Very sad if India boycotted London Olympics: British PM

[Yeti]

On 7th December 1984 UCC Chairman and CEO Warren Anderson was arrested at the airport by the Madhya Pradesh Police Anderson was released six hours later on $2,100 bail and flown out of India on a government plane. In 1987, the Indian government summoned Anderson, eight other executives and two company affiliates with homicide charges to appear in an Indian court, but Union Carbide refused, claiming they were not under Indian jurisdiction. The US Supreme Court has refused to hear the case. In 1991, the local Bhopal authorities charged Warren Anderson with manslaughter: he was declared a fugitive from justice by the Chief Judicial Magistrate of Bhopal just 20 years ago, on 1st February 1992, for failing to appear at the court hearings in a culpable homicide case in which he was named the chief defendant. The Indian government was asked to begin extradition procedings. UCC has been banned from trading in India since 1992 until Warren Anderson and the other UCC executives present themselves for trial.



Courts have already declared him a fugitive for breaking his bail terms but he lives in a nice house in USA.

 

[A1Kaid]

This is what Union Carbide did to Bhopal:


During the last few minutes of Sunday 2nd December 1984, a deeply poisonous gas, methyl-isocyanate (MIC) began leaking from a massive storage tank at Union Carbide’s pesticide factory in Bhopal. Not one of the factory’s safety systems was working. The refrigeration unit which should have cooled the tank had been switched off months earlier to save $37.68 per day on freon coolant, the vent gas scrubber was partially dismantled. The warning siren was switched off, the flare tower was inadequate to cope with the volume of gases, superheated to 400†C, that were rushing through pipes at 180 mph blistering and charring paintwork, exploding into the night air. The factory did not have sufficient water pressure for fire hoses to be sprayed on the escaping gases, so the reaction continued until the huge tank, as big as a locomotive, was empty and 40 tonnes of lethal MIC and other reaction products had bucketed out into the night air over the sleeping city.





Now who was responsible for this? the CEO must have been aware of thes dangerous cost saving measures if not he was not doing his job either way the fault always lies at the top.



He should have faced a Indian court to answer questions about his firms role in the mass murder.




I said this all along we have no case when our own goverment most probs took bribes and let him go.

I don't think Dow chemical administrators and executives even care to comply with the safety regulations when in India, they see India as a third world country they can mistreat and disrespect, it is a sense of superiority an American company can have when operating overseas.

They probably consider Hind a barren wasteland and who cares if people suffer that's why they turned off all the factory's safety systems...

 

[Yeti]

From 1992 onwards, banned from trading legally in India until Warren Anderson stood trial, Union Carbide secretly traded through a web of intermediaries. Legal documents obtained by The Independent show that


Dow continued to permit the unlawful practice started by Union Carbide Corporation (UCC), the company ultimately responsible for the disaster, after it bought the “tainted” company in 2001.

 

[A1Kaid]

Believe me if an Indian chemical company operated a factory somewhere in the US and toxic gas leaked out and killed many people, the US Government would punish India severely they would own the Indian Government until everything was compensated for and even more. The company probably wouldn't ever be allowed to operate overseas again.

 

[Yeti]

I don't think Dow chemical administrators and executives even care to comply with the safety regulations when in India, they see India as a third world country they can mistreat and disrespect, it is a sense of superiority an American company can have when operating overseas.

They probably consider Hind a barren wasteland and who cares if people suffer that's why they turned off all the factory's safety systems...

Thats spot on the life of a Indian is worth far less to that of a American what was the total amount paid $400 odd million was it? and how much did BP have to pay $7.5 bn with some saying final costs could end up $30 bn.

 

[A1Kaid]

Thats spot on the life of a Indian is worth far less to that of a American what was the total amount paid $400 odd million was it? and how much did BP have to pay $7.5 bn with some saying final costs could end up $30 bn.

It has to do with mentality, an American company will certainly feel superior and above the law when operating overseas, they believe they will have to answer to no on but the US Government, the host country doesn't matter. The companies know in a legal issue the mighty US Government will come to their rescue and bail them out, no worries.


All they have to do is make one phone call back to America and their company officials will contact US Government, US Government will call Delhi problem fixed. Simple...

 

[Yeti]

Believe me if an Indian chemical company operated a factory somewhere in the US and toxic gas leaked out and killed many people, the US Government would punish India severely they would own the Indian Government until everything was compensated for and even more. The company probably wouldn't ever be allowed to operate overseas again.

This is why Bhopal is now used by Universities across the planet to highlight corporate greed by fat cats like Warren Anderson it was sad they got away with mass murder on the cheap without ever facing real justice.

 

[anonymus]

This is what Union Carbide did to Bhopal:


During the last few minutes of Sunday 2nd December 1984, a deeply poisonous gas, methyl-isocyanate (MIC) began leaking from a massive storage tank at Union Carbide’s pesticide factory in Bhopal. Not one of the factory’s safety systems was working. The refrigeration unit which should have cooled the tank had been switched off months earlier to save $37.68 per day on freon coolant, the vent gas scrubber was partially dismantled. The warning siren was switched off, the flare tower was inadequate to cope with the volume of gases, superheated to 400†C, that were rushing through pipes at 180 mph blistering and charring paintwork, exploding into the night air. The factory did not have sufficient water pressure for fire hoses to be sprayed on the escaping gases, so the reaction continued until the huge tank, as big as a locomotive, was empty and 40 tonnes of lethal MIC and other reaction products had bucketed out into the night air over the sleeping city.





Now who was responsible for this? the CEO must have been aware of thes dangerous cost saving measures if not he was not doing his job either way the fault always lies at the top.



He should have faced a Indian court to answer questions about his firms role in the mass murder.




I said this all along we have no case when our own goverment most probs took bribes and let him go.

These fact are well known along with the fact of introduction of water in the chambers during cleaning of one of the chambers which set off the chain reaction.

The court took into cognisance the laxity in safety procedure and sentenced management of Union carbide to 2 yr in prison which is maximum for death due to negligence as those managers have directly taken decision to cut upon safety procedures.

Manslaughter charge in bhopal gas tragedy suffers from a disability that the "reduction in safety procedures did not directly compromised the safety of the plant.They just reduced the buffer between safety and failure.The managers could not have known that reducing a safety procedure would lead to failure of plant.

and murder lol.You have to prove intent for that.

and regarding anderson,his role is even more muddled than the rest.Did he knew that safety of plant is compromised.Isn't safety of plant is delegated to plant manager?

 

[Yeti]

It has to do with mentality, an American company will certainly feel superior and above the law when operating overseas, they believe they will have to answer to no on but the US Government, the host country doesn't matter. The companies know in a legal issue the mighty US Government will come to their rescue and bail them out, no worries.

Which proved to be exactly what occurred:


U.S. Supreme Court Denies Hearing on Legal Standing
The U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear appeal of lower court, thereby affirming that Bhopal victims may not sue for damages in U.S. courts.

 

[anonymus]

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Thats spot on the life of a Indian is worth far less to that of a American what was the total amount paid $400 odd million was it? and how much did BP have to pay $7.5 bn with some saying final costs could end up $30 bn.

Yes that is a sad instance but only GoI is responsible for it as it negotiated horribly or worst cave in to pressure.

This is why Bhopal is now used by Universities across the planet to highlight corporate greed by fat cats like Warren Anderson it was sad they got away with mass murder on the cheap without ever facing real justice.

It certainly is an example of corporate greed and warren Anderson an example of a villian from charles dickens novel.


But that is not a rationale for execution of highest authority.

 

[Yeti]

These fact are well known along with the fact of introduction of water in the chambers during cleaning of one of the chambers which set off the chain reaction.

The court took into cognisance the laxity in safety procedure and sentenced management of Union carbide to 2 yr in prison which is maximum for death due to negligence as those managers have directly taken decision to cut upon safety procedures.

Manslaughter charge in bhopal gas tragedy suffers from a disability that the "reduction in safety procedures did not directly compromised the safety of the plant.They just reduced the buffer between safety and failure.The managers could not have known that reducing a safety procedure would lead to failure of plant.

and murder lol.You have to prove intent for that.

and regarding anderson,his role is even more muddled than the rest.Did he knew that safety of plant is compromised.Isn't safety of plant is delegated to plant manager?

CHRONOLOGY OF THE CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST WARREN ANDERSON



Case against Warren Anderson still on, can be tried: Moily





There is a strong case aganist him from CBI report findings but its too late now.

Amnesty International also called on the Indian and US governments to take legal action against US executives of Union Carbide.

"While the Indian employees have now been tried and convicted, the foreign accused have been able to evade justice simply by remaining abroad," said Audrey Gaughran, an Amnesty director.

In 1989, Union Carbide paid $470m (£282m) in compensation to the Indian government in an out-of-court settlement.

Dow Chemicals, which bought the company in 1999, says this settlement resolved all claims against the company.

In a statement released on Monday, the group said that "all the appropriate people from UCIL (Union Carbide India Limited) - officers and those who actually ran the plant on a daily basis - have appeared to face charges".



Not only Warren Anderson but other senior executives should also have faced Indian courts.

 

[samrat]

The boycott is all a sham propagated by GoI to hide their incompetence in handling the case. So I am against using our athletes as pawn in a political gimmick.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Think about it,make up your mind and then make a decision in the favor of your nation.And then all stick to it like one nation.That's what the people who are involved should do.

IMO sports must be left alone of all hatred,but the issue here is not that simple.As someone said wearing a black band is adequate.Not a bad option either.

And who is Mr.Cameron to tell whether it's a right or wrong decision.His words should carry no weigh for the Indian nation.(A selfish jerk "Aungrezz", he is.)

 

[fallstuff]

What difference does it make if India chooses not to participate. This guys would have won a whole Bronze medal anyway.

The death includes hindu folks mostly, hence the need for this tantrum. Had it been mostly non-hundu deaths, these guys would not have cared.

 

[Ammyy]

What difference does it make if India chooses not to participate. This guys would have won a whole Bronze medal anyway.

The death includes hindu folks mostly, hence the need for this tantrum. Had it been mostly non-hundu deaths, these guys would not have cared.

If we thinking about medal tally so even if more than half countries boycott Olympics its doesn't affect any one(Include your country)

GOI tried it by diplomacy but they dnt want to understand so its another way