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Looks badass but what excuse will NATO give to fight Russia in a non-NATO country? Also, are your people ready to accept the costs of a war after a pandemic and the other campaigns that the American government wants to close to address internal issues?

Just curious about American / NATO nations' public opinions.
 
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Looks badass but what excuse will NATO give to fight Russia in a non-NATO country? Also, are your people ready to accept the costs of a war after a pandemic and the other campaigns that the American government wants to close to address internal issues?

Just curious about American / NATO nations' public opinions.
and 30 trillion debt
 
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Looks badass but what excuse will NATO give to fight Russia in a non-NATO country? Also, are your people ready to accept the costs of a war after a pandemic and the other campaigns that the American government wants to close to address internal issues?

Just curious about American / NATO nations' public opinions.

Ukraine is part of european security architecture and europe has no interest in a neo ussr. Also as long putin doesnt invade Ukraine there wont be any fighting.
 
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Looks badass but what excuse will NATO give to fight Russia in a non-NATO country? Also, are your people ready to accept the costs of a war after a pandemic and the other campaigns that the American government wants to close to address internal issues?

Just curious about American / NATO nations' public opinions.
These days this is one issue where most indians and pakistanis are on the same page.
 
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Our christian brethren need to stop killing each other ------- the down fall is then dumped on the world later on .
 
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Ukraine is part of european security architecture and europe has no interest in a neo ussr. Also as long putin doesnt invade Ukraine there wont be any fighting.
The problem is the Russians can also claim that Ukraine is part of their security architecture - indeed such claim would carry currency. My understanding this was the understanding after the Cold war ended and Putin made a referance to this lately.

Seen objectively NATO is acting like a expansionist power and not holding defensive posture even it it claims otherwise.
 
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The problem is the Russians can also claim that Ukraine is part of their security architecture - indeed such claim would carry currency. My understanding this was the understanding after the Cold war ended and Putin made a referance to this lately.

Seen objectively NATO is acting like a expansionist power and not holding defensive posture even it it claims otherwise.

So NATO ordered Putin to send 100.000 soldiers to ukrainian border and to annex Crimea ect?

Last time i checked all agression at moment comes from Putin
 
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Ukraine is part of european security architecture and europe has no interest in a neo ussr. Also as long putin doesnt invade Ukraine there wont be any fighting.

And Russia is on the moon, isn't it? Ukraine has been more with Russia than most modern Western countries even existed. Come on man. You can't make that shit up. :lol:

That's funny because the US is not involving Ukraine at all in this entire matter. It has become a NATO vs Russia with 0 Ukrainian representation in any of the meetings held. Tells a lot about Zelensky's position under the US.
 
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So NATO ordered Putin to send 100.000 soldiers to ukrainian border and to annex Crimea ect?

Last time i checked all agression at moment comes from Putin
Crimea was a Russian territory that was given to Ukraine under USSR by the then-Soviet Premier, Nikita Khrushchev. Please check the place's history and its position. It was Russian for a long time. On top of that, Russia had heavily invested in the peninsula militarily speaking.

Just because there was a US-backed coup in Kiev, they were not going to let that strategic port of Sevastopol just fall. It would spell a disaster for the Russian Navy's Black Sea fleet.

Equivalent to cutting the American access to the Gulf of Mexico!

Are you telling me that the US would sit still when there are troops stationed on the US-Mexican border? Puhleese!

Russia is free to move its troops anywhere on the border. Zelensky's doing a Saakashvili all over again.

In 2008, The Ossetian issue was not as intense before Saakashvili's idiocy compelled him to piss off the Russians, thanks to American patronage. The result was a useless war, that ended with Georgia being flattened and creating a political rift by Western hand-picked local leaders.

The same format is being replicated here with Ukraine as well.

Azerbaijan-Armenia war in 2020 was unexpected, otherwise NATO would have done it with Armenians as well.
 
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Ukraine is part of european security architecture and europe has no interest in a neo ussr. Also as long putin doesnt invade Ukraine there wont be any fighting.

The chances of Europe and the US going to war with Russia over Ukraine are non existent. This isn't 1914, a third world war will annihilate the American and European influence and leave the world for China to rule.

At most they will be given aid and weapons.
 
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And Russia is on the moon, isn't it? Ukraine has been more with Russia than most modern Western countries even existed. Come on man. You can't make that shit up. :lol:

That's funny because the US is not involving Ukraine at all in this entire matter. It has become a NATO vs Russia with 0 Ukrainian representation in any of the meetings held. Tells a lot about Zelensky's position under the US.

Maybe i have to explain to you freedom and democracy. Its totally irrelevant want Russia wants. Ukraine decides its fate. Russia is a facist dictatorship that offers nothing but misery. Thats the core issue why evryone around it wants to escape its influence. It simply has nothing to offer. Add the fact that they genocided millions of Ukrainians in early 20th century under Stalin and you will realize that Russia has lost this.

Here are the core points:

- freedom of nations to chose their alliances

- guaranteed integrity of a nation states borders


If you sacrifice Ukraine it will be like Hitler in 1938, when appeasement was used and Czech Republic sacrificed to the Nazis. Next would be Poland, Sweden, Norway and the Baltics.


So whats the goal now? Ukraine gets pushed up with weapons to make any invasion attempt of Putin an expensive one. Add that there is the threat of Russia being blocked out of SWIFT which would be the nuclear kill button for Russia.

Its in Russias hands now, if Putin invades Ukraine he risks the complete annihilation of the russian economy and casualities in the tenthousands. Ukrainians have become fiercly defendents of their nation and are equipped now with advanced weapon systems.


Oh and Putin managed that Sweden now thinks about joining NATO as well, simply because its security is seen in danger from Russian attempts to invade as well.

The chances of Europe and the US going to war with Russia over Ukraine are non existent. This isn't 1914, a third world war will annihilate the American and European influence and leave the world for China to rule.

At most they will be given aid and weapons.

The cances of Russia invading Ukraine are zero as well, since Russia would get annihilated. The threat of being cut of SWIFT as nuclear option is enough to prevent this anways.

Putin is a rather simple dictator and ageing but he is not an idiot. He knows 100% that the West will not accept any attempts of Russia to gain influence in Europe. So what we will see is a stall in the status quo.
 
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If you sacrifice Ukraine it will be like Hitler in 1938, when appeasement was used and Czech Republic sacrificed to the Nazis. Next would be Poland, Sweden, Norway and the Baltics.


So whats the goal now? Ukraine gets pushed up with weapons to make any invasion attempt of Putin an expensive one. Add that there is the threat of Russia being blocked out of SWIFT which would be the nuclear kill button for Russia.

Washington and london are aware that that won't work. In 2025, the plan is to have trump leave any of the severe sanctions on Russia for their annexation of the Ukraine. With the clot shot killing thousands, the cia plan is that the public demands Republicans ban the clot shot and have another trump revolution, bigger than the fraud of 2016.

That is why defeating trump is very important, putin is fully aware that trump is there to save putin and Russia in 2025. Russia would be back in SWIFT in 2025, yet unable to sell any arms to India, Iran, Turkey. And perhaps even sell spare parts too. trump is about the very gradual normalization of Russia.
 
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@Foinikas
@Apollon

The whole putin facade is a fraud. putin is the worst snake oil salesperson.


putin is part of the old cia plan to keep Europe weak, to destroy competition in Europe.

There are many mafias in Russia, putin has own mafia.
 
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