Victims of Hindutvadi terrorism and anti-humanity : An elderly man and a professor

[Foinikas]

@Foinikas, the vid. The daily horrifying and totally crazy things that happen in India.

Is it because of the Hindutva culture?

 

[jamahir]

80 - 100 murders are reported in India every single day God knows how many go unreported. Each one of them is gruesome and reprehensible, why be selective?

So speak on PDF and your offline circle of creating a Communist society in India and outside where there is harmony, sanity, tranquility and almost no crimes. In the USSR murder was considered a Capitalist artifact because once the citizen has been given a welfare-based society with free housing, free water, free basic food, free electricity, free healthcare, free education etc and there is no dog-eat-dog society surrounding them and money stops being a headbreaking concern in the citizen's life why should rationally the citizen commit murder, unless he or she is a psychopath which again in a Communist society will be rare to come by ? You don't want murders in India, Communism is the way to go.

Muslims are more prone to crime and have unproportionate numbers in jails, Why not a thread victims of muslim crimes and inhuman behavior yadla yadla?

Stop mouthing OpIndia again. Is there a viral vid going on about a Muslim leader and his group suspecting an elderly man to be a Hindu and then proceeding to lynch him ?

But I agree, there are so many Muslims in India who are unfairly targeted by Indian police and their political masters on trumped up charges under, many under draconian laws, and sent to jail until either the courts after months or years voluntarily release them or there is legal fight done by human rights activists. Cases like of Dr. Kafeel Khan, Umar Khalid, Sharjeel Imam and the man in Uttar Pradesh sent to jail for marrying a Hindu girl. So yes, this way there are many Muslims in Indian jails though I don't deny that there are a few bad elements like muggers and honor killers too but the majority are unfairly jailed by Indian law, at least the law misused.

All these good for nothing Ambedkarite do is spew hate against Hindus, Hindu Gods/customs/festival, Modi, Brahmins, RSS, US, Israel, North India, South India, Martians and whosoever they can. Even after getting reservations they still believe all ills in their lives is because of others. They are just hate-filled, brain-washed, frustrated bunch of morons with bad, real-bad victim mentality.

They are right to hate you when for the last 3000 years you have been oppressing them. Do you not understand this ? Last year, a two-year Dalit boy ran into a Hindu temple and the priests there were outraged that this boy had defiled the holy temple with his "polluting" presence and they got the criminal village "elders" to put a fine of 25,000 rupees on the boy's family for that "defilement" ! In Gujarat some months ago a police officer who was a Dalit was on his wedding procession, probably sitting on a horse, and his procession was attacked by stupid villagers who were incited by the upper caste Hindu influential people who were outraged that he, a "lowly" Dalit, had dared to sit on a horse and parade through the village and thus he be taught his place ! The police officer was being accompanied by his colleagues yet the party was attacked. If a police officer can be attacked by the upper castes what is the chance for other Dalits ? In other places upper caste shop keepers will refuse to keep a biscuit pack if a Dalit has picked it up, the Dalit has to buy the pack compulsorily and the shopkeeper will take the money by it being dropped into his hands and not receiving it normally like it would be with upper caste customers. These are just three examples. Your filthy, anti-human book Manusmriti which prescribes oppressions against the female and against Dalits including pouring molten lead in the ear of any Dalit who happens to hear the Veda religious text verses. These things have been happening for the 3000 years that Hinduism, in particular the malevolent form - Hindutva - has been in India, no two ways to describe this. Why should the Dalit not hate you and your customs ? Why should any rational, empathetic and sane person anywhere in the world not hate your ways ? It is now for you to understand the wrongs of your culture and change. No shame in doing that. in fact you will become an evolved human.

And this "reservations" thing for Dalits that you say as if you grandly donated to them, hasn't made a change in the 75 years of India's existence as can be seen above.

Lastly, I want the Palestinian Muslims, Christians and others and the Israeli Jews and others to live in one country with a democratic, progressive political system. But why are you supporting Israel here ? Phull sapport saar, eh ?

Please change.

Is it because of the Hindutva culture?

Absolutely ! Please read just above about its examples. Additionally, a culture which throws widows alive into the burning pyre woods of her dead husband and celebrates the act by calling it Sati, associating it with divinity ( the last publicly known case of sati happened not 400 years ago but in 1987 just 35 years ago ), and maintaining the most extreme Capitalist socio-economic system in human history, and probably gave honor killing to the world, such a culture can be callous and casually memory-erasing after doing lynchings.

 

[mulj]

India positive.

 

[RescueRanger]

If you look up the definition of terrorism - these actions are just that. Domestic - terrorism.

Really tragic - but I had been told about these things by a couple of older members who are no longer active on PDF.

 

[Great Janjua]

These are two very recent incidents in India but this can be a mega thread but if you make contributions about new incidents please be rational, not religious extremist yourself and speak on a general pan-human level, something that can be understood by every human anywhere on Earth.

Incident 1, 2022-05-20 : An elderly Hindu man was lynched in BJP-ruled Madhya Pradesh by a BJP leader and his gang because they suspected him to be a Muslim. The elderly man was confused mostly because of his age and his confusion enraged the bhagwa criminals and they demanded identification card but he possibly didn't provide it because of his confused state so they lynched him. Updated : the vid below I got courtesy @StraightEdge :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1527839259272843274

Now the home minister of MP is Narottam Mishra who is an ugly, violent man usually going about with an aggressive Hindutvadi tikka ( vermilion powder smear ) on the forehead and he has before done criminal acts like arrest innocent people by even sending MP police to other states for the arrest because he and his gang deemed those people as having insulted Hinduism in some way. What would this violent home minister do now, now that his own party's criminals have done a lynching ? I will try to search for viral vid of the elderly man beaten roughed up the BJP thugs. I found this article about the same MP state where in January a dog came under the wheel of a truck. Later two dog lover thugs like @Sharma Ji went to the house of the truck driver and beat him up for daring to kill the holy dog. The driver's relatives says that the criminals hanged him after killing him. So in the BJP-ruled MP a bloody dog's death can be the reason to kill a human, as will a human be killed or arrested if he or she happens to be in few ticked clauses ( Muslim [ even a suspected one ], a progressive etc ). My commiserations for the two dead people ( the elderly man and the truck driver ) and may all the dogs in the world be eradicated.

Incident 2, 2022-05-20 : In Delhi Professor Ratan Lal of Hindu College, Delhi University was arrested by Delhi Police at 10:30 PM at his house. The professor was a Dalit, a community oppressed in the Indian Subcontinent for the last 3000 years and he preached the progressive and social reforming ideas of the legendary Bhimrao Ambedkar, the first law minister of India and the main drafter of India's constitution which is progressive to a good extent. Ambedkar had fought against the oppression of the Shudras and Dalits by the upper caste Hindus for decades and ultimately in 1956 converted to Buddhism in rejection of his born religion and in his idea of emancipation, publicly along with 365,000 of his followers. Professor Ratan Lal openly preached Ambedkar's ideas and that rankled the Hindutvadis obviously but his latest "crime" was that being knowledgeable about history he made an observation on Facebook about the supposed presence of a Shivling in the Gyanvapi mosque in Banaras where there is a big controversy going on where Hindutvadis claim that the mosque was forcibly built on top of a Hindu temple so should be given back to them. Professor Ratan Lal said that his observation was made in a considered and careful language. But Delhi Police arrested him. It should be pointed out that Delhi Police is commanded directly by the central home ministry and the central government of India is of the BJP since 2014 and Delhi Police has been notorious is being the gun-arm of the Hindutvadis, starting with arresting progressive students from JNU university in 2016, then entering JMI university in 2019 and attacking students including female students and leading to injuries among the students including loss of an eye of one male student, then in 2019-2020 arresting Muslims and non-Muslims including a pregnant Muslim student, Safoora Zargar, for protesting against the draconian CAA / NRC laws, then in 2020 allowing Hindutvadis to destroy places and massacre Muslims in the Delhi "riots" but Delhi Police instead arresting Muslims and progressive non-Muslims for the violence including two girls from the all-female progressive group Pinjra Tod and Umar Khalid ( Umar is still in jail ), then in 2021 putting up barricades on Delhi borders to prevent protesting farmers from entering Delhi to set up protest sites and harassing the farmers till the end of the protests ended in December, then in late 2021 allowing Hindutvadis to hold the in-trend Dharam Sansads - Hindutvadi religious gatherings where they vow to establish Hindu Rashtra and genocide "adharmis" ( Communists probably ) and "vidharmis" ( Muslims and Christians primarily ) and Delhi Police not arresting the organizers and the participants but saying "there was no hate speech" LOL, then in 2022 allowing or even accompanying Hindutvadis to go on their violent motorcycle rallies called Shobha Yatras carrying swords and other weapons deliberately through Muslim-majority or mixed-religion areas and damaging shops of poor Muslims there and then dancing to violent or genocidal songs in front of mosques provoking the Muslims and when some Muslims respond foolishly with stones then our Delhi Police come the next day with bulldozers and demolish the houses, concrete shops and even commercial pushcarts of Muslims who are targeted but some Hindus also became victims of these blind targetings and the most notorious of such Delhi Police bulldozer action was in Jahangirpuri done under the cover of IIRC 4000 Delhi Police personnel and it was only the Supreme Court order petitioned by two progressive lawyers including Prashant Bhushan and carried to Jahangirpuri by Communist leader Brinda Karat that stopped the demolition there. So it is not surprising that the same Hindutvadi agent Delhi Police ( it should be ashamed of being that ! ) arrested Professor Ratan Lal at 10:30 PM on behalf of the BJP. All the progressive students and teachers across Delhi have erupted in protest. The AISA, a student body affiliated with the Communist Party of India ( Marxist-Leninist ) Liberation to which the lovely and brilliant Shehla Rashid was related to during her time in JNU university, has its members carrying banners like "Modi government down !" and "Saibaba, Hany Babu and now Ratan Lal". Professor Saibaba is a wheelchair-bound person alleged by the BJP government he is a Naxalite ( Communist guerrilla movement member ), not that there is anything at all wrong with being a Naxal, and Saibaba must therefore be jailed. He was put in jail in 2017 and is supposed to be in jail for life, and for what ? For being a rational and against-oppression progressive while it should have been the 600 million right-wingers in India especially the 500 million Hindutvadis who should have been sent off to gulags in coldest Siberia, the hottest part of Australia and cold Antarctica and the Arctic but ideally to planet Pluto. So AISA has rightly protested against the jailing of Professor Ratan Lal. One Dalit activist said on NDTV India that the professor is a war prisoner in a war declared by BJP, the RSS and the other Hindutvadis against the Dalits and other oppressed.

From the Twitter page of AISA :

So the world, especially the Western governments have to stop supporting the Ukrainian Nazi criminal Zelensky and look at what has to be done about the lynchings, jailings, bulldozerings so many other political, social and socio-economic oppressions done by the Hindutvadis in India since 2014 especially, 2014 being the year BJP began to rule India with impunity. The United Nations Organization must act !

Jai Bhim, Laal Salaam, Jai insaaniyat.

@Sudarshan @INDIAPOSITIVE @tshering, how do you view the blatant crimes being done by your Hindutvadi buddies ? Do you want to remain within this group of 500 million criminals ? Please think of exiting them.

@pikkuboss @INS_Vikrant

@Joe Shearer @T90TankGuy @Mentee @fitpOsitive @Bilal9 @Goenitz @Vapnope @Foinikas @Taimur Khurram @Indos @vishwambhar @KedarT @Valiant @Great Janjua @Sainthood 101

Am sorry but India is being turned into a fascist state and that is a fact.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I found this article about the same MP state where in January a dog came under the wheel of a truck. Later two dog lover thugs like @Sharma Ji went to the house of the truck driver and beat him up for daring to kill the holy dog.

justice served.

 

[jamahir]

Am sorry but India is being turned into a fascist state and that is a fact.

India is a fascist state since India began to be ruled by BJP and Modi in 2014.

In 2015, just one year after Modi came to power and did nothing for India other than be ridiculous and oppressive one of Modi's sycophants, a film director named Pahlaj Nihalani made this outrageously funny glorification song about him. The song equates Modi to Gandhi even though it was one ideological predecessor of Modi who assassinated Gandhi. And I am still waiting for the Indian space station built by Modi :

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justice served.

@DrJekyll, sorry, I didn't tag you in the OP. Please read that and then see sociopath Sharma's laugh react to it and see the above post and you will understand why I am harsh with some people.

 

[Paitoo]

@DrJekyll, sorry, I didn't tag you in the OP. Please read that and then see sociopath Sharma's laugh react to it and see the above post and you will understand why I am harsh with some people.

I don't know either of you in person to be making critical judgements. I have known you since I joined PDF and I find you a good, well meaning guy. I don't know much about @Sharma Ji posting history so can't comment on that. However I suspect that some members may be getting pushed to retaliate with extreme statements when they are faced with you turning everything into communists vs rest of the world. I doubt in real life sharmaji disrespects beggars or wants humans to be killed in favour of dogs. I think it is just to spite you, by deliberating taking an opposite view as yours. If you go a little easy with the confrontations, others may follow suit.

The laugh react on PDF is used more to convey disagreement than anything else.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I don't know either of you in person to be making critical judgements. I have known you since I joined PDF and I find you a good, well meaning guy. I don't know much about @Sharma Ji posting history so can't comment on that. However I suspect that some members may be getting pushed to retaliate with extreme statements when they are faced with you turning everything into communists vs rest of the world. I doubt in real life sharmaji disrespects beggars or wants humans to be killed in favour of dogs. I think it is just to spite you, by deliberating taking an opposite view as yours. If you go a little easy with the confrontations, others may follow suit.

The laugh react on PDF is used more to convey disagreement than anything else.

minimum 20K just on dogfood monthly, cats ka is around 8-9...

communist bhikaris get zero anda, not even eggshells.. haha

@jamahir

^ both eating much better than you have ever had in your life

 

[KedarT]

@jamahir is it this incident? or are you referring to something else?

News24 on Twitter: "MP : मानवता को शर्मसार कर देने वाला वीडियो, मानसिक रोगी को विशेष समुदाय के होने के शक में पीटा ◆अगले दिन बुजुर्ग की मौत, नीमच पुलिस ने किया हत्या का प्रकरण दर्ज @JournalistVipin https://t.co/zsc31ly95B" / Twitter

BTW, did anyone miss this news? Teacher arrested for bringing beef in lunch.

scroll.in on Twitter: "#Assam: “The school management committee said that she had brought beef to school for lunch, and was serving it to some members of the staff, which created a sense of discomfort among them,” a police officer said. https://t.co/TVqUnhvb1o" / Twitter

I along with my friends were served beef in a restaurant here in USA a few days back even though we had specifically mentioned that the meat we wanted was chicken. When we pointed that out, they apologized and immediately gave a dish with the meat we wanted. They didn't even accept our payment after the meal. We didn't cause any commotion for this gaffe. And why should we? Mistakes can happen, the poor waiter/chef might have lost his job for this.

 

[Nuclear Clown]

So speak on PDF and your offline circle of creating a Communist society in India and outside where there is harmony, sanity, tranquility and almost no crimes. In the USSR murder was considered a Capitalist artifact because once the citizen has been given a welfare-based society with free housing, free water, free basic food, free electricity, free healthcare, free education etc and there is no dog-eat-dog society surrounding them and money stops being a headbreaking concern in the citizen's life why should rationally the citizen commit murder, unless he or she is a psychopath which again in a Communist society will be rare to come by ? You don't want murders in India, Communism is the way to go.



Stop mouthing OpIndia again. Is there a viral vid going on about a Muslim leader and his group suspecting an elderly man to be a Hindu and then proceeding to lynch him ?

But I agree, there are so many Muslims in India who are unfairly targeted by Indian police and their political masters on trumped up charges under, many under draconian laws, and sent to jail until either the courts after months or years voluntarily release them or there is legal fight done by human rights activists. Cases like of Dr. Kafeel Khan, Umar Khalid, Sharjeel Imam and the man in Uttar Pradesh sent to jail for marrying a Hindu girl. So yes, this way there are many Muslims in Indian jails though I don't deny that there are a few bad elements like muggers and honor killers too but the majority are unfairly jailed by Indian law, at least the law misused.



They are right to hate you when for the last 3000 years you have been oppressing them. Do you not understand this ? Last year, a two-year Dalit boy ran into a Hindu temple and the priests there were outraged that this boy had defiled the holy temple with his "polluting" presence and they got the criminal village "elders" to put a fine of 25,000 rupees on the boy's family for that "defilement" ! In Gujarat some months ago a police officer who was a Dalit was on his wedding procession, probably sitting on a horse, and his procession was attacked by stupid villagers who were incited by the upper caste Hindu influential people who were outraged that he, a "lowly" Dalit, had dared to sit on a horse and parade through the village and thus he be taught his place ! The police officer was being accompanied by his colleagues yet the party was attacked. If a police officer can be attacked by the upper castes what is the chance for other Dalits ? In other places upper caste shop keepers will refuse to keep a biscuit pack if a Dalit has picked it up, the Dalit has to buy the pack compulsorily and the shopkeeper will take the money by it being dropped into his hands and not receiving it normally like it would be with upper caste customers. These are just three examples. Your filthy, anti-human book Manusmriti which prescribes oppressions against the female and against Dalits including pouring molten lead in the ear of any Dalit who happens to hear the Veda religious text verses. These things have been happening for the 3000 years that Hinduism, in particular the malevolent form - Hindutva - has been in India, no two ways to describe this. Why should the Dalit not hate you and your customs ? Why should any rational, empathetic and sane person anywhere in the world not hate your ways ? It is now for you to understand the wrongs of your culture and change. No shame in doing that. in fact you will become an evolved human.

And this "reservations" thing for Dalits that you say as if you grandly donated to them, hasn't made a change in the 75 years of India's existence as can be seen above.

Lastly, I want the Palestinian Muslims, Christians and others and the Israeli Jews and others to live in one country with a democratic, progressive political system. But why are you supporting Israel here ? Phull sapport saar, eh ?

Please change.



Absolutely ! Please read just above about its examples. Additionally, a culture which throws widows alive into the burning pyre woods of her dead husband and celebrates the act by calling it Sati, associating it with divinity ( the last publicly known case of sati happened not 400 years ago but in 1987 just 35 years ago ), and maintaining the most extreme Capitalist socio-economic system in human history, and probably gave honor killing to the world, such a culture can be callous and casually memory-erasing after doing lynchings.

AFAIK, USSR was nowhere near what you described... It was just one of the most criminal regimes in history!