016
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1016930.shtml
Over 40 officers, including two general officers, have been disciplined following four military aircraft crashes in Vietnam so far in 2016, said Nguyen Minh Hoang, Deputy Political Commissar of Vietnam's Military Zone 7 on Wednesday.

Hoang made the remark at a discussion held during the ongoing second session of Vietnam's 14th National Assembly in capital Hanoi on Wednesday, reported local Tuoi Tre (Youth) online newspaper.

So far in 2016, there have been four military aircraft crashes in Vietnam, including that of Su-MK2 jet fighter in waters off central Nghe An province in mid-June, CASA aircraft in the Beibu Gulf in mid-June, training aircraft L39 in central Phu Yen province and chopper EC 130T2 in southern Ba Ria-Vung Tau province in mid-October.

Vietnamese Ministry of Defense attributed the incidents to problems in flight safety leadership and instruction, said Hoang, adding that flight safety examination remained simple and untimely.

In addition, the ministry said rescue equipments are not specialized while the work of pilot management and training is loose.

The ministry is planning to send officers for overseas training and increase purchase of flight safety control equipments and tools, said Hoang.

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam to scrap nuclear plant construction plans
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/1131048/vietnam-to-scrap-nuclear-plant-construction-plans

HANOI - The Vietnamese government has decided to scrap plans to build nuclear power plants with Japanese and Russian assistance, a Vietnam Electricity official said on Wednesday.

The decision to withdraw the contracts to build the nuclear power reactors in Ninh Thuan province will be a blow to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's administration, which sees Japan's export of nuclear power technology as a pillar of his economic growth strategy.

The country's ruling Communist Party instructed government authorities in October to revise the plans due to tight state finances, party and government sources said earlier.

The government plans to submit a resolution to the National Assembly on Thursday requesting the plans be put off, according to state-run media.

The country's policy of promoting nuclear power, however, remains unchanged, according to the Vietnam Electricity official.

The National Assembly approved in 2009 the plans to build two nuclear power reactors each at two plants in Ninh Thuan province, central Vietnam.

Japan was awarded contracts to build the two reactors at the Ninh Thuan 2 Nuclear Power Plant, while Russia was scheduled to build the other two at the Ninh Thuan 1 Nuclear Power Plant.

The first plant was originally slated to become operational in 2020 but was subsequently delayed until 2028, followed by 2029 for the second plant.

 

[Viet]

Vietnam to scrap nuclear plant construction plans
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/1131048/vietnam-to-scrap-nuclear-plant-construction-plans

HANOI - The Vietnamese government has decided to scrap plans to build nuclear power plants with Japanese and Russian assistance, a Vietnam Electricity official said on Wednesday.

The decision to withdraw the contracts to build the nuclear power reactors in Ninh Thuan province will be a blow to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's administration, which sees Japan's export of nuclear power technology as a pillar of his economic growth strategy.

The country's ruling Communist Party instructed government authorities in October to revise the plans due to tight state finances, party and government sources said earlier.

The government plans to submit a resolution to the National Assembly on Thursday requesting the plans be put off, according to state-run media.

The country's policy of promoting nuclear power, however, remains unchanged, according to the Vietnam Electricity official.

The National Assembly approved in 2009 the plans to build two nuclear power reactors each at two plants in Ninh Thuan province, central Vietnam.

Japan was awarded contracts to build the two reactors at the Ninh Thuan 2 Nuclear Power Plant, while Russia was scheduled to build the other two at the Ninh Thuan 1 Nuclear Power Plant.

The first plant was originally slated to become operational in 2020 but was subsequently delayed until 2028, followed by 2029 for the second plant.

I think this news does not reflect the reality. No Vietnam media post news from the government that wants to cancel nuclear plants completely. I think it will be again a delay because of government's lack of money. A lot of investment have been made, from site clearance to infrastructure building to crew training. it makes economically politically no sense to scrap all. In addition we would upset our partners America, Russia, Japan and Korea.

Besides we should maintain a nuclear option. In case someone runs amok threatening us with nuclear weapon.

 

[Carlosa]

I think this news does not reflect the reality. No Vietnam media post news from the government that wants to cancel nuclear plants completely. I think it will be again a delay because of government's lack of money. A lot of investment have been made, from site clearance to infrastructure building to crew training. it makes economically politically no sense to scrap all. In addition we would upset our partners America, Russia, Japan and Korea.

Besides we should maintain a nuclear option. In case someone runs amok threatening us with nuclear weapon.

This news is very real, here is an article from Vietnamese media that also gives more details, yes, its probably a delay, but its a big delay.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/sc...roposes-nuclear-power-plant-cancellation.html

Government proposes nuclear power plant cancellation

The Vietnamese government has decided to cancel the Ninh Thuan Nuclear Power Plant project as the country will not face a power shortage as previously predicted, while the plant would face difficulties competing with other power sources, an official said.

Chairman of the Electricity of Vietnam, Duong Quang Thanh, said that the government will propose the cancellation of the project to the National Assembly on November 10.

Talking with the media on the sidelines of a NA meeting on Wednesday, Chairman of the Electricity of Vietnam, Duong Quang Thanh, said that the government will propose the cancellation of the project to the National Assembly on Thursday.

No nuclear power plant has been included the new power plan which runs until 2030 which has just been approved by the prime minister, Thanh confirmed.

The price of nuclear power is now much more expensive than that of other sources such as coal or oil so a nuclear power plant will not be able to compete with other options, Thanh explained.

Thanh also said that the power growth rate in a recent survey is much lower than when done in 2009 when the project was proposed.

"The latest survey predicted that power growth rate will be at 11% in the 2016-2020 period and fall to 7-8% in the 2021-2030 period. So there will be no power shortage in the country in the near future," he confirmed.

Ninh Thuan Nuclear Power Plant project was approved in late 2009 with estimated investment of USD 10 billion, including two plants with a combined capacity of 4,000 megawatts, meeting 3-4 percent of the country’s total electricity demand.

Construction on the first plant was originally planned to start in 2014 with technical assistance from Russia’s state nuclear firm Rosatom. A Japanese consortium was also picked to develop the second plant.

But following the nuclear disaster in Japan’s Fukushima in 2011, the government ordered agencies to thoroughly review safety measures and last year announced that it would delay work on the first plant until 2020.

Dtinews

 

[Viet]

This news is very real, here is an article from Vietnamese media that also gives more details:

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/sc...roposes-nuclear-power-plant-cancellation.html


Dtinews

the Parliament will have the last say. it repeatedly torpedoes government plans. the Parliament once rejected the highspeed rail because it was too expensive, now the government proposes a new plan with cheaper variant with expanded time frame. Also the majority of Parliament recently rejects giving the government huge rooms to make huge debts, only allowed a much lower debt ceiling.

and so on and so on. the government plans to massively increase the number of coal powered plants, now makes U-turn decreasing the number coal plants and increase the number of solar and wind power plants.

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam reveals causes of this year’s military aircraft crashes

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/society/166744/social-news-10-11.html

Vietnam has announced the reasons behind three out of four military aircraft crashes occurring earlier this year, with many individuals responsible sternly sanctioned.

During a meeting of the National Assembly delegate in Ho Chi Minh City on November 9, Major General Nguyen Minh Hoang, an official from the Ministry of National Defense publicized the causes of the military aircraft accidents.

Regarding the first tragedy, Russian-made fighter jet Su30-MK2 fell down during a training session off the central coastline on the morning of June 14, with one pilot brought to safety and the other found dead a few days later.

The black box was damaged by the crash, Maj. Gen. Hoang stated, adding that what is left of the device has been sent to Russia for a check.

From the subjective perspective, the two pilots did not eject from the plane simultaneously, resulting in the death of one of them, the military official said.

Coast guard aircraft CASA-212 8983 carrying nine crew members got into an accident on June 16 while looking for the missing victim, who was later confirmed dead, of the Su30-MK2, killing all people aboard.

According to Maj. Gen. Hoang, Colonel Le Kiem Toan, captain of the rescue plane, decided to lower altitude after spotting a strange object in the middle of the ocean near the Gulf of Tokin.

The aircraft touched the water surface due to instability caused by bad weather conditions, resulting in the fatal crash, he continued, adding that the black box is being examined by foreign experts.

With regard to the crash of military training plane L-39 in the south-central province of Phu Yen on August 26, the aircraft experienced an engine breakdown shortly after taking off.

The pilot tried to steer the plane out of a residential area and lost his chance of survival after being unable to eject.

The reason behind the EC 130 T2 helicopter tragedy in the southern province of Ba Ria-Vung Tau on October 18, which killed an instructor and two trainees, remains unclear, Hoang said.

As the chopper was a commercial aircraft, the military has been working with the Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam to determine the cause, the official elaborated.

The accidents primarily stemmed from the incompetent management of flight safety, Maj. Gen. Hoang asserted, adding that over 40 officers, of whom two were among the general ranks, from several military units and schools had been penalized.

Another reason is the lack of synchronization in rescue missions and linked to a limited number of specialized rescue aircraft.

The management and training of pilots in the country are still under par, the military official continued.

Following the penalization, a thorough inspection will be carried out of the quality of aircraft and of military units and academies.

For a long-term solution, pilots will be trained overseas and certain measures will be developed to repair and upgrade airplanes in the country, the major general said.

The Ministry of National Defense will also ask the State and Party to purchase new and modern military aircraft in the near future.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/vietnam-defence-forum.211882/page-592#ixzz4PbGQ8efa

 

[GS Zhou]

In case someone runs amok threatening us with nuclear weapon.

calm down. No one will threaten Vietnam with nuclear weapons:
- For countries with nuclear weapons, they usually also have a much stronger conventional military forces than Vietnam. So why using nuclear weapons to against Vietnam?

- For countries with No nuclear weapons, how could they use nuclear weapons to against Vietnam?

 

[Viet]

A typical Western article as usual, trying to portray Vietnam and Vietnamese as an anti-China homogeneous group. Even on this forum, the opinions from Vietnamese and ethnic oversea Vietnamese are already very different about China.

Regarding Donald Trump, majority of Vietnamese do not care about America election, despite the hype from media. Trump or Clinton are no different. And in fact, we have almost no connection to the US in daily life. No investment, no technology, no imports, no anything (from my view as a North Vietnamese).

The US may be important to Vietnamese exporters and oversea Vietnamese (and their relatives in Vietnam, most living in the South), but for average citizens, no.

and vietnamese importers and exporters have no contact to common folks? no to northerner like you?

let see: last year 2015, the bilateral trades US-Vietnam stood at about $45b, this year 2016 will be about $53b. an increase of 16%. these goods in billion of dollars are never seen in Hanoi? should TPP become reality (well, right now it is not realistic), our trades with America would surpass those of China in the near future.

 

[Viet]

calm down. No one will threaten Vietnam with nuclear weapons:
- For countries with nuclear weapons, they usually also have a much stronger conventional military forces than Vietnam. So why using nuclear weapons to against Vietnam?

- For countries with No nuclear weapons, how could they use nuclear weapons to against Vietnam?

at the end phase of the war, both France and America considered nuclear weapons to secure the victory. I think it is not a secret, both have much more powerful conventional armed forces. I don´t know whether China had ever considered nuclear weapon in the war against Vietnam.

 

[AViet]

and vietnamese importers and exporters have no contact to common folks? no to northerner like you?

let see: last year 2015, the bilateral trades US-Vietnam stood at about $45b, this year 2016 will be about $53b. an increase of 16%. these goods in billion of dollars are never seen in Hanoi? should TPP become reality (well, right now it is not realistic), our trades with America would surpass those of China in the near future.

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Viet, I like your patriotic attitude. However, possibly you have little connection with the real situation in Vietnam.Therefore, sometimes I feel you conclude a problem too soon based on limited and bias information from the Internet.

This forum is just for fun and for people to say what they cannot say in the real life. Do not be too emotional and take everything on this forum seriously. Even the information with links can be fake, let alone what people say here.