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USS Mason encountered and neutralized 7 anti-ship cruise missiles in Yemeni waters in 2016

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"On three separate dates in October 2016, the USS Mason (DDG-87), USS Nitze (DDG-94), USS San Antonio (LPD-17), and USS Ponce (AFSB-15) came under attack while operating off the western coast of Yemen, near the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb. While all four ships were not always operating together as a group when the attacks took place, the Mason was present on 9, 12, and 15 October. In each case the Mason, positioned to respond in defense of the group and herself, fired salvos of Standard missiles, Evolved Sea Sparrow missiles, and electronic countermeasures."

Incident 1

"On Oct. 9, 2016, Mason’s radar detected two anti-ship cruise missiles launching 48 kilometres away from rebel-held areas of Yemen. They flew low over the water at about 1,100 kilometres an hour, and would reach the ship in just over two minutes."

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"On October 9, 2016, Mason’s Aegis combat system detected two ASCMs launching thirty miles away in Yemen. It responded with two long range Standard Missile interceptors, one medium range Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile interceptor and a Nulka missile radar decoy. One ASCM (possibly intercepted) went down twelve miles out, while the other crashed into the sea nine miles out, so the ship did not need to employ its short range Phalanx gun."

Incident 2

"A few days later, on Oct. 12, another cruise missile attacked Mason. It apparently was shot down 13 kilometres away, about 45 seconds before it would have struck."

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"On October 12 Mason faced a single ASCM and intercepted it eight miles out."

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"A few days later, the Mason came under fire as it escorted the San Antonio and merchant vessel Green Ridge in the Red Sea.

Another coastal defense missile was fired at the ship by the rebels, and the Mason again engaged the missile by firing a SM-2 missile."


Incident 3

"The ship fended off more cruise missiles on Oct. 15."

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"This time, rebels fired five anti-ship cruise missiles, according to the Navy.

The Mason fired off a radar decoy, an infrared decoy and several SM-2s in response. But that only took care of four of the missiles.

The fifth was incoming on the accompanying destroyer Nitze. The Mason’s crew alerted Nitze to the threat, and she utilized a radar decoy.

Again, the Mason and her crew remained in a defensive screening position as the other ships moved to safety."


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"Several days later, five cruise missiles were fired at Mason and the destroyer, USS Nitze. Again, the ships fired missiles and decoys to bring down all five."

Sources:-

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/11/03/four-ship-crews-receive-combat-action-ribbon/
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...s/news-story/fb26e208143c94da0a0b1b866d6a572b
https://news.usni.org/2017/10/18/de...-missiles-recognized-best-atlantic-fleet-ship
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-the-us-navy-learning-beat-anti-ship-missiles-22535
https://theconversation.com/missile-interception-from-yemen-to-the-south-china-sea-84676
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-09/red-sea-combat-generates-high-velocity-learning
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/Pages/-USS-Mason-Awarded-Battenberg-Cup-.aspx#.Wn3456iWbIU
 
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@The Deterrent @HRK @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Oscar @Bilal Khan 777 @Arsalan @The Eagle

What are the chances of our Zarb, Herba and C-802, The Coastal, The Ship Fired and the Air-Launched missiles to be easily picked by Barak-8 as it is as capable as the above examples and the indians ships as far as i know do carry radar and IR decoys !
I don't think ASCMs are critical to Pakistan's AShW strategy. Yes, ASCMs will be used against ships - esp. intruding small ships that might attempt another Operation Trident - but the real AShW assets are Pakistan's submarines. If not that, then I guess the only other alternative is saturated strikes and supersonic-cruising ASCM.
 
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I don't think ASCMs are critical to Pakistan's AShW strategy. Yes, ASCMs will be used against ships - esp. intruding small ships that might attempt another Operation Trident - but the real AShW assets are Pakistan's submarines. If not that, then I guess the only other alternative is saturated strikes and supersonic-cruising ASCM.

In distant future, Our Submarines are going to use Herba or Zarb based ASCM to hit Indian ships from standoff ranges.
 
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Is it wise to come within 50 KM of Indian warships when there would be P-8 I overhead ?
ASW is one of the most difficult, if not the most difficult, aspect of naval warfare. For Pakistan, the goal isn't to chase Indian ships, but to deter Indian presence in Pakistan's EEZ. For India, imposing such a presence would require a very robust ASW presence. ASW aircraft could come under threat from PAF fighters (which is why a long-range platform is so necessary now), while surface ships will need to be wary of submarines.
 
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@The Deterrent @HRK @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Oscar @Bilal Khan 777 @Arsalan @The Eagle

What are the chances of our Zarb, Herba and C-802, The Coastal, The Ship Fired and the Air-Launched missiles to be easily picked by Barak-8 as it is as capable as the above examples and the indians ships as far as i know do carry radar and IR decoys !
The Mason’s system and magazine capabilities far outweigh those on the closest Indian type.
While the Elta radar is impressive, the Aegis system is simply unmatched except closest by the Type 45s of the Royal Navy.

In addition, the Mason carries some 64 Sm-2s along with its ESSMs.

The Barak gives a big advantage not as a singular ship but when fighting in coordination with other ships at sea.
Additionally, the Noor type C-802 derivatives and Silkworms are pretty simple sea skimmers compared to the missiles we currently have active and coming in.


While it is a deterrent to AShMs , the true threat of Barak is its land based version.
 
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ASW is one of the most difficult, if not the most difficult, aspect of naval warfare. For Pakistan, the goal isn't to chase Indian ships, but to deter Indian presence in Pakistan's EEZ. For India, imposing such a presence would require a very robust ASW presence. ASW aircraft could come under threat from PAF fighters (which is why a long-range platform is so necessary now), while surface ships will need to be wary of submarines.

The problem is if they are going to extend the range of Brahmos to 600-800 KM. They can easily launch their ASCM from within their own EEZ and harass Pakistani surface warships while their Submarines lurk at the edge of their EEZ on the lookout for Pakistani subs

In next 10-15 years India and Pakistan both going to have potent submarine force.
 
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The problem is if they are going to extend the range of Brahmos to 600-800 KM. They can easily launch their ASCM from within their own EEZ and harass Pakistani surface warships while their Submarines lurk at the edge of their EEZ on the lookout for Pakistani subs

In next 10-15 years India and Pakistan both going to have potent submarine force.
That's why analogous capability - i.e. Pakistan buying its own supersonic ASCM - is necessary.
 
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That's why analogous capability - i.e. Pakistan buying its own supersonic ASCM - is necessary.

With the current US ban on NDC,NESCOM and related strategic organizations. I'm getting a feeling the R&D has slowed down. It's been over a year since MIRV and SLCM was tested. If Pakistan wants to go for a 400+ KM supersonic ASCM. It will again take a very long time, give or take a decade
 
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With the current US ban on NDC,NESCOM and related strategic organizations. I'm getting a feeling the R&D has slowed down. It's been over a year since MIRV and SLCM was tested. If Pakistan wants to go for a 400+ KM supersonic ASCM. It will again take a very long time, give or take a decade
Pakistan can procure the CM-302 or CX-1 from China off-the-shelf. But yes, domestic development is way, way out of the way unless Pakistan can secure a suitable air-breathing engine off-the-shelf (from China).
 
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The Mason’s system and magazine capabilities far outweigh those on the closest Indian type.
While the Elta radar is impressive, the Aegis system is simply unmatched except closest by the Type 45s of the Royal Navy.

In addition, the Mason carries some 64 Sm-2s along with its ESSMs.

The Barak gives a big advantage not as a singular ship but when fighting in coordination with other ships at sea.
Additionally, the Noor type C-802 derivatives and Silkworms are pretty simple sea skimmers compared to the missiles we currently have active and coming in.


While it is a deterrent to AShMs , the true threat of Barak is its land based version.

I like how a ship with an old PESA radar with a semi-active missile that is slower and weighs twice as much is better than a highly advanced more capable AESA with an active dual thrust missile that weighs as much as an air to air missile.
 
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@The Deterrent @HRK @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Oscar @Bilal Khan 777 @Arsalan @The Eagle

What are the chances of our Zarb, Herba and C-802, The Coastal, The Ship Fired and the Air-Launched missiles to be easily picked by Barak-8 as it is as capable as the above examples and the indians ships as far as i know do carry radar and IR decoys !
specifically talking about subsonic anti-ship missiles I am expecting the replication of Chinese Strategy in PN and saturation attack could be one of the options
 
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