Uyghur Concentration Camps?

[xenon54 out]

If you don't believe those camps exist, then why have you been posting?

Look at my first post, it was an answer to your arrogant compatriot boasting about the ''Uyghurs living better in those camps than avarage Turk''.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/uyghur-concentration-camps.560751/#post-10524962

As you see its your compatriot saying those camps exist not me.

I hope the words of the Turkish government are more reliable than yours.

One exsample Chinese goverment is banning fasting in Xinjiang, this is a intervention into freedom of religion.
Other exsample is demographic engineering in Xinjang, Tibet etc.
Those are just the things i have come across and remember, i guess it would just take me a minute to find more.

So you judge China because you assume all communist countries are the same. How about Cuba? Is Cuba a "subduer" too?

Cuba opened up in recent years more but its still quite an oppressive regime.

 

[Feng Leng]

I lived in China for about 4 years. I did not have long conversations with Uyghurs since there were not many where i stayed in but from the Chinese friends i talked to about them, i can say Uyghurs are seen as potential terrorists by both the government and Chinese people. Even the military personel are not very eager to serve in the East Turkistan (Xinjiang).

There is also ethnic discrimination at employment. Uyghurs have litlle to zero chance to find a regular job in the private sector and (probably) in the governmental positions. (You can refute me by giving sources to prove opposite)

Meanwhile here in Turkey, the kurds occupy most of high rank political positions. We have had a kurdish president in the past, the prime minister at the present. Even today many of the ministers are ethnically kurdish.

Most of the Kurds of Turkey do not even pay the utility bills like electricty, water etc...


This topic is too much sensitive. so i prefer not to say more...

You asked for proof and @UserUnknown2025 already gave it to you.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/uyghur-concentration-camps.560751/page-15#post-10525406

As you see its your compatriot saying those camps exist not me.

I meant there are no "concentration camps" or "genocide camps". The re-education camps for individuals associated with extremism is pretty tame compared to how other countries treat separatist agitators.

One exsample Chinese goverment is banning fasting in Xinjiang, this is a intervention into freedom of religion.

Fasting is not banned unless you want to join the atheist party or get a government job. That is your choice.

Other exsample is demographic engineering in Xinjang, Tibet etc.

There is no demographic engineering. Chinese citizens (including Hui, Kazakhs, etc.) are allowed to move to Xinjiang if they wish because it is a part of the country, naturally.

 

[Kaniska]

There is a reason for which most of the separatist movement from Muslims are not supported equally by all Non Muslim nations...This is a classic thread to understand it..

Be it Palestine, Kashmir, East Turkmenistan movement and so on...there is definitely certain amount of truth that Muslims are targetted....But again..human right is cause are subjective in nature... It depends on the power play and the nation who are dealing with it...

For Muslim nations...they get enraged when Ugighurs are so called opressed in China...but same nation are silent for Tibet separatism movement..This is called hypocrisy at its best...

I will ask another question to Turks and Pakistan friends here...If Tibet and their people can be assimilated to Chinese Culture then Why can not Ugighyurs be assimilated too...????

 

[UserUnknown2025]

There is a reason for which most of the separatist movement from Muslims are not supported equally by all Non Muslim nations...This is a classic thread to understand it..

Be it Palestine, Kashmir, East Turkmenistan movement and so on...there is definitely certain amount of truth that Muslims are targetted....But again..human right is cause are subjective in nature... It depends on the power play and the nation who are dealing with it...

For Muslim nations...they get enraged when Ugighurs are so called opressed in China...but same nation are silent for Tibet separatism movement..This is called hypocrisy at its best...

I will ask another question to Turks and Pakistan friends here...If Tibet and their people can be assimilated to Chinese Culture then Why can not Ugighyurs be assimilated too...????

They worry more about Hindu terrorists that massacre Muslims in India.

 

[xenon54 out]

Ankara made the right choice to distance itself officially from ETIM. Meanwhile, Turkish citizens should refrain from posting Jewish American propaganda as divine truth.

Turkey recently suffered a lot more from Etim and its likes with terror attacks than China hence the decision to put it into terror list, i have an idea why your compatriots keep insisting on Turkish involvement in this group, its probably just because there is ''Turkestan'' in the name but that doesnt mean Turks have anything to do with it, this kind of thinking is quite shallow.

You guys are very ignorant when it come to Middle Eastern and Islamic affairs otherwise you would know that the Ideology of Etim is the complete opposite of how Turks are praticing Islam.
The Salafi/Wahhabi ideology is one of the rivalising ideologies in this region that Turkey faces and fights since centuries.

Wahhabi War

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not true

@Chinese-Dragon @ChineseTiger1986

It is purely fiction.