Vietnam celebrate the overall assembly the 6th domestic Molniya missile boat

[Beast]

And Vietnam now is also much better prepared than at the time of the war.

Do you think only china has UAV'S? Vietnam also have them.

Vietnam do not have AWACS, vietnam lacks high speed relay capabilities like satelite asset to allow drone have real time data and photo updates.

Your AWACS can't get close enough for that, I don't think you understand the target size than an AWACS can detect at that range.

I told you the SU-30 will know your location from your radar emissions, will give the location to the missile, mid course update via data link to the missile until final phase. What do you don't understand about that?

Yes, my AWACS can do that. And your huge SU-30MKK once up the sky will be under PLAAF AWACS constant surveilance and Su-30MKK cant guide missile to 300km. You are just talking rubbish.

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam do not have AWACS, vietnam lacks high speed relay capabilities like satelite asset to allow drone have real time data and photo updates.

Sorry to disappoint you but vn has high speed relay capabilities via satellites.

AWACS will be ordered next year.

 

[Beast]

Sorry to disappoint you but vn has high speed relay capabilities via satellites.

Are you mixing up internet data with military secure data one?

AWACS will be ordered next year.

That means tomorrow I can wiped you out?

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam do not have AWACS, vietnam lacks high speed relay capabilities like satelite asset to allow drone have real time data and photo updates.



Yes, my AWACS can do that. And your huge SU-30MKK once up the sky will be under PLAAF AWACS constant surveilance and Su-30MKK cant guide missile to 300km. You are just talking rubbish.

If you think your AWACS can do that, then you are talking rubbish man.

The SU-30MK2 not MKK, will have your position because of your emissions and can guide that type of missile long enough, which is not 300 km by the way, you forget that that missile is designed for AWACS killing and using a SU-30 type of jet.

 

[BoQ77]

Sorry to disappoint you but vn has high speed relay capabilities via satellites.

AWACS will be ordered next year.

C-295 with ELTA system radars ?
Actually, Vietnam almost get C-295 transport version,
And Vietnam get ELTA system radars.

But not a combination of two above.

to become to this

 

[Carlosa]

Are you mixing up internet data with military secure data one?




That means tomorrow I can wiped you out?

Enjoy and now go to sleep like a happy boy, bye bye.

C-295 with ELTA system radars ?

Most likely, almost for sure.

 

[William Hung]

Interception range is 221km, latest HQ-9

No, that max range is for big targets like the MH317 only. Against fighter jets, it's closer.

Anyway, intercepting a fighter with the HHQ-9 is very hard. The fighter doesnt need to stay around for long, just enough time needed to launch the silo.

The HHQ-9 sam is huge and easy for the fighter to detect early. The fighter can fly low beyond the horizon to disappear from the 052D's radar.

Truth but provided PLANAF dont send any fighter to intercept Vietnams fighter plane. We have AWACS to keep large area coverage 24 hrs
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Then we have tanker to keep our fighter enough legged.
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Vietnam do not possess stealth missile boat. Those missile boat even at 400-500km away will still be detected. Our MPA and drone will be deploy 24hrs to iden those suspected ships.
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Once those ships are detected, no way they can get near our CV-16 without eating YJ-18 ASM or face J-15 wrath launch from carriers. Those SU-30MKK are huge fighter and no stealth features. VPAF Su-30MKK detection will be easy meat for our AWACS.

Yes, the only way to detect them is through air bourne radar. But the SCS is so big you would need lots of drones, MPAs, tankers, etc. Then you would need plenty of fighters to escort those aircrafts. Do this 24/7 is very expensive and hard work.

All this just to protect the surface fleet from a small cheap FAC.

 

[Beast]

If you think your AWACS can do that, then you are talking rubbish man.

AWACS is king in modern aerial warfare. Lack one and you are doomed.

The SU-30MK2 not MKK, will have your position because of your emissions and can guide that type of missile long enough, which is not 300 km by the way, you forget that that missile is design for AWACS killing and using a SU-30 type of jet.

Even the MK2 has no such capabilties to guide missile to such range like 300km unless you have an AWACS.

 

[Carlosa]

Have you checked it in the link I've given you? just google Libgen





I charge 50 cent per post.



We've already discussed this... getting the Arrow system and joining the US regional BMD system is the only way to go.

Yes of course, but that will take some time. Its unlikely that china will attack vn territory at the outset of a war, it would be too much of an aggression and put everybody against them, starting with USA. Once a war starts, vn will prepare itself for such type of attacks, they are not going to be seating ducks like at Pearl Harbor.

 

[Beast]

No, that max range is for big targets like the MH317 only. Against fighter jets, it's closer.

Anyway, intercepting a fighter with the HHQ-9 is very hard. The fighter doesnt need to stay around for long, just enough time needed to launch the silo.

The HHQ-9 sam is huge and easy for the fighter to detect early. The fighter can fly low beyond the horizon to disappear from the 052D's radar.




Yes, the only way to detect them is through air bourne radar. But the SCS is so big you would need lots of drones, MPAs, tankers, etc. Then you would need plenty of fighters to escort those aircrafts. Do this 24/7 is very expensive and hard work.

All this just to protect the surface fleet from a small cheap FAC.

Are you talking nonsense? I think you are mixing HQ-9/ S-300 missile with oldies SA-75 SAM?

China is called the World factory for a reason. Saudi bought Our wing loong UCAV for 1 million each. And that is export price. PLAAF and PLANAF will get it at cost price only.

 

[Carlosa]

AWACS is king in modern aerial warfare. Lack one and you are doomed.



Even the MK2 has no such capabilties to guide missile to such range like 300km unless you have an AWACS.

Your king is not as well endowed as you think, you give it far more capability that it has and chinese awacs are not very good anyway, they are just starting out.

Tell the Russians what the novator missile can't do. I think they know it better than you.

 

[BoQ77]

Yes of course, but that will take some time. Its unlikely that china will attack vn territory at the outset of a war, it would be too much of an aggression and put everybody against them, starting with USA. Once a war starts, vn will prepare itself for such type of attacks, they are not going to be seating ducks like at Pearl Harbor.

The chance to be attacked by Chinese aircrafts into Vietnam is low.
China has limit aerial refueling ability compare to USA during Vietnam War. So it's not a problem.
For 052D, there'd would be subs, Su30MK2 to handle them. If they approach too close to Vietnam coastline, they could not retreat.
For others, even Su-22 could manage well.
CV-16 with small quantity of J-15, even doesn't dare to enter middle of SCS.

 

[Carlosa]

Have you checked it in the link I've given you? just google Libgen





I charge 50 cent per post.



We've already discussed this... getting the Arrow system and joining the US regional BMD system is the only way to go.

I'll try that link, haven't used it for a while, but at that time I downloaded more than a hundred books

 

[William Hung]

Are you talking nonsense? I think you are mixing HQ-9/ S-300 missile with oldies SA-75 SAM?

No, you are talking nonsense if you think the HHQ-9 on the 052D can intercept a fighter at 221km. Go check the specs for yourself.

The recent HQ-9 offered to Turkey can only intercept a fighter at 125km range.

China is called the World factory for a reason. Saudi bought Our wing loong UCAV for 1 million each. And that is export price. PLAAF and PLANAF will get it at cost price only.

OK, good luck flying all those UCAV in the big SCS. Make sure you have plenty of fighters flying around too.

 

[Carlosa]

The chance to be attacked by Chinese aircrafts into Vietnam is low.
China has limit aerial refueling ability compare to USA during Vietnam War. So it's not a problem.
For 052D, there'd would be subs, Su30MK2 to handle them. If they approach too close to Vietnam coastline, they could not retreat.
For others, even Su-22 could manage well.
CV-16 with small quantity of J-15, even doesn't dare to enter middle of SCS.

Very correct, not a chance that chinese ships can detect the improved kilos, not even active sonar can detect them. That's enough to take care of 052D &C and company.

No, you are talking nonsense if you think the HHQ-9 on the 052D can intercept a fighter at 221km. Go check the specs for yourself..

Talking nonsense is what these people do all day long mate, they have nothing else to do when they are off school.