VHP wants India to launch attack in pak kashmir against terror camps, reclaim territory

[Kinetic]

All hail the might Supa Puwa.

Supa pawa....

Well had India , stopped the abuses and accepted the will of people , things would not be escalating , quite unfortunate
but the abuses (Human Right) in Kashmir are tremendously gross.

• Beating & abuses leads to anger (This is no rocket science)

Why should any Kashmiri resident take dictation from India ?

Kashmiri were free people !!!now they are held against their will

Why should Kashmiri family be beaten and abused ? when they even in days of British raj enjoyed perhaps more freedom

Who decided that these free people should be beaten up and controlled by means of army for 60-70 years

So what crime the folks committed ? in 1947 when they asked their own free vote to count ? Why now they have less freedom ? vs Under british raj

So were Balochistan and FATA?

 

[Jobless Jack]

so when is this attack being launched +- 1000 years ?

 

[T90TankGuy]

Who is the alternative in your suggestion? Modi is reaping the benefits of totally incompetent opposition.

The opposition is not incompetent , they were voted out after ten yrs of a stable govt. I doubt modi will see another term , while he may have a following , his party has no vision or even the compulsion to take India forward. all the BJP seems to do is photo ops and big announcements.
Go to the rural India , most are fed up . If there is a election today the BJP wont win half of what they did in 2014.
Everything from price rise to beef , from ghar wapasi to love jihad has dented the image of the bjp so badly its going to be difficult for them to even hold on the the few states they are in power which go to election in the next couple of years.
The opposition will make a comeback in 2019 , not for another reason but because people are tired of ground realities.
There is not one item which we buy today which is cheaper then what it was two yrs ago .

Also the hate generated by bhatks is annoying a lot of the so called middle class . but then lets wait and see.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Supa pawa....





So were Balochistan and FATA?

a victory that your own generals have admitted could not have been achieved with out the bravery of the mukti bahini. your own generals admitted it .. so there indias greatest hour came that too with the support of another country ?
lets rewrite the definition of super power.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This is the flag of Hydrabad state which was taken over by force by India

The Nizam, Osman Ali Khan, decided to keep Hyderabad independent. The leaders of the new Union of India however, were wary of having an independent – and possibly hostile – state in the heart of their new country. Most of the other 565 princely states voluntarily acceded to the new India within a few months.

In September 1948, India launched Operation Polo, led by Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, then Minister of Home Affairs and Deputy Prime Minister of India. The Indian Armed Forces invaded Hyderabad State and took control of the state. The Nizam subsequently signed an Instrument of Accession, joining the state to India

The operation led to massive violence on communal lines. The Indian prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru appointed a commission known as the Sunderlal Committee. Its report, which was not released until 2013, concluded that "as a conservative estimate...27,000 to 40,000 people had lost their lives during and after the police action." Other scholars have put the figure at 200,000, or even higher.


I believe this was illegal act of agression , and genocide killing of 40,000-200,000 citizens of Hyderabad state

 

[ranjeet]

The opposition is not incompetent , they were voted out after ten yrs of a stable govt. I doubt modi will see another term , while he may have a following , his party has no vision or even the compulsion to take India forward. all the BJP seems to do is photo ops and big announcements.
Go to the rural India , most are fed up . If there is a election today the BJP wont win half of what they did in 2014.
Everything from price rise to beef , from ghar wapasi to love jihad has dented the image of the bjp so badly its going to be difficult for them to even hold on the the few states they are in power which go to election in the next couple of years.
The opposition will make a comeback in 2019 , not for another reason but because people are tired of ground realities.
There is not one item which we buy today which is cheaper then what it was two yrs ago .

Also the hate generated by bhatks is annoying a lot of the so called middle class . but then lets wait and see.

Well I believe voting pattern of Indians have changed a bit, it's more like a presidential elections. A large section of voters pick a face and go with them. And as far as issues you mentioned in the post, I agree it has hurt BJP's image a little but if opposition tried to over play it I fear it might backfire and end up helping Modi.

Modi still enjoys popular support but if he fails to act after this attack on Indian Army he stands to lose a lot.

 

[Kinetic]

a victory that your own generals have admitted could not have been achieved with out the bravery of the mukti bahini. your own generals admitted it .. so there indias greatest hour came that too with the support of another country ?
lets rewrite the definition of super power.

Another country? BD was not a country that time, India liberated Bangladesh with full participation of Army, Navy and Air force. And Mukti bahani? They were pawns and real war fought by Indian army soldiers.

Indian attacks on East Pakistan

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Sending an army and controlling the Will of people has been old tactic followed by Indian politicians and military

> Take over of Kashmir (enslave, military operations FAILING Killing locals)
> Military operation in Hyderabad state (occupy with force , state owner wanted own country)
> Military operation against Portuguese areas (Portuguese signed treaty later) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Portuguese_India

These are all same stories
> Attack on West / East Pakistan (FAILED)
> Attack on China (FAILED)
> 1971 India did same tactic and invaded East Pakistan (war and military force)

So really we are well aware of what Indian politicians / military do

There will be the same old chant against Pakistan and then there would be lot of steam build up
to hide the atrocities and killing in Kashmir


Here is more from the Occupation of Hydrabad

This is a indian committee report

The Committee concluded that while Muslims villagers were disarmed by the Indian Army, Hindus were often left with their weapons. The violence was carried out by Hindu residents, with the army sometimes indifferent, and sometimes participating in the atrocities.:11 The Committee stated that large-scale violence against Muslims occurred in Marathwada and Telangana areas. It also concluded: "At a number of places members of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males from villages and towns and massacred them in cold blood." The Committee generally credited the military officers with good conduct but stated that soldiers acted out of bigotry. The official "very conservative estimate" was that 27,000 to 40,000 died "during and after the police action." Other scholars have put the figure at 200,000, or even higher.


Hyderabad requested a Independent country !!! Just for the record

• This is documented evidence that the country believes in constant abuse of power

 

[Jobless Jack]

Another country? BD was not a country that time, India liberated Bangladesh with full participation of Army, Navy and Air force. And Mukti bahani? They were pawns and real war fought by Indian army soldiers.

Indian attacks on East Pakistan

i suggest reading what your general jacob said about the role of mukti bahini in the war.

 

[RISING SUN]

Well I believe voting pattern of Indians have changed a bit, it's more like a presidential elections. A large section of voters pick a face and go with them. And as far as issues you mentioned in the post, I agree it has hurt BJP's image a little but if opposition tried to over play it I fear it might backfire and end up helping Modi.

Modi still enjoys popular support but if he fails to act after this attack on Indian Army he stands to lose a lot.

Bhai I was also a silent supporter of his policies initially but it went really south. Though I had lost my faith in Indian government lollypops but thought maybe this time it would be better. Isn't the same thing which we hear from all successive governments every time. Call them on face this is our way of showing politicians that we will not fall for their plays and gimmicks now onwards.

 

[Zibago]

Lol @django @EAK @krash @Jonah Arthur @waz

 

[coffee_cup]

Another country? BD was not a country that time, India liberated Bangladesh with full participation of Army, Navy and Air force. And Mukti bahani? They were pawns and real war fought by Indian army soldiers.

Indian attacks on East Pakistan

Yes your support to terrorism in the neighborhood resulting in death of hundredes of thousans of civilians is well documented, be it Mukti Bahini, LTTE, TTP or BLA.

1971 was much before majority of people on these forums were even born, you might very well bring examples from 1962 or Korea wars etc, for all we care.

Whine as you can, the fact is that India can't do a shyte after home grown militants attack you apart from supporting more terrorism in Pakistan via Afghanistan.

 

[Kinetic]

i suggest reading what your general jacob said about the role of mukti bahini in the war.

I read about Jacob and his book. He will always give credit as a gentleman.

Yes your support to terrorism in the neighborhood resulting in death of hundredes of thousans of civilians is well documented, be it Mukti Bahini, LTTE, TTP or BLA.

1971 was much before majority of people on these forums were even born, you might very well bring examples from 1962 or Korea wars etc, for all we care.

Whine as you can, the fact is that India can't do a shyte after home grown militants attack you apart from supporting more terrorism in Pakistan via Afghanistan.

Mukti Bahani: Tell these to bangladeshis that they were terrorists. No one tells India supported terrorism except Pakistan, where the same cannot said about you ask. Ask India, Afghanistan, Iran, US, and everyone else.

LTTE: Its was supported by SL govt as well.

BLA is not a UN designated terror org.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Facts :

• Occupation of Hyderabad , attack (No love there) , the leader of the state wanted Independent state , no magic merger with India , it was a blatant war and occupation of people

Last Rightful owner of Hydrabad (High Royal Highness Osman Ali Khan)

Hydrabadi Muslims need to stand up and reclaim their own Home land

• Occupation of Kashmir , attack (No love there) , people were not allowed free will (Still goes on)

• Then Attack on China / Portuguese areas

• Then Attack on Pakistan (West / East ) 1965

• Then again more attacks on Pakistan 1971

Documented evidence against Indian aggression

It is 2016, and same struggle in Kashmir , the problem is self created by India for their quest to occupy other regions by force


Typical Indian person , thinks there was this magical kingdom day when India came to birth
after the tooth fairy did a magic trick to produce India from air. All love and peace


Why did India need to attack the Kingdom of Hydrabad? By force
Why did India had to enslave Kashmiri people ? By force

You have your freedom from British - yet your mindset is that of occupying other counties

Your country attacked China in 1962, becasue the Military / Indian politicans were drunk with power you thought you can occupy China also the Western China which was under developed in that time

Even on European country Portugal

What is different between this ?

vs What Kashmiri people want ?

 

[coffee_cup]

Mukti Bahani: Tell these to bangladeshis that they were terrorists. No one tells India supported terrorism except Pakistan, where the same cannot said about you ask. Ask India, Afghanistan, Iran, US, and everyone else.

LTTE: Its was supported by SL govt as well.

BLA is not a UN designated terror org.

There is a very thin line between Freedom Fighters and Terrorists.

It all depends from which side of the border you are looking at them.

You supported and still supporting terrorists who spread havoc in neighboring countries by killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, now at some point in time neighbors are going to retaliate. So live with that and stop whining.