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US won't sit idle if India-China conflict breaks out

China needs to test it's military and a minor conflict with India will do. they'll get to test their logistics system and communication network.

we need to sit back and study this.
 
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I don't understand, why does India always need America or Russia to protect her? I thought India was a SUPA POWA since 2012? Notice the Indian media is starting to shiver, they are reassuring the masses that America will come to rescue them. :lol:.

Apart from Trump selling overpriced weapons and intel, I don't see any other 'help' bro.:lol:
 
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Yep they aren't going to still idle. They are gonna rock the dance floor, bhangara.
 
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I can foresee a Chinese-Indian agreement in which India would remove its troops while China hands them a political victory (i.e. spinning this agreement as a mutual endeavor rather than an unilateral Indian withdrawal). India's goal as of now is to save face while China's goal is to simply get Indian troops out of Doklam. A conflict is still far-fetched, despite the saber-rattling being undertaken by both nations' media, as both countries realize that biding time works to their favor in both military and economic terms.
 
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I can foresee a Chinese-Indian agreement in which India would remove its troops while China hands them a political victory (i.e. spinning this agreement as a mutual endeavor rather than an unilateral Indian withdrawal). India's goal as of now is to save face while China's goal is to simply get Indian troops out of Doklam. A conflict is still far-fetched, despite the saber-rattling being undertaken by both nations' media, as both countries realize that biding time works to their favor in both military and economic terms.


Dont be an a-hole. At no point did India say it refuses to withdraw . There is the 2012 agreement with China that existing “tri-junction boundary points” between the two countries and any third party would be “finalized in consultation with the concerned countries.” that means Bhutan. And it was Bhutan that called India when they saw the Chinese building a road on the Doklan Plateau which is part of Bhutan.
The solution was ALWAYS going to end in withdrawal to positions and conditions pertaining to before the Chinese road building grab.
 
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Dont be an a-hole. At no point did India say it refuses to withdraw . There is the 2012 agreement with China that existing “tri-junction boundary points” between the two countries and any third party would be “finalized in consultation with the concerned countries.” that means Bhutan. And it was Bhutan that called India when they saw the Chinese building a road on the Doklan Plateau which is part of Bhutan.
The solution was ALWAYS going to end in withdrawal to positions and conditions pertaining to before the Chinese road building grab.

Say what now? India's refusal to withdraw its 300 troops from the region is exactly what is drawing Chinese ire. Whether Bhutan actually requested Indian assistance or not is merely ancillary since China's perspective of India's maneuver is that of an unilateral decision to occupy a disputed region.
 
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India is not relying on any body....but have support from other countries is always good....even China is trying get support from other countries...but they got only 2 boys..n korea and pakistan
 
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I can foresee a Chinese-Indian agreement in which India would remove its troops while China hands them a political victory (i.e. spinning this agreement as a mutual endeavor rather than an unilateral Indian withdrawal). India's goal as of now is to save face while China's goal is to simply get Indian troops out of Doklam. A conflict is still far-fetched, despite the saber-rattling being undertaken by both nations' media, as both countries realize that biding time works to their favor in both military and economic terms.
I concur.
 
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Till now US is providing military aid to you for attacking Afghanistan using your land, and now you are happy that China is using Gwadar. So US and China are your papa. we dont rely on anyone.

Still you are going to US for meditating in Kashmir!

India's no to US mediation proves its claim on Kashmir is weak, says Pakistan
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-no-us-mediation-proves-claim-kashmir-pakistan/1/921600.html





India is occupying Chinese land called Doklam, and they are crying for that through media. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:





Stop cheereleading for China! :cheers:

Stop day dreaming and wake up.

It's not just about the area ,it's a small peace of land ,there is a bigger play going on .
You may claim it's China's land but truth is
China will not find supporters other than on PDF and Chinese sites,China knows it hence the response has been only threatening and no action on the ground, because China knows if things escalate it will stand isolated.

The end result will be China will agree to pull back troops and so will India after all it's not our land.

The bigger play here is that China is now looking to embarrass India. Bhutan has a claim on that land but it has been with China for centuries. So right now China is showing to the world that it had tried to solve this diplomatically. The thing is that China has two options for a win here. Either it forces India to withdraw unilaterally, or it kicks India out militarily. India has only one option, which is to convince China to mutually withdraw. But time is not India's side as it is sitting on Chinese territory. In all of this, one must remember that Chinese will also want political mileage.
 
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India is actually stuck in Doklam. It is in Chinese territory and time is ticking for it to find a face saving solution. Otherwise it will have to unilaterally withdraw as per Chinese demands, which will be a major embarrassment and which is the Chinese strategy at the moment.

Wrong on both counts. It is not Chinese but Bhutanese land.

1.Its not India but China who is stuck. Anything short of an outright victory will be a humiliation for China.

2. Since the territory is Bhutanese China technically cannot attack Indian territory without risking an all out war & international ramifications . As regards the success of an all out war , refer ser 1 above.

3. Doklam is in the SE part of the Chumbi valley . An area dominated by Sikkim from the West & Bhutan whose defence is India's responsibility from the East.

China is caught between a rock & a hard place.



Isn't that place a disputed territory between the Chinese and the Indians?

Read remarks above
 
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Stop day dreaming and wake up.



The bigger play here is that China is now looking to embarrass India. Bhutan has a claim on that land but it has been with China for centuries. So right now China is showing to the world that it had tried to solve this diplomatically. The thing is that China has two options for a win here. Either it forces India to withdraw unilaterally, or it kicks India out militarily. India has only one option, which is to convince China to mutually withdraw. But time is not India's side as it is sitting on Chinese territory. In all of this, one must remember that Chinese will also want political mileage.
Your analysis is spot on but Indian members will never admit this. Look at their reaction, sending 4 envoys to beg for a face saving retreat, rejected every single time, that clown Modi wishing Xi Happy Bday, banners put up by Indian soldiers tht ask for mutual withdrawal. Trust me, Doval is going to get rejected again. Basically, China showed the world they gave diplomacy a chance and India is still in Chinese territory. Basically they are desperate for a way out...:lol:
 
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Your analysis is spot on but Indian members will never admit this. Look at their reaction, sending 4 envoys to beg for a face saving retreat, rejected every single time, that clown Modi wishing Xi Happy Bday, banners put up by Indian soldiers tht ask for mutual withdrawal. Trust me, Doval is going to get rejected again. Basically, China showed the world they gave diplomacy a chance and India is still in Chinese territory. Basically they are desperate for a way out...:lol:

Logic has never been a strong point for Hans and you prove it yet again with your useless envoy rant.
 
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Logic has never been a strong point for Hans and you prove it yet again with your useless envoy rant.
How do you defend Bhutanese soil when you are asking to withdraw? Note that CHina is not asking to withdraw, they are asking you to withdraw. :rofl:
 
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