Video of fight between Imran Khan and Javed Hashmi

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Govt. can act like a real govt. and actually listen to opposition and act accordingly in a timely manner. NS always has took great joy in delaying every possible request made by any faction which tbh has bitten his arse every time. People have been sitting in red zone for almost 17 days when is this excuse of a govt. really going to be serious in negotiations? Moving ahead is pressure on the govt. nothing out of law, against NS's own law maybe.

Just replying on bold part.. What is serious negotiations? Government announce Election reforms and election audit even before long march. They accept demands very next day 5 out 6, but IK kept going for "I will not go without resignation".. Why should PM resign when whole parliament is behind him(resolution), senate is behind him (resolution). Since Imran Khan (FB PM) asked him? What is hard to understand if found rigging then whole parliament will go anyway with PM. It was IK's ego problem or part of the script handed over to him..

 

[Strigon]

Just replying on bold part.. What is serious negotiations? Government announce Election reforms and election audit even before long march. They accept demands very next day 5 out 6, but IK kept going for "I will not go without resignation".. Why should PM resign when whole parliament is behind him(resolution), senate is behind him (resolution). Since Imran Khan (FB PM) asked him? What is hard to understand if found rigging then whole parliament will go anyway with PM. It was IK's ego problem or part of the script handed over to him..

Demands were made long time ago. NS like I said takes great pride in putting delays in every possible scenario and only dig his grave a little more deeper i.e. create more problems for himself. And people are getting sick and tired of his incompetence and corruption. FIR in Model down is another prime example. Even his own party people are realizing they are on the wrong side. He is an expert at buying out people's souls, parliament and senate is no exception.

IK doesn't have any problem, problem is the people who despite all the unfulfilled promises, living in more poverty than before, calling self nuclear power but not able to receive even 1/4th of a day's worth of electricity yet love their badshah so much as to put him and his future generations in a palace but go out to live in another country or accept the shitty life forever.

 

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You don't have to apologize man. I always appreciate a discussion (wish I can teach this to these two idiots destroying your country too, to solve their issues with talking).

Second, Bhutto was there before my birth lol, and I didn't start to learn about Pakistani politics till mid nineties, so my information is second handed. But from a democratic system and political standpoint, someone is considered a democratic leader with a vote bank. In my opinion, the destruction march that IK and Mullah have embarked, I don't think they are ANYTHING short of domestic terrorist. But they do have a vote bank and to that vote bank, they are called leaders unless convicted by the court of law otherwise. So I am bound to call them leaders in general due to their vote bank (and whatever name I wan to call then individually as I feel is necessary). But the legal generalization is due to their vote bank or due to a legal court of law ordering their status to be something else.

Aurangzeb.
I have lived through the times of Bhutto and was of an age where I could recognize the difference between right and wrong at a national level. I hate Bhutto firstly for the role that he played in the dismemberment of the country and secondly for the great disappointment that he and his cronies put the country through. He had the charisma and the get up and go to take this country and shape a nation out of it and he lost it all due to impatience and a very petty and vengeful nature. I wont derail this thread by describing in detail what he did but Needless to say that his tenure was the first sign of things to come for Pakistan.
Araz

 

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Aurangzeb.
I have lived through the times of Bhutto and was of an age where I could recognize the difference between right and wrong at a national level. I hate Bhutto firstly for the role that he played in the dismemberment of the country and secondly for the great deceit that he and his cronies

I have no reason to argue with you or try to prove you wrong when these events happened before I was even born. My focus on Pakistani politics started in Late 90's. So all I know before that time is second hand information that I learned. So where I don't know enough, I admit without hesitation.
But there is the reality now or till a few years ago, his party, the PPP does have a vote bank. So whether you or someone likes it or not, he would be considered a leader JUST for the sheer fact that they do have a big vote bank and have been elected by the people to rule the country many times.

 

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Demands were made long time ago. NS like I said takes great pride in putting delays in every possible scenario and only dig his grave a little more deeper i.e. create more problems for himself. .

Ohh come on, before 15 July it was only 4 halqa which was with election tribunal already.. what exactly Government could do for it? & btw for NA-118 result was out, which wasn't in favor of PTI. on 15 Jun, PTI ask for full audit and media circulation was already their but it's Imran khan which kept quiet until X-ISI chief met him on 2nd Aug. So his this demand was also accepted on 10th Aug by Government.. It's a lie that government didn't want to proceed.. (I think why Government was even giving favors to PTI, when they were not even opposition leaders, it was wrong from Government who made them Imran what he is today. They could have simply ignore this moron who can't stay on one thing for sometime..

 

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Hashmi is a disgusting human, sold himself once again like a prostitute. Lanat on him.

 

[Strigon]

Ohh come on, before 15 July it was only 4 halqa which was with election tribunal already.. what exactly Government could do for it? & btw for NA-118 result was out, which wasn't in favor of PTI. on 15 Jun, PTI ask for full audit and media circulation was already their but it's Imran khan which kept quiet until X-ISI chief met him on 2nd Aug. So his this demand was also accepted on 10th Aug by Government.. It's a lie that government didn't want to proceed.. (I think why Government was even giving favors to PTI, when they were not even opposition leaders, it was wrong from Government who made them Imran what he is today. They could have simply ignore this moron who can't stay on one thing for sometime..

Every single media channel, opposition party, and even PMNL's own people have admitted their mistakes in making delays and they still dont learn from them. One nail on the coffin at a time, until its game over for NS and his legacy. So sorry say but NS's family will have to earn a living and not rely on the leeching so openly and shamefully done by him.

On topic : I wonder whats with all these new and utterly senseless confessions from JH? Where were these when he WAS a part of PTI?? JH is a well known party hopper and has little to no credibility now.

 

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Every single media channel, opposition party, and even PMNL's own people have admitted their mistakes in making delays and they still dont learn from them. One nail on the coffin at a time, until its game over for NS and his legacy. So sorry say but NS's family will have to earn a living and not rely on the leeching so openly and shamefully done by him.

On topic : I wonder whats with all these new and utterly senseless confessions from JH? Where were these when he WAS a part of PTI?? JH is a well known party hopper and has littler to no credibility now.

I proved otherway and you are giving me example what everyone says.. keep it up.. you won

 

[Strigon]

I proved otherway and you are giving me example what everyone says.. keep it up.. you won

I can either believe a someone from teh internets who lives abroad while his beloved govt. makes life at home hell for people or expert political analysts who actually know a little more.

 

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I can either believe a someone from teh internets who lives abroad while his beloved govt. makes life at home hell for people or expert political analysts who actually know a little more.

You can believe whoever you want. The one you is not it whole setup, looking thing from outside, or those whose vission has been limited to small area only. I rest my.case here.,

 

[Strigon]

You can believe whoever you want. The one you is not it whole setup, looking thing from outside, or those whose vission has been limited to small area only. I rest my.case here.,

Typical "I am right cuz -- bigger picture" response, wouldn't have expected anything logical either ways. Atleast you are happy with the govt.'s progress in resolving issues and fulfilling its promises as evident in its great achievements...lets say load shedding, that's all that counts.

 

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Typical "I am right cuz -- bigger picture" response, wouldn't have expected anything logical either ways. Atleast you are happy with the govt.'s progress in resolving issues and fulfilling its promises as evident in its great achievements...lets say load shedding, that's all that counts.

Ok let say loadshadding, in 2012 may electricity generation was 6GW and requirement was 14 GW. In May 2014 when everyone was crying for loadshadding but no body care to see the numbers 20GW required 14GW genertion. At that time i thought may be industry back on its feet tilll i landed Pakistan and confirmation about my assumption and on the top in 2012 signals, street lights almost everywhere was OFF ande we used to see 14-16 hours loadshadding, but today not more than 6-8 hours. Come on i can see the difference why cant you? Didnt you see whole fsd industry was out on the road on 2012 since loadshadding was destroying.. when did in 2014 any industry complaint about loadshadding?

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