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USA Loses In An Economics War And Is Now A Defeated and Conquered Nation

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"I think US will soon sell its companies like Microsoft,GE,Oracle,Boeing,Ford,GM Motor etc. "

lol seriously i can't believe how stupid that comment was. How can the U.S (the government) sell companies it doesnt own?.
 
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That comment has to be crowned as the king of stupid comments here on the forum.:big_boss:

Yup, that's what i said :P Obviously he knows nothing about economies or anything like that. He must think the government owns everything.
 
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It would be better that first read the article written by an American who has more understanding about economics then anyone on this forum, link provided in the post and then analyze the comment by the member, which was commented in regard to the analysis done by Thomas Heffner in the article.

Instead of sarcastic remarks or trying to show the comment to be King of Stupid Comments with much more stupid comments, review of the article and comments related to the analysis done by an American analyst would be more preferred showing some intellectualism rather then sarcastic attitude.
 
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It would be better that first read the article written by an American who has more understanding about economics then anyone on this forum, link provided in the post and then analyze the comment by the member, which was commented in regard to the analysis done by Thomas Heffner in the article.

Instead of sarcastic remarks or trying to show the comment to be King of Stupid Comments with much more stupid comments, review of the article and comments related to the analysis done by an American analyst would be more preferred showing some intellectualism rather then sarcastic attitude.

To be fair, i told him how his post was stupid and then made a sarcastic comment. It's the only way he will learn not to do these kinds of things.
 
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dont worry, guys....everything is going smoothly and on its natural course....including ourselves...a great rotation of universal law.....the problem is whether we can see thru those curtains or not.....
 
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CIT Group Inc., one of the nation's leading funders of small and medium-sized businesses, filed for the fifth largest bankruptcy by assets in U.S. history Sunday as part of a reorganization plan that has the support of an overwhelming majority of debtholders.

Now let’s count down the 10 largest US bankruptcies which are listed by CNN.




Lehman Brothers Holdings

Rank: 1
Date of bankruptcy filing: 09/15/08
Assets: $691 billion

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One of the biggest calamities of the current recession is the fall of the once highly regarded (and onetime fourth-largest) Wall Street investment firm, which was forced to file for bankruptcy protection last September, the largest corporate filing in the history of U.S. bankruptcy court. As a result, the company's North American investment banking and trading businesses and New York City headquarters were sold to British bank Barclays. Some of Lehman's U.S. businesses, including wealth management firm Neuberger-Berman, continue to operate as stand-alone entities under new ownership. And because of the company's global reach, its bankruptcy proceedings are complex, ongoing, and have resulted in the closing of 80 of the bank's smaller subsidiaries.



Washington Mutual


Rank: 2
Date of bankruptcy filing: 09/26/08
Assets: $327.9 billion




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Amid fears of insolvency, customers of Washington Mutual withdrew more than $16 billion of deposits over a 10-day period last fall, causing a government regulator to seize the holding company's banking assets and sell them to JPMorgan Chase for $1.9 billion. The following day WaMu filed for bankruptcy protection. What was once the nation's largest savings and loan and sixth-largest bank is now a shadow of its former self. The holding company currently is suing the FDIC for improper seizure and is seeking $13 billion in damages.



WorldCom


Rank: 3
Date of bankruptcy filing: 07/21/02
Assets: $103.9 billion



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Once the second-largest long-distance telecom in the U.S. after AT&T, WorldCom filed for bankruptcy protection following the discovery of an $11 billion accounting scandal. In 2003 the company re-dubbed itself MCI, (the name of one of its previous acquisitions), and then emerged from bankruptcy a year later. In 2005 MCI was acquired by Verizon Communications for $7.6 billion and former CEO Bernie Ebbers was sentenced to 25 years in prison after being convicted of securities fraud, conspiracy, and filing false documents. He is serving his term at Oakdale federal prison in Louisiana.



General Motors


Prospective Rank: 4
Date of bankruptcy filing: June 2009
Assets: $91 billion



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If the automotive giant, which for many years was the largest U.S.company and reigning king of the Fortune 500, files for bankruptcy, it will be the largest industrial company (and fourth-largest overall) to seek bankruptcy protection in the history of American business. The likely outcome of the reorganization will be the emergence of a new version of the company that holds onto Chevy, Cadillac, Buick and GMC. The remaining, poor-performing brands Pontiac, Saturn, Hummer, Saab and Opel might be held by separate, spun-off companies, sold to foreign manufacturers, or simply closed down. As part of the bailout agreement, the U.S. government will own nearly 72.5% of the new company, with the United Auto Workers owning 17.5%.



CIT


Rank: 5
Date of bankruptcy filing: 11/1/09
Assets: $71 billion



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Last fall's credit market implosion dealt CIT a blow it couldn't overcome.


Like many other financial institutions, the New York-based small business lender spent years on a debt-fueled growth binge. But when Lehman Brothers' failure drained the Wall Street liquidity pool, CIT was left high and dry.


The firm hastily won approval to become a bank holding company and took TARP funds, but regulators kept CIT Bank on a short leash. Starved of cash, the firm sought a second federal bailout in July but was rejected -- forcing it to take a $3 billion loan, later expanded to $4.5 billion, from big bondholders.


CIT later dropped its CEO and tried a big debt swap, but it was no use. The century-old company was sunk the day the easy money dried up.



Enron


Rank: 6
Date of bankruptcy filing: 12/02/01
Assets: $65.5 billion



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The collapse of a vast creative-accounting scandal destroyed the nation's largest energy, electricity and natural gas company in 2001. After a long and arduous case that was the most-watched bankruptcy proceeding in history, Enron emerged from bankruptcy protection three years later in 2004. Several of its top executives were later convicted of many counts of securities and accounting fraud. In addition to bringing down accounting firm Arthur Andersen, the Enron scandal is considered a landmark case because it inspired the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002, which set new standards and practices for public companies. In 2007, Enron changed its name to Enron Creditors Recovery Corp. with the intention of liquidating the company's remaining assets.



Conseco


Rank: 7
Date of bankruptcy filing: 12/17/02
Assets: $61 billion



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After years of poor executive leadership, the insurance and finance company accrued massive debt of more than $8 billion and was forced to file for bankruptcy in December 2002. It reorganized and reduced debt to $1.4 billion, emerging in less than a year after selling its finance business. Conseco now sells life insurance and supplemental health insurance to more than 4 million customers.


Because of a number of flaws in the settlement system, Conseco's restructuring resulted in an overhaul of the credit default swap market. Recently, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has called for further regulation, saying that over-the-counter derivatives should be traded on exchanges and that dealers be subject to federal oversight.



Chrysler


Rank: 8
Date of bankruptcy filing: 04/30/09
Assets: $39 billion


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When President Obama forced Chrysler into bankruptcy protection in April, it was the largest manufacturer in history to file Chapter 11, while competitor GM also scrambled to meet government demands for a bailout. As a result of the reorganization, the carmaker is forming an alliance with Italian automaker Fiat. The United Auto Workers will take control of the company via its retirement plan and the U.S. government is expected to inject a total of $12 billion into the company. Most of its debt will be written down by the debt holders. Two years ago, Chrysler was sold to private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management following nearly a decade of ownership by German carmaker Daimler-Benz. In 1979, Chrysler narrowly avoided bankruptcy when the U.S. Government agreed to guarantee $1.5 billion in loans, which were paid back in 1983.



Thornburg Mortgage


Rank: 9
Date of bankruptcy filing: 05/01/09
Assets: $36.5 billion



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The Santa Fe-based real estate investment trust and "jumbo" mortgage lender was hit by the subprime mortgage crisis in 2007 as its stock dwindled and the credit markets convulsed. To prevent a collapse, the company ceased accepting loan applications while it tried to raise more equity through a stock offering. The following year it restated financials and creditors agreed to back off while the company raised more capital, but on April 1 of this year, Thornburg announced that it would close up shop and enter Chapter11 bankruptcy to sell any remaining assets.



Pacific Gas and Electric Co.


Rank: 10
Date of bankruptcy filing: 04/06/01
Assets: $36 billion



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The deregulation of energy markets in California that resulted in the blackout crises in 2000 and 2001 also saw the bailout of Southern California Edison and the bankruptcy of PG&E, the major supplier of energy to homes and businesses in Northern California. Because of limited generating capacity and the high cost of producing electricity, the company was forced into Chapter 11 protection in April 2001. California governor Gray Davis used the state's treasury to bail out the utility, provoking a controversy that eventually contributed to his ouster. PG&E emerged from bankruptcy in April 2004 after returning $10.2 billion to creditors. Today it provides natural gas and electricity to 15 million customers.

WOW !!!
I think reading this list only stupid investor will invest in USA.

Investors have brain of elephant but heart of sparrow lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
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You obviously have a brain of a mouse because of this comment. "I think US will soon sell its companies like Microsoft,GE,Oracle,Boeing,Ford,GM Motor etc. "
 
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You obviously have a brain of a mouse because of this comment. "I think US will soon sell its companies like Microsoft,GE,Oracle,Boeing,Ford,GM Motor etc. "

Non sense,


GM is already bankrupt company , should not be included in list.

Problem is Americans wanted to sell their companies but no body is ready to buy them .:lol:

How long US government will support them to protect public money?????
 
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My 2 cents:
America buys all manufactured products from China & Japan
and Services from India

However one thing we all forget, though the outsource their production jobs or BPO jobs and other white collar jobs, they still earn back as all these companies are American ones and its shareholders earn the money back. They spend that on buying luxury in America ..imported from sweatshops in china /japan and India.
Agree there is a shrinking middle class in America , however there is definetly a rising Rich class in America.
America earns from selling technology, arms, and even the firefox/Internet expolorer and www. I mean every .com/.org/.net registrations are paying to America , The internet we use is sperad by a american company "flag"..if i am correct. If you really look America is everywhere, even when you make a call ..a fraction of a rupee goes as a service to America's satellite. and so on.
 
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My 2 cents:
America buys all manufactured products from China & Japan
and Services from India

However one thing we all forget, though the outsource their production jobs or BPO jobs and other white collar jobs, they still earn back as all these companies are American ones and its shareholders earn the money back. They spend that on buying luxury in America ..imported from sweatshops in china /japan and India.
Agree there is a shrinking middle class in America , however there is definetly a rising Rich class in America.
America earns from selling technology, arms, and even the firefox/Internet expolorer and www. I mean every .com/.org/.net registrations are paying to America , The internet we use is sperad by a american company "flag"..if i am correct. If you really look America is everywhere, even when you make a call ..a fraction of a rupee goes as a service to America's satellite. and so on.

Shrinking middle class is alarming sign for sinking economy as far as technology is concern Japan and europian nations are ahead of US in high tech ie nano technology.

Automobile and weapon industry is their main bread and butter badly effected by recent economic recession .

Satellite communication, electronic media, internet and power sector can only be servive in healthy economy (services,manufacturing and banking are key sectors ).

Oil and Gas sectors made US a super power which is now badly effected by high oil prices.US is world highest oil consumer.

Now you can understand why US is seriously concerned about middle east and central asian oil resources.
 
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Non sense,


GM is already bankrupt company , should not be included in list.

Problem is Americans wanted to sell their companies but no body is ready to buy them .:lol:

How long US government will support them to protect public money?????

lol you still don't understand how that comment is stupid. You said "i think the U.S (which means the government) will sell it's companies" The government doesnt own all of those companies listed and your stupid for thinking they do own them.
 
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lol you still don't understand how that comment is stupid. You said "i think the U.S (which means the government) will sell it's companies" The government doesnt own all of those companies listed and your stupid for thinking they do own them.

US government is trying bail out bankrupt companies but again it is public tax money , last option is to sell the companies asset by US government to repay effectees.

I hope now you got my point. :D
 
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