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A Vietnamese NC-212i with Indonesia tail flag. The first plane should arrive by June or so.
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A Vietnamese NC-212i with Indonesia tail flag. The first plane should arrive by June or so.
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Sertification for autopilot and Navigation software by Airbus led the project stalled for a year
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I don’t understand why we don’t ask Airbus for licensing production? we can’t progress if just relying on imports.A Vietnamese NC-212i with Indonesia tail flag. The first plane should arrive by June or so.
Sure, assembling aircraft will be a thing, we never do before, but if we can start from somewhere, that will be a great thing.
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Former foe to host visit by first American aircraft carrier since the war
The USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier—seen here in January in a U.S. Navy photo—is soon set to visit Vietnam, a former foe now embracing the U.S. as a counterbalance to China. MASS COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST 2ND CLASS SEAN M. CASTELLANO
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Jake Maxwell Watts
March 2, 2018 8:00 a.m. ET
ABOARD THE USS CARL VINSON—A U.S. aircraft carrier will soon visit Vietnam, marking the highest point in the U.S.-Vietnam relationship in decades and a rare win for Washington as China expands its competing economic and military influence elsewhere in Southeast Asia.
Communist Vietnam is set to host the largest U.S. military presence on its soil since the 1970s when the USS Carl Vinson arrives in the coming days, the first postwar visit by a U.S. aircraft carrier.
The visit, arranged after a meeting in Vietnam between Presidents Donald Trump and Tran Dai Quang in November, signals their concern about China’s presence in the South China Sea, a sea lane where Beijing has built artificial islands with runways and missile shelters.
Attempts to resolve competing claims to the waterway through diplomacy and international law have been eroded by China’s warming relations with some countries. Most notable among those is the Philippines, which under President Rodrigo Duterte has set aside its dispute and befriended Beijing, winning billions of dollars in investment commitments and bruising its alliance with the U.S.
U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis, left, met Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang at the presidential palace in Hanoi in January. PHOTO: HOANG DINH NAM/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
But Vietnam, which fought a war with China in 1979 and has a 2,000-mile coastline along the South China Sea, has sought to improve ties with Washington. The U.S. lifted a decades-old embargo on arms sales to Vietnam in late 2016 and last year donated a Coast Guard ship to Hanoi, which has asked for 18.
Among other gestures of friendship, Washington has channeled funds into removal of wartime toxins, while Vietnam has welcomed American warships to a refurbished naval base used by U.S. forces during the Vietnam War.
Economic ties are flourishing, with two-way trade doubling in five years to more than $50 billion in 2017, according to data from both governments. The countries announced $12 billion in commercial agreements when Mr. Trump visited in November.
“The visit gives Vietnam a hedge against China at a time when Beijing is assertive in pressing its claims in the South China Sea,” said Murray Hiebert, a Southeast Asia expert at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Vietnam and the U.S. aren’t an obvious pairing. The ideology of the ruling Communist Party clashes with Washington’s embrace of capitalism, and Hanoi routinely imprisons its critics. In February, the State Department criticized the jailing of two political activists.
Vietnamese relations with China, meanwhile, have been strained. Anti-China riots rocked Vietnam in 2014 after Beijing moved an oil rig into disputed waters.
Several Southeast Asian countries share maritime disputes with China, which claims virtually the entire South China Sea. In the past year, China built more infrastructure on artificial islands in the disputed waters, including tunnels and radar installations, adding to runway and missile installations it completed earlier.
Vietnamese honor guards in navy uniforms march in Hanoi in 2016. PHOTO: KHAM/AFP/GETTY IMAGES
Vietnam has sought and failed to use regional forums like a biannual gathering of Southeast Asian leaders to pressure Beijing, one reason it has worked to upgrade relations with the U.S., said Carlyle Thayer, emeritus professor at the Australian Defence Force Academy in Canberra.
Hanoi’s foreign ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment. Tran Cong Truc, a former official who consults for the Vietnamese government on defense issues, said the Carl Vinson’s visit is part of a broader policy in Vietnam to improve relations with all countries, especially large powers.
Washington’s relationships in Southeast Asia, meanwhile, are being tested as China expands its economic ties with smaller states such as Cambodia, Myanmar and the Philippines—often through promises of infrastructure loans.
The Trump administration’s “America First” approach has also shaken some U.S. relationships in Asia. On taking office, Mr. Trump took the U.S. out of a Pacific trade pact that was seen as a counter to China’s economic presence, and in which Vietnam stood to become one of the greatest beneficiaries.
In a policy document published in December, the administration sketched a new national-security strategy that depicts the world as one of heightened rivalries and potentially dangerous competition, especially from China.
That stance has further put Asian partners who are reluctant to choose sides on edge. “I think more than in any region, the sense of great power rivalry is pronounced in Southeast Asia,” said Huong Le Thu, senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.
For the past two weeks, the Carl Vinson has steamed through the South China Sea, making a port call in Manila and welcoming media and officials on board to demonstrate U.S. commitment. The carrier has about 4,500 personnel and 1,500 on accompanying escorts, officials said.
Rear Adm. John Fuller, commander of the carrier strike group, said the Navy is committed to a role as a relationship-builder, through port visits and joint exercises. “It’s what we do as the United States Navy,” he said.
Write to Jake Maxwell Watts at jake.watts@wsj.com
The USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier—seen here in January in a U.S. Navy photo—is soon set to visit Vietnam, a former foe now embracing the U.S. as a counterbalance to China. MASS COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST 2ND CLASS SEAN M. CASTELLANO
By
Jake Maxwell Watts
March 2, 2018 8:00 a.m. ET
ABOARD THE USS CARL VINSON—A U.S. aircraft carrier will soon visit Vietnam, marking the highest point in the U.S.-Vietnam relationship in decades and a rare win for Washington as China expands its competing economic and military influence elsewhere in Southeast Asia.
Communist Vietnam is set to host the largest U.S. military presence on its soil since the 1970s when the USS Carl Vinson arrives in the coming days, the first postwar visit by a U.S. aircraft carrier.
The visit, arranged after a meeting in Vietnam between Presidents Donald Trump and Tran Dai Quang in November, signals their concern about China’s presence in the South China Sea, a sea lane where Beijing has built artificial islands with runways and missile shelters.
Attempts to resolve competing claims to the waterway through diplomacy and international law have been eroded by China’s warming relations with some countries. Most notable among those is the Philippines, which under President Rodrigo Duterte has set aside its dispute and befriended Beijing, winning billions of dollars in investment commitments and bruising its alliance with the U.S.
U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis, left, met Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang at the presidential palace in Hanoi in January. PHOTO: HOANG DINH NAM/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
But Vietnam, which fought a war with China in 1979 and has a 2,000-mile coastline along the South China Sea, has sought to improve ties with Washington. The U.S. lifted a decades-old embargo on arms sales to Vietnam in late 2016 and last year donated a Coast Guard ship to Hanoi, which has asked for 18.
Among other gestures of friendship, Washington has channeled funds into removal of wartime toxins, while Vietnam has welcomed American warships to a refurbished naval base used by U.S. forces during the Vietnam War.
Economic ties are flourishing, with two-way trade doubling in five years to more than $50 billion in 2017, according to data from both governments. The countries announced $12 billion in commercial agreements when Mr. Trump visited in November.
“The visit gives Vietnam a hedge against China at a time when Beijing is assertive in pressing its claims in the South China Sea,” said Murray Hiebert, a Southeast Asia expert at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Vietnam and the U.S. aren’t an obvious pairing. The ideology of the ruling Communist Party clashes with Washington’s embrace of capitalism, and Hanoi routinely imprisons its critics. In February, the State Department criticized the jailing of two political activists.
Vietnamese relations with China, meanwhile, have been strained. Anti-China riots rocked Vietnam in 2014 after Beijing moved an oil rig into disputed waters.
Several Southeast Asian countries share maritime disputes with China, which claims virtually the entire South China Sea. In the past year, China built more infrastructure on artificial islands in the disputed waters, including tunnels and radar installations, adding to runway and missile installations it completed earlier.
Vietnamese honor guards in navy uniforms march in Hanoi in 2016. PHOTO: KHAM/AFP/GETTY IMAGES
Vietnam has sought and failed to use regional forums like a biannual gathering of Southeast Asian leaders to pressure Beijing, one reason it has worked to upgrade relations with the U.S., said Carlyle Thayer, emeritus professor at the Australian Defence Force Academy in Canberra.
Hanoi’s foreign ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment. Tran Cong Truc, a former official who consults for the Vietnamese government on defense issues, said the Carl Vinson’s visit is part of a broader policy in Vietnam to improve relations with all countries, especially large powers.
Washington’s relationships in Southeast Asia, meanwhile, are being tested as China expands its economic ties with smaller states such as Cambodia, Myanmar and the Philippines—often through promises of infrastructure loans.
The Trump administration’s “America First” approach has also shaken some U.S. relationships in Asia. On taking office, Mr. Trump took the U.S. out of a Pacific trade pact that was seen as a counter to China’s economic presence, and in which Vietnam stood to become one of the greatest beneficiaries.
In a policy document published in December, the administration sketched a new national-security strategy that depicts the world as one of heightened rivalries and potentially dangerous competition, especially from China.
That stance has further put Asian partners who are reluctant to choose sides on edge. “I think more than in any region, the sense of great power rivalry is pronounced in Southeast Asia,” said Huong Le Thu, senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.
For the past two weeks, the Carl Vinson has steamed through the South China Sea, making a port call in Manila and welcoming media and officials on board to demonstrate U.S. commitment. The carrier has about 4,500 personnel and 1,500 on accompanying escorts, officials said.
Rear Adm. John Fuller, commander of the carrier strike group, said the Navy is committed to a role as a relationship-builder, through port visits and joint exercises. “It’s what we do as the United States Navy,” he said.
Write to Jake Maxwell Watts at jake.watts@wsj.com
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Bombarding targets by EXTRA land attack missiles, assisted by UAV Orbiter-2 drone
there are new longe range and high endurance drone and new advanced version of attack missiles from the Israelis. I wonder if we can ever get the technology and produce similar stuffs by ourselves.
there are new longe range and high endurance drone and new advanced version of attack missiles from the Israelis. I wonder if we can ever get the technology and produce similar stuffs by ourselves.
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Viet, I have few questions about the Coastal Missile Defence.
Why EXTRA is used as a coastal rocket complex instead of its primar role - MLRS? This missile is definitely for a high-precision elimination of ground targets, but using this one for striking ships... seems strange.
Is it approximately known the structure of coastal missile brigades (679th, 680s and 681st)?
Thank you in advance!
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This would be another unique day in Vietnam - US relation after the visit of President Bill Clinton back in 1995. A US aircaft carrier is now 5 km from Danang, one of the fiercest battle grounds back in the Vietnam War, or Anti - US resistance conflict in pur language. Well, shiet change fast these days so hod fast to your seat !!! More picures would be coming soon when the vessel receive the Vietnam delegation on board.
Well EXTRA is a more like a multipurpose tool, VN is suppose to use it to neutralize ground asset but slow transport and landing ship would be prime targets as well. To tackle heavili armed warship, dedicate anti - ship missile should take over. Oh and EXTRA is not deployed in a very wide scale, Coastal Defense Units tend to deploy a combination of howitzer/gun (76mm and 85mm) and Soviet era missiles (P-5 and P-15). There are new addditions over the years as well with P-800 and possibly BAl KH-35.
Viet, I have few questions about the Coastal Missile Defence.
Why EXTRA is used as a coastal rocket complex instead of its primar role - MLRS? This missile is definitely for a high-precision elimination of ground targets, but using this one for striking ships... seems strange.
Is it approximately known the structure of coastal missile brigades (679th, 680s and 681st)?
Thank you in advance!
Well EXTRA is a more like a multipurpose tool, VN is suppose to use it to neutralize ground asset but slow transport and landing ship would be prime targets as well. To tackle heavili armed warship, dedicate anti - ship missile should take over. Oh and EXTRA is not deployed in a very wide scale, Coastal Defense Units tend to deploy a combination of howitzer/gun (76mm and 85mm) and Soviet era missiles (P-5 and P-15). There are new addditions over the years as well with P-800 and possibly BAl KH-35.
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As apsupermann points out, Extra is a multipurpose missile that can attack targets that move as well as targets that don’t move. You know there is a great military power, if I recall it is Malaysia, that occupies lots of other people territories in the South China Sea, claiming the whole sea region as ancient lands. Peaceful rise bla bla.Viet, I have few questions about the Coastal Missile Defence.
Why EXTRA is used as a coastal rocket complex instead of its primar role - MLRS? This missile is definitely for a high-precision elimination of ground targets, but using this one for striking ships... seems strange.
Is it approximately known the structure of coastal missile brigades (679th, 680s and 681st)?
Thank you in advance!
Extra missiles can bring destruction to the weaponized islands, destroying the runways, before the Malays can launch aircraft to attack our territories.
Extra costs a bit more, but has longer range than MLRS, more precise, more destructive.
As for the size and structure of missile brigade, I have no clue. You can place a bet that although lack of funds Vietnam coastal defense is multilayered equipped not only by Extra missile batteries.
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